RE: [Flightgear-devel] MingW 0.92

2003-06-11 Thread Norman Vine
Frederic Bouvier writes: Norman Vine wrote : [snip] continues to spew Stopping audio after 0 sec: squeal Stopping audio after 0 sec: rumble Anybody got any ideas ?? It happens to me with MSVC when I link the MS runtime statically. The sound works (I can hear something) when

Re: [Flightgear-devel] MingW 0.92

2003-06-11 Thread Frederic Bouvier
I wrote: Norman Vine wrote : [snip] continues to spew Stopping audio after 0 sec: squeal Stopping audio after 0 sec: rumble Anybody got any ideas ?? It happens to me with MSVC when I link the MS runtime statically. The sound works (I can hear something) when the MS runtime is

[Flightgear-devel] Re: Rsync access to base package and source?

2003-06-11 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Julian Foad -- Tuesday 10 June 2003 23:06: CVS repositories have moved, although the old ones still seem to be responding (but presumably out of date). Yes, extremely out of date. As I'm on a dial-up modem, I'm looking for a way to avoid a complete check-out (tens of megabytes - hours

Re: [Flightgear-devel] 737 model

2003-06-11 Thread Innis Cunningham
Hi Dave David Culp wrote On Friday 06 June 2003 10:33 pm, Innis Cunningham wrote: Hi All I have downloaded a 737-300 model EX FS98 and have got it to show thanks to David Megginson and Wolfram Kuss's wise words. Has some got a model about ready if not do you want this one when I get it

[Flightgear-devel] Re: MingW 0.92

2003-06-11 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Frederic Bouvier -- Wednesday 11 June 2003 08:04: I retrieved the CVS sl library date before 18 May 2003 and it works again, so it is the patch submitted by Melchior and Bert that is broken under Win32. Yes, this may well be. But the breakage is then probably in the Windows #if-branches

Re: [Flightgear-devel] next volunteer

2003-06-11 Thread Richard A Downing FBCS
On Thu, 12 Jun 2003 13:45:39 +1000 Tim Jelliffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Would all these need to be done in Blender? I had a go at using this the other day, and quite frankly I found it very hard to use, even after following a couple of the tutorials. Assuming that I can get the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: MingW 0.92

2003-06-11 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Melchior FRANZ wrote: * Frederic Bouvier -- Wednesday 11 June 2003 08:04: I retrieved the CVS sl library date before 18 May 2003 and it works again, so it is the patch submitted by Melchior and Bert that is broken under Win32. Yes, this may well be. But the breakage is then probably in

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: MingW 0.92

2003-06-11 Thread Frederic Bouvier
I wrote : That's it ! I just discovered that commenting out the usage of secondsRemaining cure the problem. Why shoud it be different for Linux and Windows ? I have no idea of how the real size of the free space in the sound buffer can be computed ! I just realized the stupidity of my

[Flightgear-devel] Re: MingW 0.92

2003-06-11 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Frederic Bouvier -- Wednesday 11 June 2003 08:44: That's it ! I just discovered that commenting out the usage of secondsRemaining cure the problem. Why shoud it be different for Linux and Windows ? I have no idea of how the real size of the free space in the sound buffer can be computed !

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: MingW 0.92

2003-06-11 Thread Norman Vine
Frederic Bouvier writes: Melchior FRANZ wrote: * Frederic Bouvier -- Wednesday 11 June 2003 08:04: I retrieved the CVS sl library date before 18 May 2003 and it works again, so it is the patch submitted by Melchior and Bert that is broken under Win32. Yes, this may well be. But

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Profiling/Graphics/Menus

2003-06-11 Thread Erik Hofman
Jim Wilson wrote: My guess is a Geforce2/MX 32mb would be a good minimum. That's what I'm using here and it seems fine. I'll usually get between 35-60 fps or so with it bottoming out at 24fps on that pig of a p51-d cockpit I built. Faster cards are getting cheap, but I kind of like being on

[Flightgear-devel] MSVC Win32 0.9.2 binary build

2003-06-11 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Hello, I have a build of fgfs 0.9.2 for windows without threads but with sound. Unfortunately, I can't host it, so if someone has free space (1.2 Mb tar.gz) (Martin ?), he can contact me directly to arrange an upload to his site. Cheers, -Fred

Re: [Flightgear-devel] next volunteer

2003-06-11 Thread Innis Cunningham
Hi Tim I live in Perth WA. As far as I understand all that is needed to put models in the sim is to make the model in AC3D put it in the scenery folder that contains the tile for the area the model belongs then modify the stg file for the area. To get some idea how it works have a look in the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] next volunteer

2003-06-11 Thread Innis Cunningham
Hi David David Megginson wrote . We need people to start modelling identifiable human-made landmarks like bridges, stadiums, and major buildings. Around the Bay area, bridges are especially important (there's a sad, lonely gap between SF and Marin Co. right now where the Golden Gate should be).

