[Flightgear-devel] GLUT dependencies ?

2005-05-04 Thread Martin Spott
Hello, I was under the impression that GLUT dependencies had been removed. It's not that I want to blame anyone, I'm just a bit surprised to realize that there actually _are_ dependencies - like this one: quickstep: 8:26:43 /usr/local/src/FlightGear make Making all in tests gcc -march=pentiumpro

RE: [Flightgear-devel] GLUT dependencies ?

2005-05-04 Thread Giles Robertson
I was under the impression that GLUT dependencies had been removed. It's not that I want to blame anyone, I'm just a bit surprised to realize that there actually _are_ dependencies - like this one: Glutless builds only work on fgfs itself; the tests and paraphernalia haven't been ported. If

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Tile sizes (was Re: SGBucket::sgBucketDiff fix)

2005-05-04 Thread Erik Hofman
Curtis L. Olson wrote: So my question is this ... what would people think of perhaps doubling the equatorial tile width, and then keeping the width of all tiles fixed to the same value at all latitudes. One *huge* bug that would be fixed is that we would eliminate the unsightly cracks at the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Tile sizes (was Re: SGBucket::sgBucketDiff fix)

2005-05-04 Thread Roman Grigoriev
- Original Message - From: Erik Hofman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FlightGear developers discussions flightgear-devel@flightgear.org Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 12:59 AM Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Tile sizes (was Re: SGBucket::sgBucketDiff fix) Curtis L. Olson wrote: So my

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Speed of CVS version and flying in theHimalayas

2005-05-04 Thread Paul Furber
On Tue, 2005-05-03 at 22:13 -0400, Chris Metzler wrote: On Tue, 03 May 2005 23:59:15 +0200 Paul Furber wrote: Flying WNW towards the summit in the Cessna. How in the world did you get the Cessna up there! From the command line :] fgfs --lat=87.001 --lon=28.001 --altitude=31000 The plane

Re: [Flightgear-devel] RFC: Eliminating jitter

2005-05-04 Thread Manuel Massing
Hello Erik, sorry for the late reply. I'm trying to get this included in CVS but it is a bit out of sync. yep, I'm really getting a bad conscience about posting an unsync'ed patch :-) I'm a bit busy at the moment, but I'll try to find some time to get the flightgear modifications sorted out

Re: [Flightgear-devel] RFC: Eliminating jitter

2005-05-04 Thread Erik Hofman
Manuel Massing wrote: Hello Erik, I'm trying to get this included in CVS but it is a bit out of sync. yep, I'm really getting a bad conscience about posting an unsync'ed patch :-) I'm a bit busy at the moment, but I'll try to find some time to get the flightgear modifications sorted out (if you

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Tile sizes (was Re: SGBucket::sgBucketDiff fix)

2005-05-04 Thread Erik Hofman
Roman Grigoriev wrote: Also I think we should use LOD shemes for tiles - it's easy to implement and we can use visibility up to 64 km w/o performance penalty. What approach would you suggest, a textured (incl. a normal map texture) quad, a simplified and textured tile or something different?

[Flightgear-devel] Re: CVS: FlightGear/src/Main fg_os.cxx,1.9,1.10

2005-05-04 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Melchior Franz -- Wednesday 04 May 2005 12:57: Log Message: open black window immediately. This doesn't only give useful feedback, it also allows to switch desktops shortly after starting fgfs without having the window pop up on the wrong virtual desktop. Because there's no

[Flightgear-devel] Re: CVS: FlightGear/src/Main fg_os.cxx,1.9,1.10

2005-05-04 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Melchior FRANZ -- Wednesday 04 May 2005 13:24: Because there's no glutDisplayFunc() callback routine, the black rectangle isn't redrawn on window resizing or after parts were covered by other windows. ... which is almost as annoying as the old behavior. Hmm ... guess I'll revert and keep

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Tile sizes (was Re: SGBucket::sgBucketDiff fix)

2005-05-04 Thread Roman Grigoriev
- Original Message - From: Erik Hofman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FlightGear developers discussions flightgear-devel@flightgear.org Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 3:51 AM Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Tile sizes (was Re: SGBucket::sgBucketDiff fix) Roman Grigoriev wrote: Also I think

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Tile sizes (was Re: SGBucket::sgBucketDiff fix)

2005-05-04 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 4 May 2005 16:12:46 -0700, Roman wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: - Original Message - From: Erik Hofman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FlightGear developers discussions flightgear-devel@flightgear.org Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 3:51 AM Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Tile

