Re: [Flightgear-devel] Possible source for usable code

2003-01-17 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Thu, 16 Jan 2003 19:31:53 -0600, Mike Bonar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thursday 16 January 2003 09:41, Curtis L. Olson wrote: Arnt Karlsen writes: On Thu, 16 Jan 2003 09:16:36 -0600, Curtis L. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL

re: [Flightgear-devel] scripting code

2003-01-17 Thread David Megginson
Jim Wilson writes: Look for an include file plib/psl.h. If it's not there, then plib 1.6 didn't include PSL (and I will #ifdef it out). Yes, that's the problem. It isn't there. OK, I'll fix it now. Thanks, David -- David Megginson, [EMAIL PROTECTED],

re: [Flightgear-devel] scripting code

2003-01-17 Thread David Megginson
Jim Wilson writes: Actually there is another problem. The makefile is being generated with plibpsl included, which doesn't exist in 1.6. Thanks -- I'll try to fix that as well. All the best, David -- David Megginson, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.megginson.com/

[Flightgear-devel] plib 1.6 problems fixed (?)

2003-01-17 Thread David Megginson
I've made all PSL support in FlightGear conditional now, so there should be no more build problems with the official plib 1.6 release. Could someone using plib 1.6 do a CVS update and rebuild to confirm? You'll need to do sh autogen.sh ./configure (I think they happen automatically, but it

[Flightgear-devel] Multitexture investigation in flightgear

2003-01-17 Thread Roman Grigoriev
Hi guys! I made a progress in creating lightlobes I insert multitexture support in flightgear I got no framerate drop using 2 textures on geforce3 so now I have a question there are several techniques to calculate lightmaps dymanic position 1) simple calculating in CPU ( no special card required)

[Flightgear-devel] ANT

2003-01-17 Thread Mike Bonar
Any thought to using ANT as part of the build process? http://jakarta.apache.org/ant/index.html Michael Bonar I ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Build Problem with MSVC 6.0

2003-01-17 Thread David Luff
Jonathan, I've got behind reading my mail from this list, and I've only just read this mail from a while ago about this and the later error you had in ATCVoice.cxx. I've commited Norman's fixes for both files to the cvs, so if you could do a clean checkout of the ATC subdirectory and check I

[Flightgear-devel] forwarded message from Henti Smith

2003-01-17 Thread Curtis L. Olson
I'm not looking for or expecting a concensus on this, but I'd be interested in people's thoughts relative to the attached message. This raises a number of difficult issues, and I'd be even more interested in people's thoughts on the larger issues. ---BeginMessage--- Good day. My name is Henti

Re: [Flightgear-devel] forwarded message from Henti Smith

2003-01-17 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Fri, 17 Jan 2003 11:20:02 -0600 Curtis L. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not looking for or expecting a concensus on this, but I'd be My quick reply (I'm almost off to lunch) given with no thought whatsoever (and without carefully reading all the fine print) is to mention that JSBSim

Re: [Flightgear-devel] forwarded message from Henti Smith

2003-01-17 Thread David Luff
Are there any elevation data sets out there for which full re-distribution rights can be bought for a fairly modest sum of money? I'm pretty sure someone might have mentioned the Japanese data as falling into this catorgory at some point. Anyway, its a thought, even if possibly of only the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] plib 1.6 problems fixed (?)

2003-01-17 Thread Major A
I've made all PSL support in FlightGear conditional now, so there should be no more build problems with the official plib 1.6 release. Could someone using plib 1.6 do a CVS update and rebuild to confirm? I still get this: g++-2.95 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../../src/Include -I../..

re: [Flightgear-devel] ANT

2003-01-17 Thread David Megginson
Mike Bonar writes: Any thought to using ANT as part of the build process? http://jakarta.apache.org/ant/index.html I love ant, but I don't want to require a JVM just to build FlightGear. All the best, David -- David Megginson, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.megginson.com/

[Flightgear-devel] Verbose compiler messages

2003-01-17 Thread David Luff
Ever since upgrading from automake-1.4 to 1.5, the messages shown on screen while compiling Flightgear have got far more verbose, with stuff about tmpfiles and deps being output, and this is even worse with automake-1.7 that comes with the latest Cygwin. Is there any way of getting rid of all the

re: [Flightgear-devel] forwarded message from Henti Smith

2003-01-17 Thread David Megginson
Curtis L. Olson writes: I'm not looking for or expecting a concensus on this, but I'd be interested in people's thoughts relative to the attached message. This raises a number of difficult issues, and I'd be even more interested in people's thoughts on the larger issues. We don't really

[Flightgear-devel] GIS highway robbery

2003-01-17 Thread David Megginson
David Luff writes: Are there any elevation data sets out there for which full re-distribution rights can be bought for a fairly modest sum of money? I'm pretty sure someone might have mentioned the Japanese data as falling into this catorgory at some point. I checked the Canadian data,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] plib 1.6 problems fixed (?)

