RE: [Flightgear-devel] YASim turbo/supercharger issues

2005-04-22 Thread Jon Berndt
> It's nice to be able to have backout routines for interpolation > tables, as well, which can be extremely helpful in initialization > code. For tables up to 3d with fixed independent indices (is this > what you meant by 'grid', or did you mean fixed intervals?), this is > pretty straightforward.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Another fgfs enabled rating!

2005-04-22 Thread Martin Spott
Adam Dershowitz wrote: > Martin: Yes, in the US it is often done in single engine airplanes. There > is a lot of single engine IFR flying here, so the rating is very useful on > its own, rather than as a step to other ratings. It really increases the > utility of a airplane greatly when a few c

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Another fgfs enabled rating!

2005-04-22 Thread Thomas Förster
Am Freitag 22 April 2005 05:07 schrieb Dave Perry: > I passed my instrument rating oral and practical (check ride) this > afternoon. Five hours including the oral and ride. Congratulations Dave. > Thanks to the entire FlightGear team for a great simulator with real > world applicability! I real

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Another fgfs enabled rating!

2005-04-22 Thread Adam Dershowitz
Dave, Congrats! The instrument rating is a particularly difficult rating, but is also a very useful rating to have. Martin: Yes, in the US it is often done in single engine airplanes. There is a lot of single engine IFR flying here, so the rating is very useful on its own, rather than as a st

RE: [Flightgear-devel] YASim turbo/supercharger issues

2005-04-22 Thread Jon Berndt
> Probably several. YASim has one for doing interpolation of standard > atmosphere parameters, and I'm sure there's a similar engine in the > JSBSim code, which depends on tables extensively in its configuration. Yeah, that's something that could be a project in itself. There are a few ways to d

Re: [Flightgear-devel] YASim turbo/supercharger issues

2005-04-22 Thread Drew
> Yeah, that's something that could be a project in itself. There are a few > ways to do > tables that I know of. JSBSim does "gridded" tables up to three independent > variables. I'd > like to extend that to ungridded tables of "n" dimensions. Maybe there's an > algorithm > around somewhere for

Re: [Flightgear-devel] YASim turbo/supercharger issues

2005-04-22 Thread Drew
> The real data is series 1, but only up to rpm-normalised = 1. For values > above 1, it's just a continuation by eye of the data. > > (See http://www.turbotechnics.com/supercharger/expo.htm Note that max power > is at 6500 rpm, and that the supercharger output is nearly flat at 7000 > rpm.) > >

RE: [Flightgear-devel] YASim turbo/supercharger issues

2005-04-22 Thread Vivian Meazza
Andy Ross wrote: > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flightgear-devel- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Sent: 22 April 2005 15:19 > To: FlightGear developers discussions > Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] YASim turbo/supercharger issues > > Vivian Meazza wrote: > > y

RE: [Flightgear-devel] AIManager and AIBase

2005-04-22 Thread Norman Vine
Not sure if I have pointed this out before or not http://www.cert.fr/CERTI/ Currently Unix only but HLA would make a great addition to FGFS Norman ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/l

Re: [Flightgear-devel] YASim turbo/supercharger issues

2005-04-22 Thread Andy Ross
Drew wrote: > IMHO, it's best to use interpolation tables rather than equations if > you're trying to curve fit empirical data. Not in this context. The data here isn't being used to model a specific engine, but to provide sane parameters for all (super/turbochared) engines. The performance and

[Flightgear-devel] Fun with Nasal (II)

2005-04-22 Thread Andy Ross
I wrote: > Finally, there's now a slight esoteric bind() function Which sounds weird, I know. But here's an application: Languages like Perl and Ruby have a really useful syntax (which they got from the shell) for "interpolating" variables into strings, so that for simple output you don't have t

[Flightgear-devel] Fun with Nasal

2005-04-22 Thread Andy Ross
Heh, it's been a fun day. I woke up with one of those great insights where you realize that something you thought was difficult just isn't. In this case, it was the lack of "+=" syntax (and -=, *=, /= and ~= of course) in Nasal. They're checked in now. I also threw in a forindex(i; list) loop sy

RE: [Flightgear-devel] YASim turbo/supercharger issues

2005-04-22 Thread Vivian Meazza
Andy Ross: > > If you do mean this equation then I can certainly live with that. If > > not, I'll need to put my thinking cap on ... I've updated the > > graphical representation here: > > Remind me again which one of these is the "real" engine data, and what > the source is? The only line on th

[Flightgear-devel] AIManager and AIBase

2005-04-22 Thread BONNEVILLE David
Hi people, I intend to use FG as a "viewer". I have an application that manipulate aircrafts, boats and more, and I'd like to see them living in a 3D world. I saw that in FG there is an AIManager that can do what I want. If I've understood its function, it manipulates AIBase objects which have a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Another fgfs enabled rating!

2005-04-22 Thread Thomas Förster
Am Freitag 22 April 2005 18:33 schrieb Martin Spott: > Adam Dershowitz wrote: > > Martin: Yes, in the US it is often done in single engine airplanes. > > There is a lot of single engine IFR flying here, so the rating is very > > useful on its own, rather than as a step to other ratings. It reall

Re: [Flightgear-devel] AIManager and AIBase

2005-04-22 Thread Dave Culp
> I intend to use FG as a "viewer". I have an application that manipulate > aircrafts, boats and more, and I'd like to see them living in a 3D world. > I saw that in FG there is an AIManager that can do what I want. If I've > understood its function, it manipulates AIBase objects which have a > pos

Re: [Flightgear-devel] YASim turbo/supercharger issues

2005-04-22 Thread Andy Ross
Vivian Meazza wrote: > That got me going. Are you trying to calculate the natural log of a > negative number (rpm_norm - 1)? Isn't that a complex number? Did you > mean: Yes, typo. Sorry. > If you do mean this equation then I can certainly live with that. If > not, I'll need to put my thinking c

Re: [Flightgear-devel] YASim turbo/supercharger issues

2005-04-22 Thread Andy Ross
Vivian Meazza wrote: > y = -0.25x3 + 0.15x2 + 1.11x > > Thinking about the over-speed situation overnight, the Merlin was > allowed to go to 3600 rpm for brief periods, and even then damage to > the engine was possible. This is a normalised value of 1.2. The K > Series will go to 9000 (don't try th

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Another fgfs enabled rating!

2005-04-22 Thread Martin Spott
Dave Perry wrote: > I passed my instrument rating oral and practical (check ride) this > afternoon. Five hours including the oral and ride. Wow, this is great. Hmmm, I feel I'm getting envious ;-) > [...] The examiner said I did an outstanding job given the > conditions. I flelt like I was a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Another fgfs enabled rating!

2005-04-22 Thread Erik Hofman
Dave Perry wrote: I passed my instrument rating oral and practical (check ride) this afternoon. Five hours including the oral and ride. Boy was I glad I had done many approaches with the turbulence turned up as all the approaches were in moderate turbulence today with 20 gust to 35 kts and wi

RE: [Flightgear-devel] YASim turbo/supercharger issues

2005-04-22 Thread Vivian Meazza
Andy Ross wrote: > Vivian Meazza wrote: > > I used the power form because it is easier to read, but if the other > > form produces a performance advantage, then of course we must use > > it. > > It's actually not so much about performance, really. Readability can > mean different things. The pr