[Flightgear-devel] Joystick configurationc hange (Was: Upcoming v0.9.8 release)

2005-01-17 Thread Erik Hofman
Oliver C. wrote: In this case it depends on the following: Does a definition get not defined when a value is missing? Not anymore, I have committed a patch that ignores platforms that re not specified within the number/number section. This is a heads up for all joystick users: I have thought

Re: [Flightgear-devel] splash screen

2005-01-17 Thread Manuel Massing
Hi, I've been holding off my code changes already since Christmas. ;-) why not tag the planned releases as branches. This way development can continue in HEAD while the releases can be tested and bugfixed in- dependently. This is fairly standard procedure for open source projects (e.g. KDE,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] splash screen

2005-01-17 Thread Durk Talsma
On Monday 17 January 2005 12:51, Manuel Massing wrote: Hi, I've been holding off my code changes already since Christmas. ;-) why not tag the planned releases as branches. This way development can continue in HEAD while the releases can be tested and bugfixed in- dependently. This is

[Flightgear-devel] Removing PLIB SL dependencies

2005-01-17 Thread Martin Spott
Didn't I already post this ? must have gone lost somewhere on my servers :-) I changed my scripts to build PLIB without 'SL' by default which made be encounter some old but apparently unused dependencies: 1.) src/Input/Makefile still adds '-plibsl -lplibsm' for linking 'js_demo'. I

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Removing PLIB SL dependencies

2005-01-17 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Martin Spott wrote: Didn't I already post this ? must have gone lost somewhere on my servers :-) I changed my scripts to build PLIB without 'SL' by default which made be encounter some old but apparently unused dependencies: 1.) src/Input/Makefile still adds '-plibsl -lplibsm' for linking

Re: [Flightgear-devel] splash screen

2005-01-17 Thread Innis Cunningham
Hi Durk Durk Talsma writes Well, I guess every open source project has it's own way of doing things. Curt's announcement of a new planned release flagged the start of a feature freeze period, but it also coincided with a rare opportunity for me to do some development work. So I decided not to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Removing PLIB SL dependencies

2005-01-17 Thread Erik Hofman
Curtis L. Olson wrote: Martin Spott wrote: Didn't I already post this ? must have gone lost somewhere on my servers :-) I changed my scripts to build PLIB without 'SL' by default which made be encounter some old but apparently unused dependencies: 1.) src/Input/Makefile still adds '-plibsl

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Removing PLIB SL dependencies

2005-01-17 Thread Martin Spott
Curtis L. Olson wrote: 1.) src/Input/Makefile still adds '-plibsl -lplibsm' for linking 'js_demo'. I think they are not used anymore, the whole $(audio_LIBS) clause could be removed from this subdir. I have the vague recollection that some platform depends on this for some odd reason

Re: [Flightgear-devel] splash screen

2005-01-17 Thread Durk Talsma
On Monday 17 January 2005 14:41, Innis Cunningham wrote: Hi Durk Durk Talsma writes Well, I guess every open source project has it's own way of doing things. Curt's announcement of a new planned release flagged the start of a feature freeze period, but it also coincided with a rare

[Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-225.

2005-01-17 Thread Dave Martin
I've just been poking round for information on the Antonov AN-225 specifically regarding roll-rate. I initially found a few references made by the pilots of this aircraft that it is as responsive, if not moreso than the Ruslan. The FDM for FGs AN-225 has incredibly sluggish roll response and

Re: [Flightgear-devel] splash screen

2005-01-17 Thread Innis Cunningham
Durk Talsma writes Does this mean we are not going to get the fixed AI in this release?. Hi Innis, No worries mate (as I picked up while I was down under last year) :-) Keep this up and we may need to make you an honorary Aussi.:-) I did submit the bugfix, just not the new features. Btw, could

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-225.

2005-01-17 Thread Martin Spott
Dave Martin wrote: http://www.airshowphotography.com/videos/videos2.html Nice, a 45 degree turn just one wing-span AGL :-) Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! --

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-225.

2005-01-17 Thread Dave Martin
On Monday 17 Jan 2005 15:31, Martin Spott wrote: Dave Martin wrote: http://www.airshowphotography.com/videos/videos2.html Nice, a 45 degree turn just one wing-span AGL :-) Martin. I've been playing with the FDM and changing the line in the yasim file: flap1 start=0.75 end=0.95 lift=1.15

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Joystick configurationc hange (Was: Upcoming v0.9.8 release)

2005-01-17 Thread Oliver C.
On Monday 17 January 2005 11:40, Erik Hofman wrote: Oliver C. wrote: In this case it depends on the following: Does a definition get not defined when a value is missing? Not anymore, I have committed a patch that ignores platforms that re not specified within the number/number section.

