Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: old 3d clouds code

2005-06-14 Thread Mathias Fröhlich
On Montag 13 Juni 2005 11:03, Melchior FRANZ wrote: Probably a good idea. The old code is broken, unmaintained, and uses nasty binary cloud definition files, while the new code yields much better results (except when flying through clouds). The old code may be more advanced in some respect

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Colditz Glider

2005-06-14 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On June 6, 2005 06:44 pm, Josh Babcock wrote: Well, take a look at what I put in, no wires, though I could do that with about zero trouble if people think it would add to the model. Personally I don't think it would add much though. Also I think the bar I put in there is pretty sensible. Now

[Flightgear-devel] Re: Re: [Terragear-devel] Land data differences?

2005-06-14 Thread Pigeon
Yeah... Also, the thing is I'm planning to create sceneries and models for Hong Kong, and possibly some Taiwan and Sydney. I found multimap pretty useful. I suppose I work on them based on FG's official sceneries. So, back to my original poblem, does anyone know what data is used for

Re: [Flightgear-devel] poll

2005-06-14 Thread Erik Hofman
Gerard Robin wrote: The new 3D clouds are a good exemple of programming ressource, which could be used to simulate random waves ( i will get god lightnings or rather devil fires, if i continu in that way ). What I was referring to was moving masses of water. Simulating water sparkles is

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: old 3d clouds code

2005-06-14 Thread Erik Hofman
Mathias Fröhlich wrote: So the last thing I remembered was that flying through clouds was much better with the old code. The new clouds seem to be afraid from an aircraft. They just move out of the flight path. As a result you almost never fly through clouds. Is this still the case? Nope.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] poll

2005-06-14 Thread Erik Hofman
Ampere K. Hardraade wrote: Water isn't the only other material that should be modelled. There are also other materials such as grass and soil. Right now, I can take a short cut across the grass in any airport without concern, and these sort of behaviours should bring some consequences. =)

RE: [Flightgear-devel] OpenAL for CygWin

2005-06-14 Thread Norman Vine
I have placed a compiled tarball of yesterdays OpenAL CVS files @ http://www.vso.cape.com/~nhv/files/cygwin/cyg_openAL.tgz you might want to test these against the current FGFS before blindly overwriting your currrent installation Norman ___

Re: [Flightgear-devel] poll

2005-06-14 Thread Gerard Robin
Le mardi 14 juin 2005 10:13 +0200, Erik Hofman a crit : Ampere K. Hardraade wrote: Water isn't the only other material that should be modelled. There are also other materials such as grass and soil. Right now, I can take a short cut across the grass in any airport without concern,

[Flightgear-devel] Metar connection unavalable = very long time for loading FG

2005-06-14 Thread Gerard Robin
When the connection to Metar is unavailable (loop of requests on the net), FG loads only after about 2 minutes. Is it possible to reduce it. It only happen with CVS release, 9-8 is good (no response, go on) -- Gerard ___ Flightgear-devel mailing

Re: [Flightgear-devel] poll

2005-06-14 Thread Josh Babcock
Ampere K. Hardraade wrote: Water isn't the only other material that should be modelled. There are also other materials such as grass and soil. Right now, I can take a short cut across the grass in any airport without concern, and these sort of behaviours should bring some consequences. =)

RE: [Flightgear-devel] OpenAL for CygWin

2005-06-14 Thread Jon Berndt
I have placed a compiled tarball of yesterdays OpenAL CVS files @ http://www.vso.cape.com/~nhv/files/cygwin/cyg_openAL.tgz you might want to test these against the current FGFS before blindly overwriting your currrent installation Is this distribution modified for use with CygWin as

Re: [Flightgear-devel] poll

2005-06-14 Thread Erik Hofman
Gerard Robin wrote: Le mardi 14 juin 2005 à 10:13 +0200, Erik Hofman a écrit : Ampere K. Hardraade wrote: Water isn't the only other material that should be modelled. There are also other materials such as grass and soil. Right now, I can take a short cut across the grass in any airport

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Metar connection unavalable = very long time for loading FG

2005-06-14 Thread Erik Hofman
Gerard Robin wrote: When the connection to Metar is unavailable (loop of requests on the net), FG loads only after about 2 minutes. Is it possible to reduce it. It only happen with CVS release, 9-8 is good (no response, go on) I've looked at it very briefly the past week and couldn't find

Re: [Flightgear-devel] OpenAL for CygWin

2005-06-14 Thread Erik Hofman
Jon Berndt wrote: I have placed a compiled tarball of yesterdays OpenAL CVS files @ http://www.vso.cape.com/~nhv/files/cygwin/cyg_openAL.tgz you might want to test these against the current FGFS before blindly overwriting your currrent installation Is this distribution modified for use with

