RE: [Flightgear-devel] plib can't find GL/gl.h

2002-02-12 Thread Richard Bytheway
I seem to remember that Cygwin does, or used to, leave the OpenGL headers in a tar.gz file in the root cygwin directory, which you then need to unpack manually. There is a readme in there as well explaining why, I can't remember the reason off the top of my head. Richard -Original

AW: [Flightgear-devel] plib can't find GL/gl.h

2002-02-12 Thread Michael Basler
Dear Richard, I seem to remember that Cygwin does, or used to, leave the OpenGL headers in a tar.gz file in the root cygwin directory, which you then need to unpack manually. There is a readme in there as well explaining why, I can't remember the reason off the top of my head. I did a

[Flightgear-devel] [BUG] JSBSim: sudden plane crashes

2002-02-12 Thread Melchior FRANZ
This has already been reported, but there's obviously no solution yet: The JSB-c310 crashes quite frequently during 'normal' flight. Sometimes it starts to accelerate to supersonic speeds or to spin around the transversal axis for one second, after which it crashes. fgfs just reports 182:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Time Options Not Working

2002-02-12 Thread Erik Hofman
Curtis L. Olson wrote: Erik Hofman writes: There is deffinately a problem with the time code. Speeding up or slowing down time (T or SHIFT+T) doesn't work anymore. This must have soemthing to do with Curtis's new time changes as of Feb. 10th, because before that change it all worked well.

[Flightgear-devel] key bindings

2002-02-12 Thread Michael Basler
First: While updading documentation (Getting Started/Short reference) I acknowledged the effort of having keyboard.xml now (instead of the former mess in input.cxx). Could we remove the remaining very few bindings, too...? Question: What the heck is Ctrl-R = Toggle winding-ccw? Remark: Couldn't

Re: [Flightgear-devel] for the upcoming release

2002-02-12 Thread D Luff
Curtis L. Olson writes: Here's my list of things that have been changed, fixed, or added for 0.7.9. It's rather long, but if anyone sees any major ommissions or errors in this list, please let me know. Thanks. * Fixed a bug preventing the LaRCsim engine from starting. This fixes a bug

[Flightgear-devel] Goto airport bug.

2002-02-12 Thread Martin Dressler
On Debian unstable,kde2,nvidia compiled without problems. I found some problems when start on default airport make short fly and landing and then use Enviroment/Goto airport in menu. When I try my local airport LKPR (on east side of earth) sim restart with bell upside. Regards, MaDr New for

[Flightgear-devel] Time offset still not working as before

2002-02-12 Thread D Luff
With an update of simgear/flightgear/base from cvs a few minutes age, time offset still appears to be broken, although it appears to be behaving slightly differently. (Broken from initialisation, instead of from the first lighting update). I believe that starting mid-morning from my local

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Navaid bug?

2002-02-12 Thread D Luff
John Check writes: On Monday 11 February 2002 11:58 am, you wrote: The frequency on nav1 appears to influence the to/from flag on both vor1 and vor2. I assume that this is a bug? Cheers - Dave What plane, what panel? TTYL J Default C172 but I see you've fixed it now :-) Cheers -

[Flightgear-devel] Problem with help system

2002-02-12 Thread Michael Basler
There seems to be a minor problem with the help system in the recent CVS version. After proper editing, webrun.bat, when invoked manually, opens Internet Explorer with the index.html page as it should. However from within the program's help menu I get Help started in Netscape window and nothing

[Flightgear-devel] warning: suggest parentheses around assignment used as truth value

2002-02-12 Thread D Luff
In net_send.cxx, in NetworkOLK, we have the following at line 262: if (host_info = gethostbyname( src_host)) { at line 270: if (host_info = gethostbyname( fgd_host)) { and at line 298: if (host_info = gethostbyname( fgd_host_check)) { Surely these are mistakes? Cheers - Dave --