[Flightgear-devel] Replay mode

2005-01-17 Thread Jim Wilson
Having just hit it unintentionally, I'm wondering if the replay key should be bound to a combo key (a Ctrl+key) or Fxx key? It has pretty dramatic and sudden effect. Making it the r binding not very good UI design (unless one is doing more replays than flying). For some reason I thought r was

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-225.

2005-01-17 Thread Vivian Meazza
Dave Martin wrote On Monday 17 Jan 2005 15:31, Martin Spott wrote: Dave Martin wrote: http://www.airshowphotography.com/videos/videos2.html Nice, a 45 degree turn just one wing-span AGL :-) Martin. I've been playing with the FDM and changing the line in the yasim file: flap1

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Joystick configuration change

2005-01-17 Thread Erik Hofman
Oliver C. wrote: Sounds okay for me. But what about such a solution: axis descView Elevation/desc number unix5/unix windows7/windows /number low repeatabletrue/repeatable binding commandproperty-adjust/command

[Flightgear-devel] A380

2005-01-17 Thread Christian Mayer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 When do we have a flyable A380? It can't be that Airbus was faster than we are: http://slashdot.org/articles/05/01/17/0437202.shtml?tid=126 CU, Christian ;) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with

[Flightgear-devel] Individual aircraft downloads

2005-01-17 Thread Curtis L. Olson
For the upcoming release of FG, I'm working on a couple scripts to create/manage a web page for individual downloads. Here is where I'm at so far. There is plenty room for improvement, but this will at least get us started: http://www.flightgear.org/Downloads/aircraft/ If aircraft

Re: [Flightgear-devel] A380

2005-01-17 Thread Paul Surgeon
On Monday, 17 January 2005 20:51, Christian Mayer wrote: When do we have a flyable A380? It can't be that Airbus was faster than we are: http://slashdot.org/articles/05/01/17/0437202.shtml?tid=126 When we can get the specs and no I don't just mean the shape of the aircraft. We already have

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-225.

2005-01-17 Thread Dave Martin
On Monday 17 Jan 2005 17:06, Vivian Meazza wrote: Dave Martin wrote On Monday 17 Jan 2005 15:31, Martin Spott wrote: Dave Martin wrote: http://www.airshowphotography.com/videos/videos2.html Nice, a 45 degree turn just one wing-span AGL :-) Martin. I've been playing with

[Flightgear-devel] 0.9.8 Scenery path bug

2005-01-17 Thread Durk Talsma
Hi, I just ran into the following issue: In my .fgfsrc I have specified --fg-scenery=/home/durk/FlightGear-Scenery-0.9.5/ Which is a directory I had just deleted a few minutes earlier, because of an upgrade to Scenery-0.9.[78]. As a result, FlightGear quit with a segmentaton fault. In

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-225.

2005-01-17 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Dave Martin wrote: I was originally testing with absolute minimum fuel and I could still get it into situations where it wouldn't lift the inner wing from 45' bank at 170kts. I'm going to have a go with a figure of 1.5 for lift. One thing tho; the lift figure is the 'maximum' ie: at full

Re: [Flightgear-devel] 0.9.8 Scenery path bug

2005-01-17 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Durk Talsma wrote: Hi, I just ran into the following issue: In my .fgfsrc I have specified --fg-scenery=/home/durk/FlightGear-Scenery-0.9.5/ Which is a directory I had just deleted a few minutes earlier, because of an upgrade to Scenery-0.9.[78]. As a result, FlightGear quit with a segmentaton

[Flightgear-devel] Re: 0.9.8 Scenery path bug

2005-01-17 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Curtis L. Olson -- Monday 17 January 2005 21:36: As a result, FlightGear quit with a segmentaton fault. In conclusion, when --fg-scenery points to a non-existing directory, FlightGear seg faults. [...] Could this be related to the terrain/object separation support in the newest version?