[Flightgear-devel] New turbo/supercharger code

2005-06-14 Thread Andy Ross
Vivan Meazza wrote (in a CVS checkin): I've removed all the features that rely on the diff to YASim that I posted recently, I don't expect any reaction from Andy any time soon! I feel a bit inclined to remind him of his rant against Cygwin recently. I'm willing to be favourably surprised.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Hurricane

2005-06-14 Thread AJ MacLeod (email lists)
On Monday 13 Jun 2005 15:14, Vivian Meazza wrote: There remains some more eye-candy to do: nav lights, beam approach marker lamps, realistic rad and oil temperature readings etc. In the meantime I would be grateful for any comments, not least that it all downloads and installs correctly!

Re: [Flightgear-devel] poll

2005-06-14 Thread Gerard Robin
Le mardi 14 juin 2005 16:13 +0200, Erik Hofman a crit : Gerard Robin wrote: Le mardi 14 juin 2005 10:13 +0200, Erik Hofman a crit : Ampere K. Hardraade wrote: Water isn't the only other material that should be modelled. There are also other materials such as grass and soil. Right

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Metar connection unavalable = very long time for loading FG

2005-06-14 Thread Gerard Robin
Le mardi 14 juin 2005 16:14 +0200, Erik Hofman a crit : Gerard Robin wrote: When the connection to Metar is unavailable (loop of requests on the net), FG loads only after about 2 minutes. Is it possible to reduce it. It only happen with CVS release, 9-8 is good (no response, go on)

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Colditz Glider

2005-06-14 Thread Steve Hosgood
On Sat, 2005-06-04 at 00:42, Josh Babcock wrote: OK, model's done, same address. Now I'm going to do the animation XML. If I'm really cool I'll be able to make the wind ribbon look good. Otherwise, just controls and control surfaces. Also, I didn't know what the rudder pedals looked like, so

Re: [Flightgear-devel] poll

2005-06-14 Thread Erik Hofman
Gerard Robin wrote: If you think some numbers are (way) off, please sent corrections to me. Most numbers where rough estimates without any testing. OK, don't you think it could be rather an open discussion? It would, if the rest of us could test it, but at this point you seem to be the

[Flightgear-devel] Re: Metar connection unavalable = very long time for loading FG

2005-06-14 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Gerard Robin -- Tuesday 14 June 2005 18:16: Gerard Robin wrote: When the connection to Metar is unavailable (loop of requests on the net), FG loads only after about 2 minutes. i have tried directly the Metar command and i got immediately an answer with the real Weather of the same

Re: [Flightgear-devel] poll

2005-06-14 Thread Gerard Robin
Le mardi 14 juin 2005 18:24 +0200, Erik Hofman a crit : Gerard Robin wrote: If you think some numbers are (way) off, please sent corrections to me. Most numbers where rough estimates without any testing. OK, don't you think it could be rather an open discussion? It would, if the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] poll

2005-06-14 Thread Gerard Robin
Le mardi 14 juin 2005 18:24 +0200, Erik Hofman a crit : Gerard Robin wrote: If you think some numbers are (way) off, please sent corrections to me. Most numbers where rough estimates without any testing. OK, don't you think it could be rather an open discussion? It would, if the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Colditz Glider

2005-06-14 Thread Josh Babcock
Steve Hosgood wrote: On Sat, 2005-06-04 at 00:42, Josh Babcock wrote: OK, model's done, same address. Now I'm going to do the animation XML. If I'm really cool I'll be able to make the wind ribbon look good. Otherwise, just controls and control surfaces. Also, I didn't know what the rudder

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Metar connection unavalable = very long time for loading FG

2005-06-14 Thread Josh Babcock
Melchior FRANZ wrote: * Gerard Robin -- Tuesday 14 June 2005 18:16: Gerard Robin wrote: When the connection to Metar is unavailable (loop of requests on the net), FG loads only after about 2 minutes. i have tried directly the Metar command and i got immediately an answer with the real

Re: [Flightgear-devel] poll

2005-06-14 Thread Gerard Robin
Le mardi 14 juin 2005 19:17 +0200, Gerard Robin a crit : Le mardi 14 juin 2005 18:24 +0200, Erik Hofman a crit : Gerard Robin wrote: If you think some numbers are (way) off, please sent corrections to me. Most numbers where rough estimates without any testing. OK, don't you

[Flightgear-devel] Important Notice to Aircraft Designers: Electrical system updates.