Re: [Flightgear-devel] for the upcoming release

2002-02-12 Thread Christian Mayer
Curtis L. Olson wrote: Here's my list of things that have been changed, fixed, or added for 0.7.9. It's rather long, but if anyone sees any major ommissions or errors in this list, please let me know. Thanks. [...] Nice list. OTOH I don't know any missed items. But the bullets (i.e. the

[Flightgear-devel] Metakit

2002-02-12 Thread Christian Mayer
Hi, metakit still lives in the CVS tree (+ as an additional zip archive there). Is that OK? I thought it's supposed to be kept extra. CU, Christian -- The idea is to die young as late as possible.-- Ashley Montague Whoever that is/was; (c) by Douglas Adams would have been better...

[Flightgear-devel] Latest CVS doesn't run

2002-02-12 Thread Christian Mayer
Hi, the latest version (updated everything, incl. base) doesn't run for me (MSVC as usual) as it's hooked up in an endless loop in cloud.cxx again. I thought we had that fixed already :( Can anybody remember the patch? CU, Christian -- The idea is to die young as late as possible.--

[Flightgear-devel] DC-3, textured

2002-02-12 Thread David Megginson
After some difficulty, I figured out how to get textured models from Blender 2.23 into FlightGear (using a slightly-modified version of Willian P. Germano's Python-based export script to .ac format). Here are some 800x600 screenshots of the DC-3 over KSFO just before dawn, using a dummy outline

re: [Flightgear-devel] [BUG] JSBSim: sudden plane crashes

2002-02-12 Thread David Megginson
Melchior FRANZ writes: This can reliably be reproduced as follows: Start the c310 (fgfs --aircraft=c310) and climb at, let's say, 1000 ft, then abruptly push the stick forward (pitch down; Elevator Cmd = 1). JSBout310.csv shows extreme and extremely alternating values for forces and

RE: [Flightgear-devel] DC-3, textured

2002-02-12 Thread BERNDT, JON S. (JON) (JSC-EX) (LM)
A worthy aircraft to model (the DC-3): http://www.douglasdc3.com/amaze/amaze.htm Jon ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel

re: [Flightgear-devel] [BUG] JSBSim: sudden plane crashes

2002-02-12 Thread jsb
Melchior FRANZ writes: This can reliably be reproduced as follows: Start the c310 (fgfs --aircraft=c310) and climb at, let's say, 1000 ft, then abruptly push the stick forward (pitch down; Elevator Cmd = 1). JSBout310.csv shows extreme and extremely alternating values for forces

Re: [Flightgear-devel] warning: suggest parentheses around assignment used as truth value

2002-02-12 Thread Curtis L. Olson
gethostbyname() returns NULL if an error occured. Expressions such as (a = b + c) evaluate to whatever value is assigned to a so we can do things like if ( a = b + c ) { // a != 0 } else { // a == 0 } This is a little tricky, so if gethostbyname() fails, host_info will be assigned a value

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Metakit

2002-02-12 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Christian Mayer writes: metakit still lives in the CVS tree (+ as an additional zip archive there). Is that OK? I thought it's supposed to be kept extra. Looking at the actual repository, I only see the metakit and zlib tar balls. The unrolled subdirectories have been removed. What cvs

Re: [Flightgear-devel] warning: suggest parentheses around assignment used as truth value

2002-02-12 Thread Christian Mayer
Curtis L. Olson wrote: That said, the entire NetworkOLK module is only half implimented, and not really useful at this point. We really need someone to come along and finish it, or perhaps reimpliment this functionality from scratch using the plib networking libs. Please use the PLIB

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Control inputs still initialised strangely

2002-02-12 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Is there anything strange in your .fgfsrc or system.fgfsrc files? D Luff writes: I've just checked out a completely clean base, simgear and flightgear, and it is still starting up with full left aileron and full down elevator. Is there really no-one else seeing this? The full down

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Control inputs still initialised strangely

2002-02-12 Thread Erik Hofman
D Luff wrote: I've just checked out a completely clean base, simgear and flightgear, and it is still starting up with full left aileron and full down elevator. Is there really no-one else seeing this? Not at start, it happens to me (sometimes) when changing view three times. Then suddenly

Re: [Flightgear-devel] warning: suggest parentheses around assignment used as truth value

2002-02-12 Thread D Luff
Curtis L. Olson writes: gethostbyname() returns NULL if an error occured. Expressions such as (a = b + c) evaluate to whatever value is assigned to a so we can do things like if ( a = b + c ) { // a != 0 } else { // a == 0 } This is a little tricky, so if gethostbyname()

RE: [Flightgear-devel] DC-3, textured

2002-02-12 Thread David Megginson
BERNDT, JON S. (JON) (JSC-EX) (LM) writes: A worthy aircraft to model (the DC-3): http://www.douglasdc3.com/amaze/amaze.htm It is. When I was helping design a documentation system at the old Douglas operation in Long Beach, nearly everyone at some point mentioned to me that there were

[Flightgear-devel] Re: Control inputs still initialised strangely

2002-02-12 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* D Luff -- Tuesday 12 February 2002 15:46: I've just checked out a completely clean base, simgear and flightgear, and it is still starting up with full left aileron and full down elevator. Is there really no-one else seeing this? Never seen that. (Linux 2.4.17/gcc 2.95.2) What about fgfs

Re: [Flightgear-devel] checkout breakage

2002-02-12 Thread Alex Perry
Alex Perry writes: As of right now, the script that used to ground-start now fails with a terrain intersection error immediately after the aircraft bounces on the gear and then departs to never-never land. A flight-start works ok, except that left clicks on the instruments are ignored

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [BUG] JSBSim: sudden plane crashes

2002-02-12 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Tuesday 12 February 2002 16:00: Is this still present with the newer JSBSim code/files? With the JSBSim version from the fgfs-cvs, yes. (The files were IIRC updated yesterday.) m. ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Control inputs still initialised strangely

2002-02-12 Thread D Luff
Curtis L. Olson writes: Is there anything strange in your .fgfsrc or system.fgfsrc files? I don't have a .fgfsrc or a system.fgfsrc file anywhere on my computer. Should I? Cheers - Dave -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Control inputs still initialised strangely

2002-02-12 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Only if you want to override default values ... did you try the --trace option to see where the values where getting set and to what values? Curt. D Luff writes: Curtis L. Olson writes: Is there anything strange in your .fgfsrc or system.fgfsrc files? I don't have a .fgfsrc or a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Time offset still not working as before

2002-02-12 Thread D Luff
Curtis L. Olson writes: The time parser is expecting something like -8:00:00 (note : not .) My fault - I'm not keeping up!! It seems to work OK with the correctly formated parameter. Cheers - Dave -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Flightgear-devel

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Control inputs still initialised strangely

2002-02-12 Thread D Luff
Melchior FRANZ writes: What about fgfs --trace-write=/controls/aileron? (Watch for TRACE: ... lines, or filter through '21|grep TRACE'.) Does the aileron already start with wrong values from the very beginning? OK, during initialisation, the following is output:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Metakit

2002-02-12 Thread Christian Mayer
Curtis L. Olson wrote: Christian Mayer writes: metakit still lives in the CVS tree (+ as an additional zip archive there). Is that OK? I thought it's supposed to be kept extra. Looking at the actual repository, I only see the metakit and zlib tar balls. The unrolled subdirectories

Re: [Flightgear-devel] warning: suggest parentheses around assignment used as truth value

2002-02-12 Thread Cameron Moore
Fixes... * [EMAIL PROTECTED] (D Luff) [2002.02.12 07:42]: In net_send.cxx, in NetworkOLK, we have the following at line 262: if (host_info = gethostbyname( src_host)) { if ((host_info = gethostbyname( src_host)) != NULL) { at line 270: if (host_info = gethostbyname( fgd_host))

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Control inputs still initialised strangely