[Flightgear-devel] New JSBSim Newsletter posted

2005-05-04 Thread Jon Berndt
The Spring 2005 issue of Back of the Envelope has been posted at the JSBSim web site (www.jsbsim.org). This issue features lots of news on various projects that JSBSim (and FlightGear!) are being used. There is also an article on a new editor that is well into development - and editor that

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Speed of CVS version and flying in theHimalayas

2005-05-04 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 04 May 2005 11:26:54 +0200, Paul wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, 2005-05-03 at 22:13 -0400, Chris Metzler wrote: On Tue, 03 May 2005 23:59:15 +0200 Paul Furber wrote: Flying WNW towards the summit in the Cessna. How in the world did you get the Cessna up

[Flightgear-devel] need to see where we are;

2005-05-04 Thread eagle monart
hi all i want to take a part in fg developmnt. but i ve few questions about whts going on. i searched in passed archives but need to knpw todays goals and development. there is no other source so i would appreciated if you send me info or forward me to a link 1) when we are flyng in a jet in

Re: [Flightgear-devel] need to see where we are;

2005-05-04 Thread Gerard ROBIN
eagle monart a écrit : hi all i want to take a part in fg developmnt. but i ve few questions about whts going on. i searched in passed archives but need to knpw todays goals and development. there is no other source so i would appreciated if you send me info or forward me to a link 1) when

[Flightgear-devel] opening window splash screen

2005-05-04 Thread Melchior FRANZ
I'd like to suggest the following change: http://members.aon.at/mfranz/splash.diff http://members.aon.at/mfranz/splash-w.diff (same as first patch, but taken with -w option; i.e. without white-space changes, to please reviewers :-) The effect: - window/splash image

Re: [Flightgear-devel] opening window splash screen

2005-05-04 Thread Curtis L. Olson
I like the idea. One problem on the windows platform is lack of feedback from the graphical launcher that anything happened when you clicked run. It's easy to click run a couple times and end up with 5 copies of FG running (which start to come up after about 20 minutes of HD thrashing.) If

Re: [Flightgear-devel] opening window splash screen

2005-05-04 Thread Erik Hofman
Melchior FRANZ wrote: Objection deadline ends in 10 minutes! ;-) This doesn't look too bad to me. Erik ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: opening window splash screen

2005-05-04 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Melchior FRANZ wrote: * Curtis L. Olson -- Wednesday 04 May 2005 22:44: I like the idea. One problem on the windows platform is lack of feedback from the graphical launcher that anything happened when you clicked run. It's easy to click run a couple times and end up with 5 copies of FG

[Flightgear-devel] Re: opening window splash screen

2005-05-04 Thread Melchior FRANZ
Oh, forgot to mention: the only (minor) problem is, that some parts of the initialization take rather long, so if you switch to another desktop and back, it may take some seconds until the screen is refreshed. I thought about putting two or three fgSplashUpdate(1.0); into fgNavInit() (which takes

Re: [Flightgear-devel] opening window splash screen

2005-05-04 Thread James Turner
On 4 May 2005, at 21:39, Melchior FRANZ wrote:It opens the window (with splash image if configured) as soon as possible, and does all the other initializaion in the idle loop, split up into appropriate chunks. The patch does basically only shuffle parts around, without changing the order of

[Flightgear-devel] Re: opening window splash screen

2005-05-04 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* James Turner -- Wednesday 04 May 2005 23:14: Minor partial objection - the Mac startup is dog slow (like 90 seconds to get to a usable plane in the C172 and SFO), and I think at least part of the problem is the 'init while idle' scheme - FG wastes too much time doing rendering type

[Flightgear-devel] Re: need to see where we are; (Gerard ROBIN)

2005-05-04 Thread eagle monart
1) when we are flyng in a jet in jsb , turbinr function reflects real world functionality. what are the holes to be fiiled. 2) are there anybody working on flight computer ? f-16 flies like crazy horse where i can find real f-16 detailed flight comp functionality to import in fg? 3)

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: opening window splash screen

2005-05-04 Thread David Luff
On 04/05/2005 at 23:40 Melchior FRANZ wrote: * James Turner -- Wednesday 04 May 2005 23:14: Minor partial objection - the Mac startup is dog slow (like 90 seconds to get to a usable plane in the C172 and SFO), and I think at least part of the problem is the 'init while idle' scheme - FG

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: opening window splash screen

2005-05-04 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Melchior FRANZ wrote: * James Turner -- Wednesday 04 May 2005 23:14: Minor partial objection - the Mac startup is dog slow (like 90 seconds to get to a usable plane in the C172 and SFO), and I think at least part of the problem is the 'init while idle' scheme - FG wastes too much time