2003-01-17 Thread David Megginson
Major A writes: I still get this: g++-2.95 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../../src/Include -I../.. -I../../src -I/usr/local/SimGear/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -DPKGLIBDIR=\/usr/local/FlightGear/lib/FlightGear\ -g -O2 -c -o location.o `test -f location.cxx || echo './'`location.cxx

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIS highway robbery

2003-01-17 Thread David Luff
On 1/17/03 at 1:21 PM David Megginson wrote: I checked the Canadian data, thinking that I might be willing to invest a hundred or two for the sake of having good Canadian GIS data online. For nationwide elevation and general GIS vector data, my government wants CAD 1M (USD 650K) for a closed

re: [Flightgear-devel] forwarded message from Henti Smith

2003-01-17 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Curt wrote: Of course if everyone is happy with any money going straight into Curt's big screen TV fund, that would be a *lot* simpler in the long run. :-) David Megginson writes: Why do you need a TV when you have a computer with a text editor and a C++ compiler? Jeesh. This is to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Verbose compiler messages

2003-01-17 Thread Curtis L. Olson
David Luff writes: Ever since upgrading from automake-1.4 to 1.5, the messages shown on screen while compiling Flightgear have got far more verbose, with stuff about tmpfiles and deps being output, and this is even worse with automake-1.7 that comes with the latest Cygwin. Is there any way of

re: [Flightgear-devel] forwarded message from Henti Smith

2003-01-17 Thread David Megginson
Curtis L. Olson writes: This is to distract the 2 year old so that I have a bit of time to use the text editor computer and C++ compiler. So really it's a legitimate FlightGear need. :-) Two year olds are usually happy watching the clothes drier spin round and round. I still suspect

Re: [Flightgear-devel] forwarded message from Henti Smith

2003-01-17 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Fri, 17 Jan 2003 15:07:54 -0500 David Megginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Two year olds are usually happy watching the clothes drier spin round and round. I still suspect some involvement from the father here. Instead of 1 two-year old, try 2 one-year olds. I've gotten fairly good at

Re: [Flightgear-devel] forwarded message from Henti Smith

2003-01-17 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 17 Jan 2003 13:26:20 -0600, Curtis L. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Curt wrote: Of course if everyone is happy with any money going straight into Curt's big screen TV fund, that would be a *lot* simpler in the long run. :-) David Megginson

Re: [Flightgear-devel] forwarded message from Henti Smith

2003-01-17 Thread John Check
On Friday 17 January 2003 12:31 pm, Jon S Berndt wrote: On Fri, 17 Jan 2003 11:20:02 -0600 Curtis L. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not looking for or expecting a concensus on this, but I'd be My quick reply (I'm almost off to lunch) given with no thought whatsoever (and without

Re: [Flightgear-devel] forwarded message from Henti Smith

2003-01-17 Thread John Check
On Friday 17 January 2003 3:07 pm, David Megginson wrote: Curtis L. Olson writes: This is to distract the 2 year old so that I have a bit of time to use the text editor computer and C++ compiler. So really it's a legitimate FlightGear need. :-) Two year olds are usually happy

Re: [Flightgear-devel] forwarded message from Henti Smith

2003-01-17 Thread James A. Treacy
On Fri, Jan 17, 2003 at 02:17:37PM -0600, Jon S Berndt wrote: Instead of 1 two-year old, try 2 one-year olds. I've gotten fairly good at programming in 4 minute chunks. That's about how long my twins will stay occupied inside a circle of toys, get bored, then crawl twenty feet to my