2002-02-12 Thread David Megginson
D Luff writes: Panel visible = 1 TRACE: Write node /controls[0]/aileron[0], value-1.00 Finally initializing fdm So it seems to me that it is initially set correctly, but then for some reason it is overwitten. Any ideas? Do you have a controller (joystick, gamepad, yoke,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Control inputs still initialised strangely

2002-02-12 Thread D Luff
OK, this is now fixed. It was because NT had a joystick driver installed, but no joystick connected. Removing the joystick driver results in the controls starting centered again. My apologies for bugging you all with this! Cheers - Dave -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Flightgear-devel] YASim DC3 startup problems

2002-02-12 Thread Cameron Moore
I noticed the other day that starting YASim with the DC3 caused the external model to start out as if the axes where wrong. By that I mean the nose points out the right wing and the left wing points upward (or put another way, yaw 90 degrees right and roll 90 degress clockwise). Note that this

re: [Flightgear-devel] YASim DC3 startup problems

2002-02-12 Thread David Megginson
Cameron Moore writes: I keep my setup pretty clean (no .fgfsrc or mods to base package). RL is keeping me very busy right now, so I wanted to mention this sooner rather than later. If noone can reproduce this, let me know and I'll try to find time to investigate some more. Thanks

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Control inputs still initialised strangely

2002-02-12 Thread Erik Hofman
D Luff wrote: OK, this is now fixed. It was because NT had a joystick driver installed, but no joystick connected. Removing the joystick driver results in the controls starting centered again. Hmm, this might be one for the FAQ. I have the same setup, NT with joystick driver installed

re: [Flightgear-devel] [BUG] JSBSim: sudden plane crashes

2002-02-12 Thread Jim Wilson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I believe that these are lingering problems with the propeller models. Is this still present with the newer JSBSim code/files? Strange. It's hard to picture why, when everything has been at equilibrium for a while, why the propeller should suddenly spin out of

Re: [Flightgear-devel] for the upcoming release

2002-02-12 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Jim Wilson writes: Curtis L. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Here's my list of things that have been changed, fixed, or added for 0.7.9. It's rather long, but if anyone sees any major ommissions or errors in this list, please let me know. Thanks. Would you want to mention the

RE: [Flightgear-devel] for the upcoming release

2002-02-12 Thread BERNDT, JON S. (JON) (JSC-EX) (LM)
Would you want to mention the switch to JSBsim as default FDM? Didn't that happen with 0.7.8? And maybe the c310 model addition? Yes, I think this is new. Jon ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Flightgear-devel] key bindings

2002-02-12 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Michael Basler writes: Question: What the heck is Ctrl-R = Toggle winding-ccw? This is a debugging aid which toggles an internal opengl state. It's useful for determining if a missing triangle is missing because it is simply non-existant, or if it is not being drawn because of backface

[Flightgear-devel] prerelease tarballs

2002-02-12 Thread Curtis L. Olson
I've made prelease tarballs of SimGear-0.0.17 and FlightGear-0.7.9 and put them on the ftp server: ftp://ftp.simgear.org/pub/simgear/Source/SimGear-0.0.17pre1.tar.gz ftp://ftp.flightgear.org/pub/fgfs/Source/FlightGear-0.7.9pre1.tar.gz It would be great if as many people as possible could

Re: [Flightgear-devel] key bindings

2002-02-12 Thread John Check
On Tuesday 12 February 2002 04:53 pm, you wrote: Michael Basler writes: Question: What the heck is Ctrl-R = Toggle winding-ccw? This is a debugging aid which toggles an internal opengl state. It's useful for determining if a missing triangle is missing because it is simply non-existant,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Latest CVS doesn't run

2002-02-12 Thread Frederic Bouvier
I also see this kind of bug with MSVC. It appears that the call of calc_gc_course_dist( dest, start, course, dist ); at line 195 of cloud.cxx returns an invalid course. This course is invalid because around line 182 of polar3d.hxx, there is the calculation of acos from a value greater than 1. I