RE: [Flightgear-devel] next volunteer

2003-06-11 Thread Norman Vine
Richard A Downing FBCS writes: There are two different motivations for writing OS software: (1) 'cos it's fun and you are interested and you want it for yourself, and (2) 'cos there's a demand out there, and you can satisfy it. Every OS hacker feels both motivations. But if (2) is

Re: [Flightgear-devel] next volunteer

2003-06-11 Thread Erik Hofman
David Megginson wrote: p.s. Why isn't there an O'Reilly FlightGear book yet? What mascot should they use? I always thought FlightGear could need an owl with it's sharp vision. Erik ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Flightgear-devel] next volunteer

2003-06-11 Thread Frederic BOUVIER
Innis Cunningham wrote : Hi Tim I live in Perth WA. As far as I understand all that is needed to put models in the sim is to make the model in AC3D put it in the scenery folder that contains the tile for the area the model belongs then modify the stg file for the area. To get some idea how

RE: [Flightgear-devel] next volunteer

2003-06-11 Thread Jon Berndt
Thanks for picking up on my joke about the O'Reilly book. The biggest problem with serious documentation right now is that so much of FlightGear is in a state of flux: even the mini-HOWTO's I've written fall quickly out of date. I'm not saying that we shouldn't document, but anyone working

Re: [Flightgear-devel] next volunteer

2003-06-11 Thread Erik Hofman
David Megginson wrote: Norman Vine writes: FWIW - I like WIKIs for documentation in that they tend to be updated more often as the efforts of ones work is immediately accessable to all. That's an outstanding idea. Can anyone set up a FlightGear doc WIKI? We have a WIKI base, it's called

Re: [Flightgear-devel] next volunteer

2003-06-11 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Hi Richard, Thanks for your comments. You make some very good points. Documenation is something that is hard work, but that we should all strive to do a better job with it. Being an open-source project, one of our big challenges is we don't have any full time employees who we can dedicate

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Rsync access to base package and source?

2003-06-11 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Melchior FRANZ writes: * Julian Foad -- Tuesday 10 June 2003 23:06: CVS repositories have moved, although the old ones still seem to be responding (but presumably out of date). Yes, extremely out of date. FWIW, the source repository moved to a new machine, but so also did the dns name so

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: MingW 0.92

2003-06-11 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Frederic Bouvier writes: That's it ! I just discovered that commenting out the usage of secondsRemaining cure the problem. Why shoud it be different for Linux and Windows ? I have no idea of how the real size of the free space in the sound buffer can be computed ! plib keeps a fifo buffer for

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: MingW 0.92

2003-06-11 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Frederic Bouvier writes: I wrote : That's it ! I just discovered that commenting out the usage of secondsRemaining cure the problem. Why shoud it be different for Linux and Windows ? I have no idea of how the real size of the free space in the sound buffer can be computed ! I just

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: next volunteer

2003-06-11 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Melchior FRANZ writes: * Erik Hofman -- Wednesday 11 June 2003 10:50: David Megginson wrote: p.s. Why isn't there an O'Reilly FlightGear book yet? What mascot should they use? I always thought FlightGear could need an owl with it's sharp vision. Bad luck:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] next volunteer

2003-06-11 Thread David Megginson
Erik Hofman writes: BTW. I just learned what WIKI really is and think it is quite useful. There is one drawback, it really needs active moderators to monitor what happens to the docs. But that might be a minor drawback. Moderators? Wiki's don't need no stinkin' moderators! If you don't

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: next volunteer

2003-06-11 Thread David Megginson
Curtis L. Olson writes: Maybe they'd break with tradition and put a Wright Flyer or p51d on the cover. That would get us a lot of attention if nothing else ... Is anyone using the albatross yet? Allt he best, David -- David Megginson, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.megginson.com/

Re: [Flightgear-devel] next volunteer

2003-06-11 Thread Erik Hofman
David Megginson wrote: Erik Hofman writes: BTW. I just learned what WIKI really is and think it is quite useful. There is one drawback, it really needs active moderators to monitor what happens to the docs. But that might be a minor drawback. Moderators? Wiki's don't need no stinkin'