Re: [Flightgear-devel] forwarded message from Henti Smith

2003-01-17 Thread Curtis L. Olson
James A. Treacy writes: Instead of 2 one-year olds, try two 7 week olds. I wish I could get 4 minutes to do some programming. Of course, I guess you already went through that stage to get where you are. :) At least you get to sleep through the night. Ok, I have to relate one story here.

re: [Flightgear-devel] forwarded message from Henti Smith

2003-01-17 Thread Curtis L. Olson
David Megginson writes: Two year olds are usually happy watching the clothes drier spin round and round. I still suspect some involvement from the father here. The only thing we've found that have entertained her longer than 4 minutes is lipstick, permanent markers, and the dog's water dish.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] forwarded message from Henti Smith

2003-01-17 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Fri, 17 Jan 2003 15:30:45 -0500 James A. Treacy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Instead of 2 one-year olds, try two 7 week olds. I wish I could get 4 minutes to do some programming. Of course, I guess you already went through that stage to get where you are. :) At least you get to sleep through

Re: [Flightgear-devel] forwarded message from Henti Smith

2003-01-17 Thread David Megginson
John Check writes: You can have the TV, but you can't watch anything but Barney I thought the reason the U.S. still has capital punishment was to spare people that. All the best, David -- David Megginson, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.megginson.com/

Re: [Flightgear-devel] plib 1.6 problems fixed (?) -- Radeon 8500 working now

2003-01-17 Thread Major A
Thanks for catching that. I've patched up src/Main/Makefile.am, and would be grateful if you could do a cvs update and make. There's no need to rebuild from scratch. It now works fine, thanks a lot! I like the terminal building at KSFO... Also, now that I give the mem=nopentium option to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] forwarded message from Henti Smith

2003-01-17 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Fri, 17 Jan 2003 16:03:17 -0500 David Megginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Check writes: You can have the TV, but you can't watch anything but Barney I thought the reason the U.S. still has capital punishment was to spare people that. Actually, watching Barney *is* a form of capital

Re: [Flightgear-devel] forwarded message from Henti Smith

2003-01-17 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Fri, 17 Jan 2003 14:46:19 -0600 Curtis L. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: she's clearly hurt. Of course she was just fine and faking it to get our attention, but if this is an early sign of the cleverness to come, I think we are in big trouble ... :-) Now I've had to spend the whole day

[Flightgear-devel] KSFO International Terminal

2003-01-17 Thread David Megginson
Major A writes: It now works fine, thanks a lot! I like the terminal building at KSFO... You get the prize for being the first to notice -- congrats (I sneaked it into the base package CVS fairly quietly). It's just a roughing-in of the new International Terminal, but I'll try to fill in

Re: [Flightgear-devel] forwarded message from Henti Smith

2003-01-17 Thread David Megginson
Jon S Berndt writes: Child: Mommy! Daddy: She's not here. Child: Daddy! Mommy: He's not here, either. Child: !? ... ? ... ... snore 20 years and $50,000 later: Therapist: So why do you think you have this pathological fear of abandonment? All the best, David -- David

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Scud running

2003-01-17 Thread Major A
Knowing the route helps. Before starting I did a test run in the clear and found you could go back to the bridge (easy landmark) and head SW from there. Probably making it through the notch. I got just about all the way through and got hungup in a loop at a tile change (something to do

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ANT

2003-01-17 Thread Mike Bonar
Good point. Nuf said. Mike On Friday 17 January 2003 12:15, David Megginson wrote: Mike Bonar writes: Any thought to using ANT as part of the build process? http://jakarta.apache.org/ant/index.html I love ant, but I don't want to require a JVM just to build FlightGear. All

Re: [Flightgear-devel] KSFO International Terminal

2003-01-17 Thread Bernie Bright
On Fri, 17 Jan 2003 16:25:10 -0500 David Megginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Major A writes: It now works fine, thanks a lot! I like the terminal building at KSFO... You get the prize for being the first to notice -- congrats (I sneaked it into the base package CVS fairly quietly).

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIS highway robbery

2003-01-17 Thread Mike Bonar
On Friday 17 January 2003 12:21, David Megginson wrote: David Luff writes: Are there any elevation data sets out there for which full re-distribution rights can be bought for a fairly modest sum of money? I'm pretty sure someone might have mentioned the Japanese data as falling

Re: [Flightgear-devel] forwarded message from Henti Smith

2003-01-17 Thread Curtis L. Olson
David Megginson writes: Jon S Berndt writes: Child: Mommy! Daddy: She's not here. Child: Daddy! Mommy: He's not here, either. Child: !? ... ? ... ... snore 20 years and $50,000 later: Therapist: So why do you think you have this pathological fear of abandonment?