Re: [Flightgear-devel] YASim DC3 startup problems

2002-02-12 Thread Andy Ross
Jim Wilson wrote: Are you talking about the newer 3D model or newer xml? I'm not sure exactly what affects the position of the model, but using Yasim-DC3 any model including the glider is sideways. Now, that's interesting. I'd just assumed this was a modelling issue, but you're saying

Re: [Flightgear-devel] YASim DC3 startup problems

2002-02-12 Thread Cameron Moore
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andy Ross) [2002.02.12 16:43]: Jim Wilson wrote: Are you talking about the newer 3D model or newer xml? I'm not sure exactly what affects the position of the model, but using Yasim-DC3 any model including the glider is sideways. Now, that's interesting. I'd just

Re: [Flightgear-devel] YASim DC3 startup problems

2002-02-12 Thread Jim Wilson
Andy Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Jim Wilson wrote: Are you talking about the newer 3D model or newer xml? I'm not sure exactly what affects the position of the model, but using Yasim-DC3 any model including the glider is sideways. Now, that's interesting. I'd just assumed this

AW: [Flightgear-devel] Problem with help system

2002-02-12 Thread Michael Basler
Sorry for insisting on this, but it's a feature which seems to be broken (at least for me): Could somone under Windows check if he's able to open the help index page in IE via the help menu entry in FlightGear? In this case I'll check what's wrong with my system. Otherwise someone might want to

[Flightgear-devel] Kingair?

2002-02-12 Thread John Check
Who was talking about adding a kingair? We actually have a model for that in base package already TTYL J ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel

Re: [Flightgear-devel] X24B set typo

2002-02-12 Thread Martin Spott
[... jon wrote ] Correct. I intended the directory and all references to be small case: x24b The same with X15 ? Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! --

Re: [Flightgear-devel] X24B set typo

2002-02-12 Thread John Check
On Tuesday 12 February 2002 07:01 pm, you wrote: [... jon wrote ] Correct. I intended the directory and all references to be small case: x24b The same with X15 ? Martin. When I originally added X15, I did so lowercase but, was requested I change it to uppercase. TTYL J

Re: [Flightgear-devel] for the upcoming release

2002-02-12 Thread Alex Perry
I consider this as a required option for novices - although I might be proven to be wrong. Anyway I'd dare to suggest making running engines a default on startup - knowing that this might be an excellent start for a flame war ;-))) I hereby deliver the flame war. 8-) _IF_ we had a

[Flightgear-devel] Aircraft

2002-02-12 Thread David Findlay
Can we try to make a decision of what aircraft are going to be in the 0.7.9 release, and then get them ready with panels, sounds and models? This way everything it ships with will be good. Thanks, David ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL

Re: [Flightgear-devel] for the upcoming release

2002-02-12 Thread Charles Puffer
Martin Spott wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED]"> * Many improvents with piston engine and propeller modeling. Engine startup procedures work, and engine guages work. I think it should be pointed out _explicitly_ that you _have_ to start yourengine(s) manually - at least as long as you

Re: [Flightgear-devel] for the upcoming release

2002-02-12 Thread John Check
On Tuesday 12 February 2002 09:31 pm, you wrote: I consider this as a required option for novices - although I might be proven to be wrong. Anyway I'd dare to suggest making running engines a default on startup - knowing that this might be an excellent start for a flame war ;-))) I

[Flightgear-devel] tiled panel background

2002-02-12 Thread Jim Wilson
It turned out to be quite easy to add multiple tiles for a panel background. This simple one could be enhanced to have more detail but it does look quite a bit better than a single 256x256 stretched accross the window. http://www.spiderbark.com/fgfs/c310-tiled-panel.png The code for this

Re: [Flightgear-devel] tiled panel background

2002-02-12 Thread David Findlay
On Wed, 13 Feb 2002 15:02, you wrote: It turned out to be quite easy to add multiple tiles for a panel background. This simple one could be enhanced to have more detail but it does look quite a bit better than a single 256x256 stretched accross the window.