RE: [Flightgear-devel] Spitfire - new release

2004-08-13 Thread Vivian Meazza
Andy Ross wrote: Sent: 12 August 2004 19:58 To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Spitfire - new release OK, Melchior helped to debug this via chat while I was working on cell phone UI bugs at work. :) It turns out to have been a pair of typos in

RE: [Flightgear-devel] terrasync and terrain/scenery

2004-08-13 Thread Vivian Meazza
Erik Hofman asked: Sent: 12 August 2004 18:00 To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] terrasync and terrain/scenery Vivian Meazza wrote: Then windsocks and radio towers will magically appear in Europe. Or anyway, they do for me :-). Are you sure

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ALERT: Losing the DAFIF

2004-08-13 Thread Peter L
I wonder what would happen if some unaware pilot cuts the cable of an actively used cable railway in the Alps because of the lack of information. He he... You mean like the US air force a few years ago? Peter ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ALERT: Losing the DAFIF

2004-08-13 Thread Erik Hofman
Peter L wrote: I wonder what would happen if some unaware pilot cuts the cable of an actively used cable railway in the Alps because of the lack of information. He he... You mean like the US air force a few years ago? Was it the USAF? I couldn't remember anymore, just that it happened.. Erik

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ALERT: Losing the DAFIF

2004-08-13 Thread Peter L
Was it the USAF? I couldn't remember anymore, just that it happened.. Actually, marines. Very unfortunate accident in clear weather in 1998 in Italy. US marine training flight, the plane returned with some damage. The route was a well used one, but it appears they flew lower than normal.

[Flightgear-devel] Re: ALERT: Losing the DAFIF

2004-08-13 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Peter L -- Saturday 14 August 2004 05:14: Was it the USAF? I couldn't remember anymore, just that it happened.. Actually, marines. Very unfortunate accident in clear weather in 1998 in Italy. US marine training flight, the plane returned with some damage. The route was a well used one,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] terrasync and terrain/scenery

2004-08-13 Thread Matevz Jekovec
Erik Hofman wrote: Matevz Jekovec wrote: Does terrasync download terrain only or scenery objects as well. Because the current terrasync repository still has the old structure IMO. (I set the terrasync root dir to fgfs/data/Scenery/Terrain to get it work, but this doesn't include objects

[Flightgear-devel] Re: terrasync and terrain/scenery

2004-08-13 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Matevz Jekovec -- Friday 13 August 2004 12:55: Hm..., what about the Eiffel tower, Big Ben, English Parlament, cathedrals, islam churches (sorry, I forgot how they are called :-( )? mosque Weren't they modeled yet? It seems like we aren't enough developers for these. There are a few

Re: [Flightgear-devel] terrasync and terrain/scenery

2004-08-13 Thread Erik Hofman
Matevz Jekovec wrote: Erik Hofman wrote: Hm..., what about the Eiffel tower, Big Ben, English Parlament, cathedrals, islam churches (sorry, I forgot how they are called :-( )? Weren't they modeled yet? There is a generic observatory model, but no database to place them correctly. The rest of

[Flightgear-devel] Beacons

2004-08-13 Thread David Megginson
Melchior FRANZ wrote: He probably means the beacons. These are everywhere, along with the towers socks. Has anyone ever seen beacons on a tall tower like that in real life? Normally, I think, it's just on the roof of the control tower or another airport building, and since people have to see it

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: ALERT: Losing the DAFIF

2004-08-13 Thread Peter L
That's a bit euphemistic. They flew lower than allowed, against clear orders. And the pilot filmed the whole thing to show off to his friends (IIRC). Despite killing 20(?) people the fines were AFAIK ridiculously low. He would have sat a few years in prison in most legal systems ... Yeah, I

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ALERT: Losing the DAFIF

2004-08-13 Thread David Megginson
Jim Wilson wrote: Ah...oh. H. What is the AIP? I hadn't read government into that first posting at all, but maybe there was a typo. If it is the RAAF or Aussie government in some form, this could be a serious problem for information on the web, that goes a bit beyond this one data set.

[Flightgear-devel] Re: ALERT: Losing the DAFIF

2004-08-13 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Peter L -- Saturday 14 August 2004 07:31: That's a bit euphemistic. Yeah, I was a bit more polite than normal. Just put it down to not knowing you guys yet... No problem. And I didn't want to make it sound as if you pardoned a criminal. :-) I just wanted to make clear that this was *not*

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ALERT: Losing the DAFIF

2004-08-13 Thread Peter L
In Oz, the AIP is available from www.Airservicesaustralia.com (a gov. body). They sell the info, but you can also get the PDF's online under online documents. To get electronic data, you have to buy it. The ERSA suppliments are also there. ERSA it managed by the RAAF/Airservices. Peter -

[Flightgear-devel] New JSBSim Newsletter

2004-08-13 Thread Jon Berndt
Greetings: The July (!) issue of Back of the Envelope is up and linked from the main page of the JSBSim web site, www.jsbsim.org. In this issue, Erik shares his experiences in creating the flight model for the F-16. There is also an article about data output from JSBSim, and an in depth review

Re: [Flightgear-devel] terrasync and terrain/scenery

2004-08-13 Thread Jon Stockill
Matevz Jekovec wrote: Hm..., what about the Eiffel tower, Big Ben, English Parlament, cathedrals, islam churches (sorry, I forgot how they are called :-( )? Weren't they modeled yet? I have chimneys and cooling towers for a lot of the big UK power stations - quite handy for navigation. The

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: ALERT: Losing the DAFIF

2004-08-13 Thread Jim Wilson
Melchior FRANZ said: * Peter L -- Saturday 14 August 2004 05:14: Was it the USAF? I couldn't remember anymore, just that it happened.. Actually, marines. Very unfortunate accident in clear weather in 1998 in Italy. US marine training flight, the plane returned with some damage.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: ALERT: Losing the DAFIF

2004-08-13 Thread Jim Wilson
Melchior FRANZ said: * Peter L -- Saturday 14 August 2004 07:31: That's a bit euphemistic. Yeah, I was a bit more polite than normal. Just put it down to not knowing you guys yet... No problem. And I didn't want to make it sound as if you pardoned a criminal. :-) I just wanted to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] New JSBSim Newsletter

2004-08-13 Thread Jim Wilson
Jon Berndt said: Greetings: The July (!) issue of Back of the Envelope is up and linked from the main page of the JSBSim web site, www.jsbsim.org. In this issue, Erik shares his experiences in creating the flight model for the F-16. There is also an article about data output from JSBSim,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: terrasync and terrain/scenery

2004-08-13 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 13:15:55 +0200, Melchior wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: * Matevz Jekovec -- Friday 13 August 2004 12:55: Hm..., what about the Eiffel tower, Big Ben, English Parlament, cathedrals, islam churches (sorry, I forgot how they are called :-( )? mosque ..close:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Two scenery design issues.

2004-08-13 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Erik Hofman wrote: Vivian Meazza wrote: AC3D seems to add the material colour to the texture No, it's OpenGL that does this. With everything related to modeling you have to take into account the possibilities and requirements of OpenGL, and not that of your 3d modeler program. To be