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Scud running

2003-01-17 Thread David Megginson
Major A writes: This is a really good one, David -- I think I would end up with s*** in my pants if I had to do this for real! Dead people don't care if they have clean underwear, despite all the warnings your mother gave you as a kid. I think it's a generational thing -- in my so-far

Re: [Flightgear-devel] KSFO International Terminal

2003-01-17 Thread David Megginson
Bernie Bright writes: If you are interested I have an overhead shot of KSFO. You can't see taxiway signs or windsocks but it does show the relative positioning of the terminal, gates, hangars and other ancillary buildings. Yes, please. I can get the positioning from the NOAA airport

Re: [Flightgear-devel] forwarded message from Henti Smith

2003-01-17 Thread Tony Peden
On Fri, 2003-01-17 at 12:46, Curtis L. Olson wrote: James A. Treacy writes: Instead of 2 one-year olds, try two 7 week olds. I wish I could get 4 minutes to do some programming. Of course, I guess you already went through that stage to get where you are. :) At least you get to sleep

RE: [Flightgear-devel] KSFO International Terminal

2003-01-17 Thread Michael Basler
David, as an interim report, the guy with the FS98 add-on KSFO scenery did not answer until now (but mail did not bounce either). I'll stay tuned, but doubt he will... it's just been so long ago and he did never provide upgrades for FS2000/2 . I fear you'll have to find pictures and stuff

Re: [Flightgear-devel] KSFO International Terminal

2003-01-17 Thread Major A
David, the link you provided might be of help here: http://edj.net/cgi-bin/echoplate.pl?SouthWest/SFO_.GIF It's only 2D, but it gives you a good idea where things are. Andras === Major Andras e-mail: [EMAIL

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Possible source for usable code

2003-01-17 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 17 Jan 2003 16:11:38 -0600, Mike Bonar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Friday 17 January 2003 05:06, Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Thu, 16 Jan 2003 19:31:53 -0600, Mike Bonar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: You know, I still have

RE: [Flightgear-devel] KSFO International Terminal

2003-01-17 Thread David Megginson
Michael Basler writes: as an interim report, the guy with the FS98 add-on KSFO scenery did not answer until now (but mail did not bounce either). I'll stay tuned, but doubt he will... it's just been so long ago and he did never provide upgrades for FS2000/2 . I fear you'll have to

re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] runways at LHBP?

2003-01-17 Thread David Megginson
Major A writes: Anyone know of a new runway at LHBP (Budapest Ferihegy), or where I can find more up-to-date information about it? Depending on how good your Hungarian is, you can try this: http://www.bud-airport.hu/ All the best, David -- David Megginson, [EMAIL PROTECTED],

Re: [Flightgear-devel] KSFO International Terminal

2003-01-17 Thread David Megginson
Major A writes: the link you provided might be of help here: http://edj.net/cgi-bin/echoplate.pl?SouthWest/SFO_.GIF It's only 2D, but it gives you a good idea where things are. Yes, I've been using that NOAA facilities plate for the airport. It's especially useful because it has

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Build Problem with MSVC 6.0

2003-01-17 Thread Jonathan Polley
Dave, Worked like a champ. A few more instances of this have turned up, and I can supply diffs if you are interested. Thanks, Jonathan Polley On Friday, January 17, 2003, at 10:39 AM, David Luff wrote: Jonathan, I've got behind reading my mail from this list, and I've only just read

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] runways at LHBP?

2003-01-17 Thread Major A
Anyone know of a new runway at LHBP (Budapest Ferihegy), or where I can find more up-to-date information about it? Depending on how good your Hungarian is, you can try this: http://www.bud-airport.hu/ Thanks, my Hungarian is fine, but there is no information on that site that I

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Possible source for usable code

2003-01-17 Thread JD Fenech
If you really want LHX, I can send you my copy. It's so old I doubt anyone sells it anymore. I think that might have been the first flight sim I played too. Curiouser and curiouser. Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Thu, 16 Jan 2003 19:31:53 -0600, Mike Bonar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL