Re: [Flightgear-devel] Another person selling FlightGear under dubious pretenses

2008-11-22 Thread Melchior FRANZ
Hi, * KcKpers Ltd -- Saturday 22 November 2008: [source code] (to clear up this matter it is supplied on the CD the purchaser receives) Good. (basically re-branding this which I understand is also within the terms of the GPL) Agreed. That's allowed. And unethical, as you let your

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Another person selling FlightGear under dubious pretenses

2008-11-22 Thread KcKpers Ltd
Hi all, Thanks for the comments so far. I have been looking over the use of images. I will remove any images if you notify me that you wish them to be removed. However I do have something I wish to find out for future reference. If flight gear is under a GPL license, does

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Another person selling FlightGear under dubious pretenses

2008-11-22 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* KcKpers Ltd -- Saturday 22 November 2008: I will remove any images if you notify me that you wish them to be removed. No! Remove all of them, unless someone gives you explicit permission to use them! You don't have any permission so far! You are violating our rights and international

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Another person selling FlightGear under dubious pretenses

2008-11-22 Thread James Sleeman
KcKpers Ltd wrote: If flight gear is under a GPL license, does this not mean work created with the use of flight gear is also under this license if it an output of this software In the words of the GPL (v2) the output from the Program is covered only if its contents constitute a work

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Another person selling FlightGear under dubious pretenses

2008-11-22 Thread Jon Stockill
KcKpers Ltd wrote: Hi all, Thanks for the comments so far. I have been looking over the use of images. I will remove any images if you notify me that you wish them to be removed. However I do have something I wish to find out for future reference. If flight

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Another person selling FlightGear under dubious pretenses

2008-11-22 Thread James Sleeman
Melchior FRANZ wrote: Agreed. That's allowed. And unethical, as you let your customers pay for our free work and let them find out later. You mention I think while an ethical debate is good, perhaps flightgear-devel isn't the place really, probably just clouds the issue, which was

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Another person selling FlightGe ar under dubious pretenses

2008-11-22 Thread gerard robin
On samedi 22 novembre 2008, James Sleeman wrote: SNIP Using our screenshots is a clear copyright violation! We only (used to) allow that for I think this is really the main issue to resolve. I would suggest that it could be resolved in several ways, and that this is ultimately between

[Flightgear-devel] Change request for atlas.cxx

2008-11-22 Thread Brian Schack
Seeing as we have a new release coming down the pipe, I have a request to make in atlas.cxx. Right now, atlas.cxx uses the following code, in FGAtlas::gen_message(), to retrieve the ADF frequency: static SGPropertyNode *adf_freq = fgGetNode(/instrumentation/kr-87/outputs/selected-khz,

[Flightgear-devel] Z-near problem with new code

2008-11-22 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Hi Tim, With the new code, I have a zNear problem shown in this screenshot : http://frbouvi.free.fr/flightsim/fgfs_near_problem.jpg This build is still OSG 2.6 based. -Fred -- Frédéric Bouvier http://my.fotolia.com/frfoto/ Photo gallery http://fgsd.sourceforge.net/FlightGear Scenery

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Another person selling FlightGear under dubious pretenses

2008-11-22 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* James Sleeman -- Saturday 22 November 2008: I think while an ethical debate is good, perhaps flightgear-devel isn't the place really, [...] Don't worry, flightgear-devel is the right place for that. This is very much on-topic. And I don't take orders about what I write about, except from

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Another person selling FlightGear un der dubious pretenses

2008-11-22 Thread AJ MacLeod
On Saturday 22 November 2008 04:38:48 KcKpers Ltd wrote: As per the selling it under a different name, well I am actually in the process of compiling the game etc under this new name (basically re-branding this which I understand is also within the terms of the GPL) This part is probably one

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Z-near problem with new code

2008-11-22 Thread Tim Moore
Frederic Bouvier wrote: Hi Tim, With the new code, I have a zNear problem shown in this screenshot : http://frbouvi.free.fr/flightsim/fgfs_near_problem.jpg This build is still OSG 2.6 based. -Fred Can you tell me what you're expecting to see i.e., is there a cockpit there that isn't

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Z-near problem with new code

2008-11-22 Thread Matthew Tippett
It looks like the near clip plane is out too far. CVS fg and sg from yesterday. Regards... Matthew On 11/22/08, Tim Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frederic Bouvier wrote: Hi Tim, With the new code, I have a zNear problem shown in this screenshot :

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Z-near problem with new code