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: 0.9.8 Scenery path bug

2005-01-17 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Melchior FRANZ wrote: * Curtis L. Olson -- Monday 17 January 2005 21:36: As a result, FlightGear quit with a segmentaton fault. In conclusion, when --fg-scenery points to a non-existing directory, FlightGear seg faults. [...] Could this be related to the terrain/object separation

[Flightgear-devel] Re: 0.9.8 Scenery path bug

2005-01-17 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Curtis L. Olson -- Monday 17 January 2005 21:59: Any chance you can get us a gdb backtrace? I can reproduce the crash, though. I'll look into it ... m. ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.org

[Flightgear-devel] Reloading electrical setup

2005-01-17 Thread Espen Otterstad
Hi! I'm doing some experiments regarding setting up a semi realistic electrical system for an aircraft in FlightGear and just wondert if there is any function to reload this settings (from the XML file) at runtime so that you don't have to restart FlightGear to see your changes in the property

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: 0.9.8 Scenery path bug

2005-01-17 Thread Durk Talsma
On Monday 17 January 2005 22:12, Melchior FRANZ wrote: * Curtis L. Olson -- Monday 17 January 2005 21:59: Any chance you can get us a gdb backtrace? I can reproduce the crash, though. I'll look into it ... m. Thanks Melchior. Anyways, here's my backtrace: Just out of curiosity: Would it

[Flightgear-devel] Re: 0.9.8 Scenery path bug

2005-01-17 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Durk Talsma -- Monday 17 January 2005 22:31: Would it be the case that the loader fails because it doesn't have a path to read data from? This is a bit of a wild guess, Wild, indeed. But exactly this seems to be the case. My bad. Yes, it's going to be an fgfs fix. Give me a few minutes ...

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Individual aircraft downloads

2005-01-17 Thread Paul Surgeon
I don't want to sound like someone who likes to nitpik but ... :) Is there any good reason to use PNGs for the thumbnails? There will be 60 aircraft thumbnails and we are averaging about 32K per thumbnail at the moment even with max PNG compression. That equates to nearly 2MB just for

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Individual aircraft downloads

2005-01-17 Thread Curtis L. Olson
A fair point ... I'll take care of it ... Curt. Paul Surgeon wrote: I don't want to sound like someone who likes to nitpik but ... :) Is there any good reason to use PNGs for the thumbnails? There will be 60 aircraft thumbnails and we are averaging about 32K per thumbnail at the moment even

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Individual aircraft downloads

2005-01-17 Thread Arthur Wiebe
You can also lower the quality of PNG image as well as up the compression level. Doing so can make PNG's smaller than JPEG's. For example a top quality JPEG has a larger file size than a best quality PNG. So I don't know what you use to create the PNG's but you should be able to edit these

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Individual aircraft downloads

2005-01-17 Thread Chris Metzler
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 12:49:49 -0600 Curtis L. Olson wrote: For the upcoming release of FG, I'm working on a couple scripts to create/manage a web page for individual downloads. Here is where I'm at so far. There is plenty room for improvement, but this will at least get us started:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Individual aircraft downloads

2005-01-17 Thread Paul Surgeon
On Tuesday, 18 January 2005 00:32, Arthur Wiebe wrote: You can also lower the quality of PNG image as well as up the compression level. Doing so can make PNG's smaller than JPEG's. Now you've made me curious. I was using GIMP2 and set the compression to level 9 (max) How how does one lower the

[Flightgear-devel] [OT] Terrain photo-real howto

2005-01-17 Thread Robicd
Hi, Sorry, I know it's not a Developer's question but I don't find anything in the docs so I ask here. How do I use photo-real terrains? I have some nice aerial pictures of the city I leave in and I would like to use them into FGFS but I really don't know how to include them into a scenary.

[Flightgear-devel] 0.9.8-pre2 bo105 bug

2005-01-17 Thread Stewart Andreason
I'm really happy to see a helicopter in fg, and it is pretty nice too. :) Of course, it is harder to fly, or should I say, Land... than I thought. I've noticed a bug; if I crash :P and _replay_ (to watch from another angle) the model still shows the crashed version... flying. Happy hunting,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Individual aircraft downloads

2005-01-17 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Chris Metzler wrote: Cool. The one thing I'd recommend is including info about development status (at the very least, the one-word status that's used in the --min-status command line switch). Without it, there will be users d'l'ing a plane with great enthusiasm only to be disappointed to find

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-225.

