Re: [Flightgear-devel] Route manager waypoint adding

2008-12-04 Thread James Turner
On 4 Dec 2008, at 06:40, Rob Shearman, Jr. wrote: Maybe what I am about to suggest is NOT how real-world route managers are supposed to work -- so take it with that caveat. But I would think that if your last waypoint before KSFO is 1000nm away, but you want to hold off the descent until

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Performance and initialization patch

2008-12-04 Thread James Turner
On 4 Dec 2008, at 02:58, Yon Uriarte wrote:thank you. I've keep working a bit on it. The airport ctor doesnt need to init the vectorxways>, it's wasteful.Well, see my version in that regard.Now it saves a few megabytes by removing unneeded parts from FGRunways (400k+ constructed) and using some

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Performance and initialization patch

2008-12-04 Thread Yon Uriarte
Hi, On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 10:01 AM, James Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4 Dec 2008, at 02:58, Yon Uriarte wrote: thank you. I've keep working a bit on it. The airport ctor doesnt need to init the vectorxways, it's wasteful. Well, see my version in that regard. I see, it's

[Flightgear-devel] when is the next flight ?

2008-12-04 Thread gerard robin
Fasten your seat belt :) http://guyrevel.free.fr/WGP/Haute-Voltige_au_Japon.wmv -- Gérard http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/ J'ai décidé d'être heureux parce que c'est bon pour la santé. Voltaire - This SF.Net email is

[Flightgear-devel] Another simple question

2008-12-04 Thread Hart, Gordon (UK)
Hello again, Thanks for your previous assistance - your suggestions were most helpful. Now, I'm working in Visual Studio. However, how the devil do I set up the project so that the entire code is not recompiled from scratch every time I make the smallest change, or even attempt to run the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] 172S FDM and Elite hardware

2008-12-04 Thread Torsten Dreyer
Hi I am curious whether the folks that used the Elite hardware found it necessary to fine-tune many of the property values specified in the aircraft's XML (prop) files? I haven't gotten to try this yes as the hardware just arrived a day ago, but I anticipate that this will be necessary to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Another simple question

2008-12-04 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Thu, 4 Dec 2008 11:20:51 -, Gordon (UK) wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello again, Thanks for your previous assistance - your suggestions were most helpful. Now, I'm working in Visual Studio. However, how the devil do I set up the project so that the entire code is not

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Performance and initialization patch

2008-12-04 Thread Csaba Halász
On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 3:58 AM, Yon Uriarte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One big contributor to size is SGAtomic. On windows it's 32 bytes for a 4 byte counter. That makes SGReferenced 32 bytes, too, for an 8 bytes payload. After reading the docs on InterlockedIncrement (they say a 4 byte align

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Route manager waypoint adding

2008-12-04 Thread Michael Smith
Rob Shearman, Jr. wrote: Maybe what I am about to suggest is NOT how real-world route managers are supposed to work -- so take it with that caveat. But I would think that if your last waypoint before KSFO is 1000nm away, but you want to hold off the descent until closer to KSFO, you could

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Route manager waypoint adding

2008-12-04 Thread Martin Spott
Rob Shearman, Jr. wrote: [...] But I would think that if your last waypoint before KSFO is 1000nm away, but you want to hold off the descent until closer to KSFO, you could simply insert another waypoint about 50nm out at the cruise altitude, and the effect would be to tell the route manager

[Flightgear-devel] 3D Clouds Check Board

2008-12-04 Thread gerard robin
Hello, I recently succeeded to build FG CVS with osg 2.7.5 and boost ( ouf , but on only one computer) . I get that strange 3D clouds mapping , is it just me ? http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/checkboard.jpg Cheers -- Gérard http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/ J'ai décidé d'être heureux

Re: [Flightgear-devel] 3D Clouds Check Board

2008-12-04 Thread Stuart Buchanan
gerard robin wrote: Hello, I recently succeeded to build FG CVS with osg 2.7.5 and boost ( ouf , but on only one computer) . I get that strange 3D clouds mapping , is it just me ? http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/checkboard.jpg No, it's not just you. It is a (rather poor) attempt by