2008-11-22 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Tim Moore a écrit : Frederic Bouvier wrote: Hi Tim, With the new code, I have a zNear problem shown in this screenshot : http://frbouvi.free.fr/flightsim/fgfs_near_problem.jpg This build is still OSG 2.6 based. -Fred Can you tell me what you're expecting to see i.e., is there a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Z-near problem with new code

2008-11-22 Thread Frederic Bouvier
In this screenshot : http://frbouvi.free.fr/flightsim/fgfs_near_problem_4.jpg I am seated in the c172. Yes, really ;-) -Fred Matthew Tippett a écrit : It looks like the near clip plane is out too far. CVS fg and sg from yesterday. Regards... Matthew On 11/22/08, Tim Moore [EMAIL

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Z-near problem with new code

2008-11-22 Thread William Harrison
I can confirm this, also with CVS from yesterday but using OSG 2.7.6. On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 12:47 PM, Frederic Bouvier [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: In this screenshot : http://frbouvi.free.fr/flightsim/fgfs_near_problem_4.jpg I am seated in the c172. Yes, really ;-) -Fred Matthew Tippett a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Another person selling FlightGear under dubious pretenses

2008-11-22 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 22 Nov 2008 13:19:40 +0100, Melchior wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: * KcKpers Ltd -- Saturday 22 November 2008: I will remove any images if you notify me that you wish them to be removed. No! Remove all of them, unless someone gives you explicit permission to use them! You

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Z-near problem with new code

2008-11-22 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 22 Nov 2008 18:41:10 +0100, Frederic wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Tim Moore a écrit : Frederic Bouvier wrote: Hi Tim, With the new code, I have a zNear problem shown in this screenshot : http://frbouvi.free.fr/flightsim/fgfs_near_problem.jpg This build is still

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Z-near problem with new code

2008-11-22 Thread gerard robin
On samedi 22 novembre 2008, Frederic Bouvier wrote: In this screenshot : http://frbouvi.free.fr/flightsim/fgfs_near_problem_4.jpg I am seated in the c172. Yes, really ;-) -Fred Matthew Tippett a écrit : It looks like the near clip plane is out too far. CVS fg and sg from yesterday.

[Flightgear-devel] Further 3D Clouds updates

2008-11-22 Thread Stuart Buchanan
Hi All, Attached is a small patch for 3D clouds. It provide the following: 1) Proper spherical distribution of sprites (previously they were distributed cylindrically - whoops) 2) Better shading, so the bottom of the cloud is darker than the top. 3) Fixed a couple of texture sizing bugs. I

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Another person selling FlightGear under dubious pretenses

2008-11-22 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 22 Nov 2008 16:54:34 +0100, Melchior wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: * James Sleeman -- Saturday 22 November 2008: I think while an ethical debate is good, perhaps flightgear-devel isn't the place really, [...] Don't worry, flightgear-devel is the right place for that. This

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Z-near problem with new code

2008-11-22 Thread Matthew Tippett
I have seen something similar too. The splash screen seems to be 800x600 unscaled in the bottom left of the screen. It then seems to go full screen shortly after though. I doubt it is related to clipping issue mentioned elsewhere. Regards... Matthew On 11/22/08, gerard robin [EMAIL

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Z-near problem with new code

2008-11-22 Thread Scott Hamilton
On Sat, 2008-11-22 at 18:39 -0500, Matthew Tippett wrote: I have seen something similar too. The splash screen seems to be 800x600 unscaled in the bottom left of the screen. It then seems to go full screen shortly after though. I doubt it is related to clipping issue mentioned elsewhere.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Z-near problem with new code

2008-11-22 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Scott Hamilton a écrit : On Sat, 2008-11-22 at 18:39 -0500, Matthew Tippett wrote: I have seen something similar too. The splash screen seems to be 800x600 unscaled in the bottom left of the screen. It then seems to go full screen shortly after though. I doubt it is related to clipping

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Z-near problem with new code

2008-11-22 Thread Matthew Tippett
To add to this, when in 'Fly By' view, a fast moving aircraft will be visible on the approach, will disappear as it passes through the clip plane, the camera will pan and the aircraft will appear to emerge from the clip-plane. Regards... Matthew On 11/22/08, Matthew Tippett [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Another person selling FlightGear under dubious pretenses

2008-11-22 Thread James Sleeman
Arnt Karlsen wrote: perhaps the simplest means of resolution would be for the infringing party to take down the screen shots, take their own screen shots, and apologise for the mistake. Agreed. :-) ..under GPLv2, they _also_ need to ask _every_ copyright owner violated, for