2005-01-17 Thread Andy Ross
Curtis L. Olson wrote: Bear in mind that one thing that is commonly done on many aircraft is to pop up a spoiler on the wing that should drop. This can be a lot more effective than just deflecting airflow with the aileron. To my knowledge, YAsim doesn't model this directly [...] Actually,

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Individual aircraft downloads

2005-01-17 Thread Jon Berndt
In addition to the status tag, I also support a author and version tags. It would be great if people could go through and fill in these fields as they can. Is that for the FDM? JSBSim v2 config files will feature this header (partially in working with the DAVE-ML spec): fileheader

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-225.

2005-01-17 Thread Adam Dershowitz
Does anyone know if there is something similar in JSBSim? It seems that the spoilers there are only symmetric, so are useful for landing, but not for in flight use? -- Adam From: Andy Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: FlightGear developers discussions flightgear-devel@flightgear.org Date:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Individual aircraft downloads

2005-01-17 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Jon Berndt wrote: In addition to the status tag, I also support a author and version tags. It would be great if people could go through and fill in these fields as they can. Is that for the FDM? JSBSim v2 config files will feature this header (partially in working with the DAVE-ML spec):

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Individual aircraft downloads

2005-01-17 Thread Jim Wilson
Curtis L. Olson said: Chris Metzler wrote: Cool. The one thing I'd recommend is including info about development status (at the very least, the one-word status that's used in the --min-status command line switch). Without it, there will be users d'l'ing a plane with great enthusiasm only

Re: [Flightgear-devel] A380

2005-01-17 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On January 17, 2005 02:25 pm, Paul Surgeon wrote: We already have too many empty 3D models in FG without working FMCs, FMSs, ECAMs, NDs, etc. Paul It will be nice if you can implement these systems, perferablely by Nasal so that they can be flexible. Ampere

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-225.

2005-01-17 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On January 17, 2005 10:28 am, Dave Martin wrote: In the video linked from this page: http://www.planestv.com/planestv/an225.html the roll rate is very quick and there is no evidence of maximum aileron deflection (although only the port wing is visible as the roll commences). There are a few

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-225.

2005-01-17 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On January 17, 2005 07:49 pm, Adam Dershowitz wrote: Does anyone know if there is something similar in JSBSim? It seems that the spoilers there are only symmetric, so are useful for landing, but not for in flight use? -- Adam I would like to know this as well. Ampere

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Replay mode

2005-01-17 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On January 17, 2005 11:50 am, Jim Wilson wrote: For some reason I thought r was reverser.  It'd be nice to have r and R for thrust reverser on/off,  which is a binding that is as fundamental for the jet aircraft as the brake keys or magnetos are for the others. I disagree. I think it should be

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-225.

2005-01-17 Thread Jon Berndt
Does anyone know if there is something similar in JSBSim? It seems that the spoilers there are only symmetric, so are useful for landing, but not for in flight use? -- Adam It hasn't been done, yet - I was just discussing this offline with someone. Let me say that, yes, it certainly CAN be

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-225.

2005-01-17 Thread Adam Dershowitz
From: Jon Berndt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: FlightGear developers discussions flightgear-devel@flightgear.org Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:00:28 -0600 To: FlightGear developers discussions flightgear-devel@flightgear.org Subject: RE: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-225. Does anyone know if

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-225.

2005-01-17 Thread Jon Berndt
That sounds to me like the difficulty is in choosing (finding?) the coefficients, rather than in the coding of JSBSim? I don't mean to minimize the difficulty of finding all of those coefficients, but in some sense that is really a different problem than can JSBSim do it? No new code is

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-225.

2005-01-17 Thread Innis Cunningham
Adam Dershowitz writes Typically the spoilers will only deploy above some yoke position threshold (maybe actually a roll rate?), and then they can, of course, only deploy up, so only one is involved at a time. Unfortunately this is not the case with Boeing jet transport aircraft(707,727,737,747

Re: [Flightgear-devel] A380

2005-01-17 Thread Paul Surgeon
On Tuesday, 18 January 2005 04:40, Ampere K. Hardraade wrote: On January 17, 2005 02:25 pm, Paul Surgeon wrote: We already have too many empty 3D models in FG without working FMCs, FMSs, ECAMs, NDs, etc. Paul It will be nice if you can implement these systems, perferablely by Nasal so

[Flightgear-devel] Re: 0.9.8-pre2 bo105 bug

2005-01-17 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Stewart Andreason -- Tuesday 18 January 2005 00:35: I've noticed a bug; if I crash :P and _replay_ (to watch from another angle) the model still shows the crashed version... flying. That's a feature. It should remind you of your wrongdoings. Take better care of your bo105! m.