2005-06-14 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Aircraft Designers: If you are an aircraft designer, especially one that maintains aircraft outside of the FlightGear CVS system, please read this notice carefully! Please feel free to ask questions if something here is not 100% clear. I am about to commit round one of my electrical system

Re: [Flightgear-devel] poll

2005-06-14 Thread Jon Stockill
Gerard Robin wrote: Sand MINE rolling-friction2.O/rolling-friction bumpiness0.1/bumpiness Sand FG rolling-friction0.1/rolling-friction bumpiness0.1/bumpiness That may make sense for a sea plane with floats, but it doesn't make sense for an

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Completely OT (but aviation related.)

2005-06-14 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 03:50:18 +0200, Arnt wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 13:39:21 -0500, Curtis wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:14:09 -0500, Curtis wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Completely OT (but aviation related.)

2005-06-14 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Arnt Karlsen wrote: ..duh, you bought the Sullivan generator for $79! ;o) http://www.sullivanproducts.com/GenesysContent.htm Yes, I'm hoping I can rig up an onboard power system based on the genesys. For what I'll be doing, batteries would work fine too, but I thought it would be an

Re: [Flightgear-devel] poll

2005-06-14 Thread Erik Hofman
Jon Stockill wrote: Gerard Robin wrote: Sand MINE rolling-friction2.O/rolling-friction bumpiness0.1/bumpiness Sand FG rolling-friction0.1/rolling-friction bumpiness0.1/bumpiness That may make sense for a sea plane with floats, but it doesn't

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Completely OT (but aviation related.)

2005-06-14 Thread Jon Stockill
Curtis L. Olson wrote: I was curious about the idea of removing the case from my Linksys WRT54G wireless router and powering that by battery. Supposedly it's running linux and is hackable, but I haven't played around with trying to hack into it yet. How much space do you actually have?

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Completely OT (but aviation related.)

2005-06-14 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Jon Stockill wrote: How much space do you actually have? Would a nano-itx or even mini-itx board fit? With one of those you could use a USB wireless interface, giving you flexibility to position it for best signal (radome style bulge under the aircraft? :-) Construction pictures here:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Completely OT (but aviation related.)

2005-06-14 Thread Jon Stockill
Curtis L. Olson wrote: anything. I'm just going to move forward slowly one step at a time and ignore most of the bright ideas from the mailing list. :-) Probably a wise move :-) Jon ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list

RE: [Flightgear-devel] New turbo/supercharger code

2005-06-14 Thread Vivian Meazza
Andy Ross wrote Vivian Meazza wrote (in a CVS checkin): I've removed all the features that rely on the diff to YASim that I posted recently, I don't expect any reaction from Andy any time soon! I feel a bit inclined to remind him of his rant against Cygwin recently. I'm willing to be

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Hurricane

2005-06-14 Thread Vivian Meazza
AJ MacLeod wrote On Monday 13 Jun 2005 15:14, Vivian Meazza wrote: There remains some more eye-candy to do: nav lights, beam approach marker lamps, realistic rad and oil temperature readings etc. In the meantime I would be grateful for any comments, not least that it all downloads and

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Hurricane

2005-06-14 Thread AJ MacLeod (email lists)
On Tuesday 14 Jun 2005 22:57, Vivian Meazza wrote: Is this in roll only? The ailerons are much more powerful, but also damped. There shouldn't be any rapid movement in the ailerons, but the stick reflects the input. Look at the ailerons in an external view - are they jumping around too? Yes

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Completely OT (but aviation related.)

2005-06-14 Thread Gene Buckle
Jon Stockill wrote: Curtis L. Olson wrote: I was curious about the idea of removing the case from my Linksys WRT54G wireless router and powering that by battery. Supposedly it's running linux and is hackable, but I haven't played around with trying to hack into it yet. How much space do

[Flightgear-devel] Gear jitter

2005-06-14 Thread Jon Berndt
I was looking at the gear jitter in the latest version of FlightGear with the current C172 (JSBSim). I didn't notice much jitter at all - really very little. Is that because winds are off by default, now? Is there a particular setup where I can see it most noticeably? I have a possible fix that

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Gear jitter

2005-06-14 Thread Gerard Robin
Le mardi 14 juin 2005 20:25 -0500, Jon Berndt a crit : I was looking at the gear jitter in the latest version of FlightGear with the current C172 (JSBSim). I didn't notice much jitter at all - really very little. Is that because winds are off by default, now? Is there a particular setup

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Completely OT (but aviation related.)

2005-06-14 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:40:23 -0500, Curtis wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Arnt Karlsen wrote: ..duh, you bought the Sullivan generator for $79! ;o) http://www.sullivanproducts.com/GenesysContent.htm Yes, I'm hoping I can rig up an onboard power system based on the genesys. For