Re: [Flightgear-devel] 3D Clouds Check Board

2008-12-04 Thread Heiko Schulz
Hello, I recently succeeded to build FG CVS with osg 2.7.5 and boost ( ouf , but on only one computer) . I get that strange 3D clouds mapping , is it just me ? http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/checkboard.jpg Cheers -- Gérard No, it is aknown bug- Stuart is working on that so

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Yet Another Clouds Patch

2008-12-04 Thread Yon Uriarte
Hi again Stuart, this patch reduces draw time from 4.2ms to 3.0ms on my system. Middle of the ocean, ufo, feet, v=0. Seems the # of attributes is awfully expensive, at least on ATI/win32. The changes are #ifdef'ed for easy testing. greetings, yon clouds3d.packed.attributes.patch

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft inter-dependencies for sound and OpenAL

2008-12-04 Thread Stuart Buchanan
Geoff Air wrote: (AL_INVALID_VALUE): constructor (alBufferData) Fatal error: Failed to buffer data. I think the ONLY reason you would get this not very helpful specific message is that the FG/SG is compiled against an ALUT previous to version 1, if it still exists?, or the header alut.h has

[Flightgear-devel] Yet another Clouds Patch (again)

2008-12-04 Thread Stuart Buchanan
Hi All, Attached is yet another patch for 3D clouds. Could someone please apply it to CVS? This provides the following enhancements bug fixes - Fix the chequer-board bug. - Add proper cloud coverage function - so scattered clouds are now truly scattered. - Add real-time control for visibility

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft inter-dependencies for sound and OpenAL

2008-12-04 Thread Frederic Bouvier
- Stuart Buchanan a écrit : Geoff Air wrote: (AL_INVALID_VALUE): constructor (alBufferData) Fatal error: Failed to buffer data. I think the ONLY reason you would get this not very helpful specific message is that the FG/SG is compiled against an ALUT previous to version 1, if it

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Yet another Clouds Patch (again)

2008-12-04 Thread Curtis Olson
On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 2:12 PM, Stuart Buchanan wrote: Hi All, Attached is yet another patch for 3D clouds. Could someone please apply it to CVS? This provides the following enhancements bug fixes - Fix the chequer-board bug. - Add proper cloud coverage function - so scattered clouds are

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Another simple question

2008-12-04 Thread Durk Talsma
On Thursday 04 December 2008 14:42:02 Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Thu, 4 Dec 2008 11:20:51 -, Gordon (UK) wrote in message Now, I'm working in Visual Studio. However, how the devil do I set up [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ $ apt-cache show ccache distcc [ Lots of uninformative text deleted ]

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Another simple question

2008-12-04 Thread Curtis Olson
On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 3:52 PM, Durk Talsma wrote: On Thursday 04 December 2008 14:42:02 Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Thu, 4 Dec 2008 11:20:51 -, Gordon (UK) wrote in message Now, I'm working in Visual Studio. However, how the devil do I set up [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ $ apt-cache show

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Yet another Clouds Patch (again)

2008-12-04 Thread Martin Spott
Curtis Olson wrote: I could easily be doing something wrong, or have inherited some configuration setting from a previous version, but before today's patch I had 3d clouds, and now I do not. This is with OSG 2.7.5. Is there anything I can quickly double check? The current weather !? ;-) I

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Yet another Clouds Patch (again)

2008-12-04 Thread Curtis Olson
On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 4:49 PM, Martin Spott wrote: Curtis Olson wrote: I could easily be doing something wrong, or have inherited some configuration setting from a previous version, but before today's patch I had 3d clouds, and now I do not. This is with OSG 2.7.5. Is there anything

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Yet another Clouds Patch (again)

2008-12-04 Thread Heiko Schulz
Hi, I did think of that after scratching my head a while ... the metar reported several cloud layers and I did try to switch to a new location as well as switching to fair weather and thunderstorm ... I did get snow and rain, but with a perfectly clear sky. I can try to re-cvs update

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Another simple question

2008-12-04 Thread Frederic Bouvier
- Gordon Hart (UK) a écrit : Hello again, Thanks for your previous assistance - your suggestions were most helpful. Now, I'm working in Visual Studio. However, how the devil do I set up the project so that the entire code is not recompiled from scratch every time I make the

