Re: [Flightgear-devel] ATC Talk

2003-12-30 Thread Matthew Law
I agree with you totally. My sentiment was that there have also been many accidents caused by ATC talking in a foreign language (English) to another pilot who also doesn't speak English as a first language. The possible problems which can be introduced by a conversation in effect being

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ATC Talk

2003-12-30 Thread David Megginson
Matthew Law wrote: I agree with you totally. My sentiment was that there have also been many accidents caused by ATC talking in a foreign language (English) to another pilot who also doesn't speak English as a first language. That can often be a problem between a controller and pilot who *do*

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ATC Talk

2003-12-30 Thread Martin Spott
David Megginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matthew Law wrote: I agree with you totally. My sentiment was that there have also been many accidents caused by ATC talking in a foreign language (English) to another pilot who also doesn't speak English as a first language. That can often be

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ATC Talk

2003-12-30 Thread David Megginson
Martin Spott wrote: Do you have to pass an exam on the north American continent for operating the radio ? In Germay we have to own the Restricted Flight Radiotelephone Operator's Certificate (this is _not_ my translation, it's printed on the certificate itself :-) _before_ you are allowed to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ATC Talk

2003-12-30 Thread Matevz Jekovec
Ivo wrote: On Monday 29 December 2003 00:48, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One question, do we allready have an ATC text file with all the necessary ATC talk sentences and airport names so that someone who can speak english quite well can record them to *.wav files? Or we

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ATC Talk

2003-12-30 Thread kreuzritter2000
On Tuesday 30 December 2003 17:50, Matevz Jekovec wrote: Heh, besides, you'll have English with Slovenian accent when entering Slovenian airspace, is that cool or what! :). - Matevz Yes, that sounds great. :) Best Regards, Oliver C. ___

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ATC Talk

2003-12-29 Thread Matthew Law
On 03:15 Mon 29 Dec , Ivo wrote: Or we could have multiple people around the world recording the sentences, so we'll hear the right accent when approaching for example New Delhi or Mexico City or Frankfurt. Maybe even bilingual, though I don't know if they use their native language (for

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ATC Talk

2003-12-29 Thread David Megginson
Matthew Law wrote: According to the ICAO, all ATC comms should be in English. Quite rightly however, most controllers use their native tongue unless talking to international flights. Actually, I think that's a serious problem. One of the benefits of using a common ATC frequency (instead of

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ATC Talk

2003-12-29 Thread Martin Spott
Ivo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or we could have multiple people around the world recording the sentences, so we'll hear the right accent when approaching for example New Delhi or Mexico City or Frankfurt. I think that I won't approach Frankfurt within the next years but theoretically it

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ATC Talk

2003-12-29 Thread David Luff
Matthew Law writes: On 03:15 Mon 29 Dec , Ivo wrote: Or we could have multiple people around the world recording the sentences, so we'll hear the right accent when approaching for example New Delhi or Mexico City or Frankfurt. Maybe even bilingual, though I don't know if they use

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ATC Talk

2003-12-29 Thread David Luff
On 12/29/03 at 2:34 PM Martin Spott wrote: Ivo wrote: Or we could have multiple people around the world recording the sentences, so we'll hear the right accent when approaching for example New Delhi or Mexico City or Frankfurt. I think that I won't approach Frankfurt within the next years

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ATC Talk

2003-12-29 Thread Paul Surgeon
On Monday, 29 December 2003 18:35, David Luff wrote: Ugh, what's the copyright situation as regards using recordings from the airwaves? I wouldn't even bother wasting my time trying to use real recordings. - You need controlled recordings - voices that deliberately have very little

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ATC Talk

2003-12-29 Thread Paul Surgeon
On Monday, 29 December 2003 19:51, David Luff wrote: As for recording the stuff, currently we're limited to 8bit, 8KHz, mono, at which setting the voice is noticably deteriorated in quality. I believe that Bernie is working on improved sound support, so it might be worth mastering and editing

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ATC Talk

2003-12-29 Thread Andy Ross
Paul Surgeon wrote: Why are we using wave files in the first place? Yes I know that they don't require decompression which saves CPU cycles but Ogg Vorbis compression is excellent and it's GPL. No reason. Someone needs to do the work to integrate plib (which provides our sound loader) with

RE: [Flightgear-devel] ATC Talk

2003-12-29 Thread Norman Vine
Andy Ross writes: An even better addition would be libjpeg integration for texture files. I doubt if that will ever happen http://sjbaker.org/steve/omniv/jpegs_are_evil_too.html But I agree we shoul dbe using texture compression Best would be a OpenGL supported format like S3TC but older

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ATC Talk

2003-12-29 Thread Paul Surgeon
On Monday, 29 December 2003 20:59, Norman Vine wrote: But just switching to PNG would make a substantial reduction in the package size and would not add much to the load time The PNG compression is not as good (size wise) as jpg but it's lossless which is great were we need to retain original

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ATC Talk

2003-12-29 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 19:48:10 +0200, Paul Surgeon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Monday, 29 December 2003 18:35, David Luff wrote: Ugh, what's the copyright situation as regards using recordings from the airwaves? ..wherever banned, that's moot. ;-) I wouldn't

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ATC Talk

2003-12-29 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 21:28:22 +0200, Paul Surgeon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Monday, 29 December 2003 20:59, Norman Vine wrote: But just switching to PNG would make a substantial reduction in the package size and would not add much to the load time The PNG

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ATC Talk

2003-12-28 Thread Ivo
On Monday 29 December 2003 00:48, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One question, do we allready have an ATC text file with all the necessary ATC talk sentences and airport names so that someone who can speak english quite well can record them to *.wav files? Or we could have multiple people around