and this is not an
official recommendation of the Apache Flex project.
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On 1/19/12 4:54 PM, Jonathan Campos jonbcam...@gmail.com wrote:
As usual, I agree with Ryan. Confluence.
I would prefer Confluence as long as it is secure. Confluence 3.4 is full
of holes.
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information in it. Would it be
sufficient to simply remove some of that information so it only has
information at method entry points?
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On 1/20/12 9:29 AM, Cosma Colanicchia cosma...@gmail.com wrote:
I don't like very much the current implementation because, AFAIK, a
module has to be a visual element on the stage..
That's not really true. ModuleLoader effectively requires that, but not
ModuleManager.
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be
able to do much Flex work during that time.
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to let you folks get started as well.
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On 1/20/12 4:09 PM, Omar Gonzalez omarg.develo...@gmail.com wrote:
It would also be nice to name it in line with CSS and set the cursor to
pointer when you want the hand cursor. Thoughts on that?
Sorry, but I did not understand this.
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{
cursor: pointer;
}
-omar
I'm ok with that, but I will say that, being unfamiliar with this style
property, I would never have guessed that a 'pointer' is a hand instead of
an arrow.
Would you also allow someone to specify a custom cursor there?
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not a committer).
We only tested the instructions in the README. Nothing else is expected to
work at this time.
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to not be something that EVERY person
using Adobe Flex can replace. I certainly wouldn't want to hold up releases
of everything else while we work out the legal and business kinks on
automation.
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on the road to becoming a committer.
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do.
I'm fine with gambling on Adobe's version future. I really don't see
anything significant coming out of Adobe related to Flex.
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migrated. I think you mentioned something about going to China for a couple of
weeks soon is this likely to delay the initial drop/JIRA migration?
Thanks,
Justin
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as required.
You may submit patches once we get the issues migrated, which should
hopefully be this week, but they won't be acted on until we get our first
parity release.
I agree we have a momentum issue as legal issues continue to delay us.
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don't see Adobe doing a 4.7 and the
probability of 4.8 is even more remote.
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, but we could implement
a clone API across all UIComponents. I think you your need for one is
greatly reduced if you are using MV or MVC.
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I'm opening a whole new can
of worms we shouldn't even think about at this point?
The can has been opened and the worms are crawling over Campos' desk :-).
There will be a non-zero but small chance of a collision. But if everyone
is willing to take that chance then 4.7 is fine with me.
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other components, etc.
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move beyond
that, we are on our own.
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, on my whiteboard, if I ever get done with doing legal
clearance, I will start over, abandon backward compatibility, and use more
composition, and see what happens.
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?
JIRA is open. I'm hoping to migrate the old bugs this week, and it might
make migration harder if there is lots of new stuff in Apache JIRA. So I'm
asking folks to be patient a little longer.
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the issue here is whether or not Adobe will donate these two
things. It is a matter of logistics.
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lies in selecting high-traffic sub-objects and caching
their references (or not making them sub-objects at all and baking in their
behaviors). As I keep saying, no one rule can be universally applied.
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inheritance.
Again, most of this has been discussed in prior threads.
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without aiming.
IMHO, Apache is more about what actually happens, not so much about promises
and visions and missions. The missions can get changed, forked, killed,
whatever. It all depends on who actually gets something done.
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to the name of the method, so I'm pretty sure it has to be
at least 8 bytes, but when I asked about it a while back, they decided it
couldn't be less than 32 bytes (yes, bytes not bits). Apparently there is
other stuff that needs to be tracked as well.
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be
Adobe Flex 4.6 so it might be changed yet again). So, starting with 4.8
might in fact be safer.
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in the company, etc.
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On 1/23/12 12:42 PM, Martin Heidegger m...@leichtgewicht.at wrote:
On 24/01/2012 05:03, Alex Harui wrote:
Yes, there can be separate branches and release.
Then that should be mentioned in the versioning thread, shouldn't it?
It has been mentioned in past versioning threads.
IMHO
Lists.
Imagine all the fun we could have with GPU powred list item renderers :)
It was discussed already. Worth investigating, the biggest problem is that
I do not think there is a good accessibility story.
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would like to turn
the traditional after hours Meet the Flex Team into Meet the Apache Flex
Team, but that hasn't been decided yet.
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on all of these issues. It is simply a
matter of time. Please be patient.
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out how to do post-process
optimization of the SWF that can set up tail-call optimizations and reduce
the interstitial cost.
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Apache Flex X (for
10), new applications will use it and old applications can be ported (but
not required).
That is the plan. I hope to 'start over' on my whiteboard.
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in the HTML/JS/CSS stack?
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the problem. There's no
good way to 'train' folks. You can put it on a wiki or send it every day,
but if folks don't read it, it won't help. In fact, there was a request for
folks to stop top-posting, and folks still do (including you ;-))
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discussed. I don't know how easy it is to search the mail
archives, but please find a way to do so.
