Re: [Flightgear-devel] Fokker 100 3D model

2003-07-17 Thread Erik Hofman
Jim Wilson wrote: Are you using ac3d or blender? ac3d. Ah ok. The tips helped a lot: http://www.a1.nl/~ehofman/fgfs/gallery/fokker/ It's starting to look quite good now. Erik ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Fokker 100 3D model

2003-07-17 Thread Jim Wilson
Norman Vine [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Erik Hofman writes: http://www.a1.nl/~ehofman/fgfs/gallery/fokker/ It's starting to look quite good now. Coming along nicely This is really going to be a nice one. nit It is hard to tell but it almost looks as if there is something going

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Fokker 100 3D model

2003-07-17 Thread Martin Spott
Norman Vine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is hard to tell but it almost looks as if there is something going on with the normals on the wing panels. ie the shaddowing doesn't quite seem consistant with that on the fusalage. I've seen similar effects with FlightGear in the past - after

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Fokker 100 3D model

2003-07-17 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On 16 Jul 2003 18:11:06 +0100, Christopher S Horler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: An alternative reason for keeping it is the KLM stewardesses ..you shag 'em using FG??? ;-) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;-) ...with a number of polar bear

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Fokker 100 3D model

2003-07-17 Thread Erik Hofman
Jim Wilson wrote: I'd guess that there are 2 sided polys in there. Look at the whiteness on the wing root (in the shaded area) and what should be the shaded side of the tail here: http://www.a1.nl/~ehofman/fgfs/gallery/fokker/002.jpg You know what, I had to flip the normals on the horizontal

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Fokker 100 3D model

2003-07-16 Thread Jim Wilson
Erik Hofman [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Ha, this is the result of three days of practicing for a 3d model of a fokker 100 (and the aeromatic model to match): http://www.a1.nl/~ehofman/fgfs/gallery/fokker/ Erik http://www.rekkof.nl/fokker100/index_fokker_100.htm It looks like you've got

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Fokker 100 3D model

2003-07-16 Thread Erik Hofman
Jim Wilson wrote: Erik Hofman said: Ha, this is the result of three days of practicing for a 3d model of a fokker 100 (and the aeromatic model to match): http://www.a1.nl/~ehofman/fgfs/gallery/fokker/ It looks like you've got the shape worked out correctly. Very nice! There are still some

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Fokker 100 3D model

2003-07-16 Thread Christopher S Horler
An alternative reason for keeping it is the KLM stewardesses (at least the last time I went on a Fokker 100 I was suitably impressed). I don't really agree with the article...that's why I had to find alternative reasoning:-) Although my standpoint has a strong degree of bias. The model is

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Fokker 100 3D model

2003-07-16 Thread Erik Hofman
Christopher S Horler wrote: An alternative reason for keeping it is the KLM stewardesses (at least the last time I went on a Fokker 100 I was suitably impressed). I don't really agree with the article...that's why I had to find alternative reasoning:-) Although my standpoint has a strong degree

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Fokker 100 3D model

2003-07-16 Thread David Megginson
Erik Hofman writes: I am probably a bit biased too, but maybe I can convince some others by explaining that the MD-80 is basically a Fokker 100 before the split between McDonnel Douglas and Fokker and the Fokker 100 is produced for the American marked by Fairchild. I always thought

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Fokker 100 3D model

2003-07-16 Thread Jim Wilson
Erik Hofman [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Jim Wilson wrote: Erik Hofman said: There are still some weir artifacts I can't explain. First there's the black tail (??) And if you look carefully you also see there are sections that don't fit nicely to the rest (the shading differs, for example

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Fokker 100 3D model

2003-07-16 Thread Erik Hofman
David Megginson wrote: Erik Hofman writes: I am probably a bit biased too, but maybe I can convince some others by explaining that the MD-80 is basically a Fokker 100 before the split between McDonnel Douglas and Fokker and the Fokker 100 is produced for the American marked by

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Fokker 100 3D model

2003-07-16 Thread Erik Hofman
Jim Wilson wrote: Ah ok. In that case select the tail object, and on object menu, optimize vertices and surfaces. Triangulate anything that has a concave surface (surface menu?). If its still black there after that check to see if there are any vertices that don't belong. Select invidiual or

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Fokker 100 3D model

2003-07-16 Thread Erik Hofman
Erik Hofman wrote: There was a need for a replacement of the DC-9 and that's where Fokker and McDonnell Douglas teamed up. The Fokker 100 is a derived of the Fokker 28 which needed to be replaced also. I don't know the details of why they didn't continue but the MD-80 is and Fokker 100 share