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To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: RE: Falcon compiler source code / Falcon architecture
Gordon, when you have time;
Does the ANTLR parser use the standard token stream if it's not lexing the
source?
Would there be a way to create a linked list token stream with what the lexer
multithreaded fashion as other Falcon compilation.
- Gordon
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From: Michael Schmalle [mailto:m...@teotigraphix.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 4:48 PM
To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: RE: Falcon compiler source code / Falcon architecture
Gordon, when you
To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org (mailto:flex-dev@incubator.apache.org)
Subject: RE: Falcon compiler source code / Falcon architecture
Does the ANTLR parser use the standard token stream if it's not lexing the
source?
For AS, where we use JFlex to do the lexing (for better performance), we
2012/1/19 Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com:
I was in the Falcon code in November. It was way easier to figure out how
to make changes than with MXMLC. Even if it is not documented, I think it
will be easier to make progress that with the Falcon code base.
I agree, that sounds like it would be much
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 6:48 PM, Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com wrote:
For example, an MXML tag resulted in a UIComponentDescriptor for MX
components and a tree of functions for Spark components. The plan was to
have an MXML tag result in an entry in an Array that consisted of the class
To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: RE: Falcon compiler source code / Falcon architecture
Gordon this is about the best news we could get.
It's great to see this structure! I can't wait.
What parts are using ANTLR grammar?
Thanks,
Mike
Quoting Gordon Smith gosm...@adobe.com:
Until we
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 12:59 AM, David Arno da...@davidarno.org wrote:
Should we just ignore Falcon and instead consider a major overhaul of
mxmlc,
or even a completely new compiler?
It sounds like, at best, we might be able to follow Falcon development
updates (and thanks in advance to Alex
years ago in their mailing list and it's
still open.
Best regards,
Andrew
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From: Scott Delamater
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 3:36 PM
To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Falcon compiler source code / Falcon architecture
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 12:59
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To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org; peter.e...@gmail.com; rajubit...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Falcon compiler source code / Falcon architecture
On 1/17/12 4:38 PM, Gordon Smith gosm...@adobe.com wrote:
Falcon can compile pure-AS apps that aren't built with the Flex
framework so I don't
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Subject: RE: Falcon compiler source code / Falcon architecture
From: Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com]
Sent: 18 January 2012 00:08
1) Falcon is intended to serve not only as the compiler for FB, but as
the code-model service for FB's code intelligence.
2) The version
On 1/17/12 11:59 PM, David Arno da...@davidarno.org wrote:
The more I read about Falcon, the more concerned I become about it. I don't
like the idea that we will have to wait six months for a half-working
compiler, presumably with no APIs, documentation etc provided beforehand.
There is
, 2012 1:29 PM
To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Falcon compiler source code / Falcon architecture
The goal is to donate Falcon before it is done, but it won't be before we want
to cut some release from our Flex podling. Yes, Falcon looks like it could
make your build script run twice
On 1/17/12 1:01 PM, Michael A. Labriola labri...@digitalprimates.net
wrote:
Alex any movement on this?
My hope is still that Adobe will donate this thing and finish development in
the open. It would send a strong commitment to Adobe wanting to work with the
community.
I don't have any
Okay, obviously still campaigning for open development on this.
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From: Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 4:08 PM
To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Falcon compiler source code / Falcon architecture
On 1/17/12 1:01 PM
Wow, the summer, that's still quite a while away. That is, if you get the
proposal approved.
Good luck with that Alex, until that time we'll all be reading up on
compiler theory :)
Okay, obviously still campaigning for open development on this.
I don't have any official timeline for Falcon at
Wow, the summer, that's still quite a while away.
Sure, but given the initial timeline that was given at the Flex Summit
having something by summer would be a huge win IMHO.
In the worst case and community participation doesn't help speed up getting
a stable release of Falcon out, it still
I agree, sorry if I sounded impatient :) And I understand the legal battles
that Alex et al have to wage
to get the code out there earlier than the original timeline.
Wow, the summer, that's still quite a while away.
Sure, but given the initial timeline that was given at the Flex Summit
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 4:35 PM, Roland Zwaga rol...@stackandheap.comwrote:
I agree, sorry if I sounded impatient :) And I understand the legal battles
that Alex et al have to wage
to get the code out there earlier than the original timeline.
Soon can't be soon enough in my book. The earlier
While we're on the subject, I learned a few things in my meetings today that
may not have occurred to folks wanting to change the compiler and language.
1) Falcon is intended to serve not only as the compiler for FB, but as the
code-model service for FB's code intelligence.
2) The version of FB
The version of FB that integrates Falcon will not be designed to use a
different version of Falcon for different versions of the SDK. This is
different than today, where FB uses the MXMLC from the SDK version for your
project.
This has some interesting implications. One is that we can't
On 1/17/12 4:18 PM, peter.e...@gmail.com peter.e...@gmail.com wrote:
Am I reading it right that this means FB is pretty much useless as an IDE
if Falcon isn't aligned with Apache Flex SDK releases?
It depends on what you want to change. Our goal for Falcon and the SDK back
before the
On 1/17/12 4:38 PM, Gordon Smith gosm...@adobe.com wrote:
Falcon can compile pure-AS apps that aren't built with the Flex framework so I
don't think it makes sense as a subproject of Flex.
- Gordon Smith, Adobe
If Falcon is going to have a distinct community then yes, it should have its
From: Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com]
Sent: 18 January 2012 00:08
1) Falcon is intended to serve not only as the compiler for FB,
but as the code-model service for FB's code intelligence.
2) The version of FB that integrates Falcon will not be designed
to use a different version of
Is there any documentation available explaining the differences
between Falcon and the current version of the compiler? Or do you have
a developer wiki for Falcon which might be shared with us, even if we
don't have access to the source code, yet.
Does the Falcon team already have an
+1
Wouldn't it be important if the community had access to the Falcon source at a
very early stage?
There are some great ideas here around creating an API for the compiler to
support formatting and documentation tools for example. Also I'd like to
experiment with adding custom generics
Quoting David Arno da...@davidarno.org:
+1
Wouldn't it be important if the community had access to the Falcon
source at a very early stage?
There are some great ideas here around creating an API for the
compiler to support formatting and documentation tools for example.
Also I'd like
I see this as a very important step in getting Apache Flex into the
melting pot viewed fairly along side other competing technologies. I
have had a few blog posts about the transformation of Flex and really,
this is exactly where it is going to happen on the low level.
Mike
+1
The compiler IS the Flex SDK and to empower developers to get involved
would be a huge new driving force for the architecture built to use it.
I don't agree with this. I can use the compiler to generate code for a
whole new framework if I want to.
Wouldn't it be important if the community had
Quoting Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com:
The compiler IS the Flex SDK and to empower developers to get involved
would be a huge new driving force for the architecture built to use it.
I don't agree with this. I can use the compiler to generate code for a
whole new framework if I want to.
--
The goal is to donate Falcon before it is done, but it won't be before we
want to cut some release from our Flex podling. Yes, Falcon looks like it
could make your build script run twice as fast, but it won't be the 10x the
early prototypes showed for incremental compiles from the tool.
One the
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