[Flightgear-devel] Ongoing positioned work, DCLGPS

2008-12-04 Thread James Turner
Attached patches are not very interesting, but I'm trying to keep changes incremental in case I break something. The first updates how filtering is done on the various FGPositioned query functions - both spatial and ident-based. The query interface is very much still a work in progress -

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Yet another Clouds Patch (again)

2008-12-04 Thread gerard robin
On vendredi 05 décembre 2008, Heiko Schulz wrote: Hi, I did think of that after scratching my head a while ... the metar reported several cloud layers and I did try to switch to a new location as well as switching to fair weather and thunderstorm ... I did get snow and rain, but

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Ongoing positioned work, DCLGPS

2008-12-04 Thread Frederic Bouvier
- James Turner a écrit : Attached patches are not very interesting, but I'm trying to keep changes incremental in case I break something. The first updates how filtering is done on the various FGPositioned query functions - both spatial and ident-based. The query interface is

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Ongoing positioned work, DCLGPS

2008-12-04 Thread James Turner
On 4 Dec 2008, at 23:42, Frederic Bouvier wrote: It doesn't compile here. FGNavRecord or FGAirport are used but not defined ( forward declaration only and #include missing ) Hmm, strange, I must have messed up something in my local tree, I'll test with a clean checkout and re-submit.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] c172p pitch at cruise question

2008-12-04 Thread dave perry
dave perry wrote: Hi All, snip Would it not be more realistic to rotate the 3D model about -3 or -4 degrees about the ac3d z-axis. I did not make myself clear in the initial questiion. The video link only detracted from my point. The model in the .ac file is just a rigid body that

Re: [Flightgear-devel] c172p pitch at cruise question

2008-12-04 Thread Heiko Schulz
... Making this change will be a lot of work since the panel will be messed up. I know because I made a similar rigid rotation correction about a month after I first submitted the pa24-250. Dave P. If this is really necessary, I wonder if is not enough to rotate the model in the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] c172p pitch at cruise question

2008-12-04 Thread gerard robin
On vendredi 05 décembre 2008, dave perry wrote: dave perry wrote: Hi All, snip Would it not be more realistic to rotate the 3D model about -3 or -4 degrees about the ac3d z-axis. I did not make myself clear in the initial questiion. The video link only detracted from my point. The

Re: [Flightgear-devel] c172p pitch at cruise question

2008-12-04 Thread gerard robin
On vendredi 05 décembre 2008, gerard robin wrote: On vendredi 05 décembre 2008, dave perry wrote: dave perry wrote: Hi All, snip Would it not be more realistic to rotate the 3D model about -3 or -4 degrees about the ac3d z-axis. I did not make myself clear in the initial

Re: [Flightgear-devel] c172p pitch at cruise question

2008-12-04 Thread Heiko Schulz
However i noticed that with the actual position the model has the nose gear up above the ground. An offset of -2 deg would be nice pathc172p.ac/path offsets pitch-deg-0/pitch-deg /offsets Dave P. Cave: the nose gear animation

Re: [Flightgear-devel] c172p pitch at cruise question

2008-12-04 Thread Curtis Olson
We really want to make sure that the visual model is correctly aligned with the dynamics model. Then if the 3d model isn't sitting correctly at rest on the ground, it could be that the gear lengths aren't set properly in the 3d model compared to the dynamics model, or visa versa. If everything

Re: [Flightgear-devel] c172p pitch at cruise question

2008-12-04 Thread gerard robin
On vendredi 05 décembre 2008, gerard robin wrote: On vendredi 05 décembre 2008, gerard robin wrote: On vendredi 05 décembre 2008, gerard robin wrote: On vendredi 05 décembre 2008, dave perry wrote: dave perry wrote: Hi All, snip Would it not be more realistic to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Another simple question

2008-12-04 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Thu, 4 Dec 2008 22:52:47 +0100, Durk wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thursday 04 December 2008 14:42:02 Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Thu, 4 Dec 2008 11:20:51 -, Gordon (UK) wrote in message Now, I'm working in Visual Studio. However, how the devil do I set up [EMAIL