Mobile components don't always have code for rollover and do have code for
touch.
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. The question for me is what
penalty, if any, we want to impose on the way we write our code or the output
SWF for the low-probability but high-value of debugging a problem in the wild.
Alex Harui
Flex SDK Developer
Adobe Systems Inc.
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breaking backward
compatibility. In my whiteboard, I will explore a simpler top-down layout that
is more HTML-like.
Alex Harui
Flex SDK Developer
Adobe Systems Inc.
Blog: http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
ratio is not even close to 1:1). If you can figure out how Adobe
can make money per SWF viewer, let me know.
Yes, LCDS was sold differently, but the free options (SOAP, REST) were
sufficient enough and/or too entrenched.
Alex Harui
Flex SDK Developer
Adobe Systems Inc.
Blog: http
. Read
the apache docs on the process.
Alex Harui
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. Sorry if I missed them.
Haykel
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-flex-dev/201201.mbox/%3c1980408581.7078.1325728328032.JavaMail.root@MailServer%3e
Alex Harui
Flex SDK Developer
Adobe Systems Inc.
Blog: http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
the same model.
The 'disconnect' was in the execution of the announcement of these changes, as
has been discussed.
Alex Harui
Flex SDK Developer
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of a concern as performance.
Probably true, but I hear lots of complaints about folks hitting some limit the
Apple Store approvers don't like.
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we are trying to solve and using this VM.
I haven't given up either. It may not require AOP, or even tail-call
optimizations, you mainly have to design to only run code when you need it, and
then just run less code.
Alex Harui
Flex SDK Developer
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Blog: http://blogs.adobe.com
as a person who
submits good patches, you can get nominated to be a committer yourself and then
you can just check in what you want (although every commit is reviewed and can
be vetoed by other committers).
Alex Harui
Flex SDK Developer
Adobe Systems Inc.
Blog: http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
Carol can provide more detail, but I believe our build script downloads certain
binaries from the vendor's site.
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-Original Message-
From: Omar Gonzalez [mailto:omarg.develo...@gmail.com]
Sent
thinking that a Flex-based JIRA client
would be a great test-bed for my whiteboard next-gen framework.
Alex Harui
Flex SDK Developer
Adobe Systems Inc.
Blog: http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
the component as a patch. I guess you would
file a New Feature issue first (Flex needs a component that does XXX) and
then submit the patch.
Alex Harui
Flex SDK Developer
Adobe Systems Inc.
Blog: http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
way. I am looking at the following files.
Any help would be appreciated.
4.6.0 -frameworks.libs.air.airglobal.swc
airglobal.library.flash.text.SoftKeyboardType
Is this an issue with your attempt to build with the source in the Apache
Subversion?
Alex Harui
Flex SDK Developer
Adobe Systems
themes.
Alex Harui
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-Original Message-
From: James Roland Cabresos [mailto:j.cabre...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 4:16 PM
To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org; f...@rduartes.net
Subject: Re: Apache Flex suggestion - dumping SWF support in favor of
HTML5 - listen to Steve
Just a suggestion,
that we could use as
the
basis for generating such a stub SWC too, rather than generating it by
hand.
David.
What problem are we trying to solve? Surely a JAVA project wouldn't check in
stubs for a third-party JAR just to save on a download?
Alex Harui
Flex SDK Developer
Adobe Systems Inc
with the November
announcements. The work was never completed, and was left waiting on some
changes from Sonatype.
I don't know anything about Maven, but it sounds like Conrad's recipe does not
involve Sonatype, so if it works, it should be the starting point for this
project.
Alex Harui
Flex
incubation could run more smoothly for
you?
Incubation has been working well. Our mentors are great.
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and wait forever. Now you can change the code you want
to change. No more waiting and wishing, just doing.
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logos needs to be replaced
and the baseline comparision images re-made. It is just going to take a
while.
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the best of what we have now. And I am still
convinced that what we have now is capable of really impressive stuff.
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printing bug where the player will try to
generate a 600DPI bitmap of the page, run out of spooling space and corrupt
the print job. Should have been alleviated a bit in 10.3.
Otherwise, the Flex print components have issues, but player printing is
good enough for digital yearbooks.
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is hard, and trying to synchronize it with what I hope will be
tons of changes going forward will be very difficult.
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mile of optimization better than we do now so
we can have some killer showcase apps out there that folks can actually
touch and use.
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everywhere so newbies have fewer things to
learn to be successful with Flex.
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be using Singleton instead.
And then there is the whole debate about Singletons in general...
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it.
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, but makes it possible for advanced users to use
it on the edges and in their code. I would argue the same for concurrency
if we ever get to leverage it.
But only time will tell...