RE: [Flightgear-devel] next volunteer

2003-06-11 Thread Heckel Yu
I am really happy to see we are discussing on the documentation of this excellent project.:-) I am also a newbie in FlightGear. I just downloaded all files and made a first successful loadbuild in cygwin. I really want to look into the codes to find out what I can do for this project since I saw

[Flightgear-devel] Re: MingW 0.92

2003-06-11 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Curtis L. Olson -- Wednesday 11 June 2003 14:14: Actually this is seconds remaining in the plib buffers [...] No. It's kernel sound buffer space. The implementations for Linux and IRIX make that quite clear. Both ask the kernel for buffer info (Linux: ioctl(...SNDCTL_DSP_GETOSPACE...); IRIX:

[Flightgear-devel] Re: MingW 0.92

2003-06-11 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Erik Hofman -- Wednesday 11 June 2003 14:45: YIRIX locks up until there is enough room in the buffer for the amount of data sent to it. Linux doesn't lock up. It just endlessly returns EAGAIN (= not now; try later), which basically locks up plib. How about returning: init_bytes/rate -

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: MingW 0.92

2003-06-11 Thread Norman Vine
Melchior FRANZ writes: * Erik Hofman -- Wednesday 11 June 2003 14:45: YIRIX locks up until there is enough room in the buffer for the amount of data sent to it. Linux doesn't lock up. It just endlessly returns EAGAIN (= not now; try later), which basically locks up plib. How about

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Artificial horizon reset bug?

2003-06-11 Thread Jim Wilson
Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: The strange bit is that the artificial horizon is always wrong by about 20 degrees. It behaves correctly during turns, climbs etc, but it seems that the offset is always wrong by 20 degrees! I have tried this several times, and get the same behavior. Sometimes

Re: [Flightgear-devel] 737 model

2003-06-11 Thread Jim Wilson
Innis Cunningham [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: No Dave its not the Westwind Airlines model.This one is built by Mehlin Rainer for fs98 ,16 sided model. My tools for the coversion are. Actually it's Rainer Mehlin. Reference the legalities of using these models.If they are designated freeware

Re: [Flightgear-devel] next volunteer

2003-06-11 Thread Jim Wilson
David Megginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: p.s. Why isn't there an O'Reilly FlightGear book yet? Because there isn't enough already-free-on-the-internet documentation to be pirated for a book. :-) What mascot should they use? Bill Gates in a monkey suit? Best, Jim

[Flightgear-devel] Command-line Weather Options

2003-06-11 Thread David Megginson
The command-line options for weather (--wind, --visibility, --visibility-miles, --turbulence, and --random-wind) should all be working again. All the best, David -- David Megginson, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.megginson.com/ ___ Flightgear-devel

[Flightgear-devel] Wiki Farms

2003-06-11 Thread David Megginson
Following up on Norm's excellent suggestion to set up a FlightGear documentation Wiki, I've located a couple of free Wiki farms: http://www.seedwiki.com/ http://wikiwikiweb.de/ Are there others out there that would be suitable? Or would Curt be willing to set up a Wiki server on the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Artificial horizon reset bug?

2003-06-11 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Jim Wilson writes: Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: The strange bit is that the artificial horizon is always wrong by about 20 degrees. It behaves correctly during turns, climbs etc, but it seems that the offset is always wrong by 20 degrees! I have tried this several times, and get the

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Wiki Farms

2003-06-11 Thread Norman Vine
Norman Vine David Megginson writes: Are there others out there that would be suitable? Or we could setup our own at SourceForge Note here is an example of using MoinMoin to document a FlightSimulator project http://csp.sourceforge.net/ Cheers Norman

re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs]

2003-06-11 Thread David Megginson
Martin Spott writes: Do you intend to supply a default 'quite windy' scheme for convenience of those who simply would like to try a sort of second level in the game ? That's too easy. Try --random-wind instead. All the best, David -- David Megginson, [EMAIL PROTECTED],

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Wiki Farms

2003-06-11 Thread David Megginson
Norman Vine writes: Or we could setup our own at SourceForge Note here is an example of using MoinMoin to document a FlightSimulator project http://csp.sourceforge.net/ I didn't know that we could set up a Wiki through SourceForge. I guess this all comes down to Curt -- I know that

[Flightgear-devel] What is ...

2003-06-11 Thread Jon S Berndt
What's a wiki? ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Wiki Farms

2003-06-11 Thread Curtis L. Olson
David Megginson writes: Norman Vine writes: Or we could setup our own at SourceForge Note here is an example of using MoinMoin to document a FlightSimulator project http://csp.sourceforge.net/ I didn't know that we could set up a Wiki through SourceForge. I guess this all

Re: [Flightgear-devel] What is ...