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whiteboard re-write, the Singletons will probably be defined in some
manifest, will only register just before first use, and there will be an
event to give you a definite chance to register replacements.
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. I
haven't found any side-effects from those tags I changed, but it is still
possible that Apache Infra knows of some issue from doing that and will
reject this approach.
I've updated the JIRA issue and have my fingers crossed it will work.
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On 2/8/12 1:50 AM, David Arno da...@davidarno.org wrote:
From: Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com]
Sent: 08 February 2012 03:10
... And then there are some old singletons like EffectManager that still
use
static methods, which should be using Singleton instead
of mixins that get run before the SystemManager
registers the initial set of singletons.
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to other files.
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My understanding is we should not check in swcs
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-Original message-
From: Martin Heidegger m...@leichtgewicht.at
To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
Sent: Mon, Feb 13, 2012 11:20:55 GMT+00:00
Subject: Re: [DECISION] Unit
Carol, I assume you tested the import. How long did it take? Could we break
it up over several evenings?
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From: Carol Frampton cfram...@adobe.com
To: David Arno da...@davidarno.org, flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
Lots of legal wrangling at Adobe.
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-Original message-
From: Justin Mclean jus...@classsoftware.com
To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
Sent: Tue, Feb 14, 2012 22:48:20 GMT+00:00
Subject: Re: [jira] [Commented] (FLEX-15)
Plan configurations.
At one point, there was a discussion with the FlexUnit folks of taking some
aspects of Mustella and enhancing FlexUnit to support things like Marshall
Plan. It might be worth looking into that again.
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is trying to accomplish.
Yes the Marshall Plan is not about units, but I assume there is some vision
for how to do integration testing or functional testing. I thought
FlexUnit had the ability to do more than just unit tests. Or do you think
we can ship a valid release just by unit tests?
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. As Mike said, DV is tied to a
framework version. DCD is highly inefficient in most cases because it is
trying to handle corner cases in a single implementation.
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the SDK classes
vary in their behavior on different Operating Systems?
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com wrote:
On 2/17/12 9:59 AM, Michael A. Labriola labri...@digitalprimates.net
wrote:
FlexUnit won't be able to support that as nothing about
somewhere. They are checked
in as source (I believe) not as binaries into Adobe's repo, so we can't source
them from there.
Also, this is hopefully a temporary situation. We hope to have the compiler
building from source as part of the build script soon.
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and testing.
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.
More on that when we get closer to contributing Falcon.
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. There are
plans for an API for manipulating the array. It turned out to be much
faster to read the array than a data structure.
But it is just a stake in the ground and can certainly be changed.
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February and we're still working on it.
I'm not trying to tease, just take a few seconds to get some more
information out there, then get back to the other priorities. I wish I had
more time, but I don't.
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than MXMLC so altering its
behavior should be much more straightforward.
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in the first place.
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the need for RSLs.
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the
transition. It is pretty interesting, but requires strategizing how you
design the initial states of the application.
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to have a discussion about how we get a nightly build set up and
if we build the framework when changes are submitted to SVN?
I think we have agreement on continuous integration, it is just a matter of
deciding what technology to use and getting it done.
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changes you
require right into the Flex framework. This makes RSLs actually usable again.
I'm not sure I understood this.
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you want. It will never be as secure as the current mechanism,
but it might be good enough. However, I still want to see the need for
startup time RSLs to go away.
I'm not sure how you would use SSL. Via a socket? Or https? There might be
browser limitations on it.
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to see.
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the create it, but you can design a sequence of initial states
to get there.
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On 2/21/12 12:29 PM, Michel Boudreau michelboudr...@gmail.com wrote:
That's awesome. Quick question though, if I fork it, can I do pull
requests and will they be used? Or should I do patches and submit to the
commit mailing list?
Please submit patches via JIRA
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On 2/21/12 12:54 PM, Michel Boudreau michelboudr...@gmail.com wrote:
And I would assume this would still be in patch form? or would that be
pull requests through JIRA?
M
Please submit patches as attachments to JIRA issues.
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player.
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On 2/22/12 7:18 AM, Martin Heidegger m...@leichtgewicht.at wrote:
Also another thing is that
if(a == null) is slower than if(a) at least compiled with mxmlc.
Did you try if(a === null)
IIRC, there are lots of things going on when you use ==.
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on Enterprise development support. Apache Flex
will.
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was available on the Adobe site for months, but it took us a month and
a half to get this far. I would expect the same for Falcon. But we'll see.
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in there, but is not being worked on at all. And I
cannot recommend they take the time to start having these discussions given
their tight schedule.
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I get through donating the framework and then 3.x, I will look into
ways to donate Falcon earlier.
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control what revisions get integrated into the parity branch.
If someone else familiar with SVN can confirm, then that would be my
recommendation.
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