2003-06-11 Thread Pieter Pareit
Op woensdag 11 juni 2003 19:37, schreef Jon S Berndt: What's a wiki? http://www.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?search=wikigo=Go In short, a web page that can contain anything, that can be updated by anyone at anytime. pieter ___ Flightgear-devel

Re: [Flightgear-devel] What is ...

2003-06-11 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Wed, 11 Jun 2003 19:54:45 +0200 Pieter Pareit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Op woensdag 11 juni 2003 19:37, schreef Jon S Berndt: What's a wiki? http://www.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?search=wikigo=Go In short, a web page that can contain anything, that can be updated by anyone at anytime. Hmmm.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Improved Weather

2003-06-11 Thread Etienne Tourigny
On Mon, 2003-06-09 at 05:45, Erik Hofman wrote: David Megginson wrote: Does anyone know of a world-wide source for downloadable digital information on winds aloft? I think this comes closest to what is available. I'm not sure how usefull these TAF reports are:

Re: re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs]

2003-06-11 Thread Martin Spott
David Megginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Martin Spott writes: Do you intend to supply a default 'quite windy' scheme for convenience of those who simply would like to try a sort of second level in the game ? That's too easy. Try --random-wind instead. I already do so ;-) Martin.

re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs]

2003-06-11 Thread Curtis L. Olson
David Megginson writes: That's too easy. Try --random-wind instead. I don't see this one listed in --options --verbose ... Curt. -- Curtis Olson IVLab / HumanFIRST Program FlightGear Project Twin Citiescurt 'at' me.umn.edu curt 'at' flightgear.org Minnesota

[Flightgear-devel] crash on very first start of 0.9.2

2003-06-11 Thread Martin Koller
Hi all, I just downloaded version 0.9.2 and compiled and installed everything on my Linux Suse 8.0. On the first start I get a Segmentation fault, and looking in gdb I see: Is it normal that the total variable is ZERO ? Initializing scenery subsystem Program received signal SIGSEGV,

RE: [Flightgear-devel] What is ...

2003-06-11 Thread Norman Vine
Pieter Pareit writes: Op woensdag 11 juni 2003 20:48, schreef Curtis L. Olson: Pieter Pareit writes: Op woensdag 11 juni 2003 19:37, schreef Jon S Berndt: What's a wiki? http://www.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?search=wikigo=Go In short, a web page that can contain anything,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] z key broken ?

2003-06-11 Thread Matevz Jekovec
Frederic Bouvier wrote: I see something strange with the visibility setting (z key). I can increase the visibility range but in less than one second, it is reset automatically to the initial value. Is it related to the recent weather code change ? -Fred

[Flightgear-devel] Small feature request

2003-06-11 Thread Matevz Jekovec
I've come up with some brilliant quick fixes (hope so) I would very like to see someday:). 1) Is there a way to implement the sim would pause everytime the FlightGear window losses focus (for eg. switcing desktops in KDE or alt-tab or just hitting the other window if fgfs is not fullscreen). I

Re: [Flightgear-devel] What is ...

2003-06-11 Thread David Megginson
Jon S Berndt writes: Hmmm. I'm skeptical over how useful such a thing would really be. I was too, but the Wikipedia itself convinced me. All the best, David -- David Megginson, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.megginson.com/ ___

re: [Flightgear-devel] z key broken ?

2003-06-11 Thread David Megginson
Frederic Bouvier writes: I see something strange with the visibility setting (z key). I can increase the visibility range but in less than one second, it is reset automatically to the initial value. Is it related to the recent weather code change ? Yes. All the best, David --

[Flightgear-devel] RE: [Flightgear-users] MingW 0.92

2003-06-11 Thread Norman Vine
Norman Vine wrote: I have temporarily placed a Windows 0.9.2 fgfs executable bundled with the necessary pthreads.dll and a gui/menubar.xml that allows toggling in and out of GameMode @ http://www.vso.cape.com/~nhv/files/fgfs/ Note: The AutoPilot in this executable is compiled to use true

[Flightgear-devel] Win32 binaries

2003-06-11 Thread Frederic BOUVIER
Hi, Thanks to Martin Spott that dedicated a place for that, I have uploaded an msvc win32 build of fgfs 0.9.2 here : ftp://ftp.ihg.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/Win32/fgfs-win32-msvc-bin-0.9.2.zip For line ending reasons, it must be used with the accompanied base package :