Re: [Flightgear-devel] MP Liveries for Boeing 737-300

2009-01-17 Thread Durk Talsma
On Thursday 15 January 2009 18:18:05 Melchior FRANZ wrote: * Stuart Buchanan -- Thursday 15 January 2009: [+26 liveries] My view is that they should be kept with the aircraft. Of course, liveries should generally be kept with the aircraft. But how many? Do 50 liveries for an aircraft make

[Flightgear-devel] Fail to compile FlightGear

2009-01-17 Thread 黄志勇
I fetch the newest source code from FlightGear cvs repository. But I compile failed. Error messages like these: 2e:\flight gear cvs\source\src\traffic\schedule.cxx(582) : error C2039: 'distanceNm' : is not a member of 'SGGeoc' 2e:\flight gear cvs\simgear\simgear\math\sggeoc.hxx(26) :

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Fail to compile FlightGear

2009-01-17 Thread Csaba Halász
On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 2:39 PM, 黄志勇 hzy5...@163.com wrote: I fetch the newest source code from FlightGear cvs repository. But I compile failed. Error messages like these: 2e:\flight gear cvs\source\src\traffic\schedule.cxx(582) : error C2039: 'distanceNm' : is not a member of 'SGGeoc'

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [PATCH] initialize all per-tank attributes as well in Aircraft/controls.cxx

2009-01-17 Thread Csaba Halász
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 11:18 PM, Csaba Halász csaba.hal...@gmail.com wrote: More valgrind fixes. Includes the previous one. Fred, thanks for the commit. Unfortunately I forgot about the boost pumps, so here is a follow-up. -- Csaba/Jester Index: src/Aircraft/controls.cxx

Re: [Flightgear-devel] MP Liveries for Boeing 737-300

2009-01-17 Thread Csaba Halász
On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 9:58 AM, Durk Talsma d.tal...@xs4all.nl wrote: One thing to consider is that with OSG, we can consider merging real aircraft, and their AI counterparts back into a single aircraft (IIRC, LOD management is much better in OSG than it was in PLIB). I am all for that. It

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Fail to compile FlightGear

2009-01-17 Thread 黄志勇
Csaba/Jester: Oh, Yes, I didn't fetch newest SimGear sources! Thanks for your help! 在2009-01-17,Csaba Halász csaba.hal...@gmail.com 写道: On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 2:39 PM, 黄志勇 hzy5...@163.com wrote: I fetch the newest source code from FlightGear cvs repository. But I compile failed. Error

[Flightgear-devel] Could not open file: Segmentation fault; Was: Sound problem with CVS Sun 15th Dec

2009-01-17 Thread Martin Spott
While you're talking about the C310: When I'm trying to load the c310dpm-3d, I'm getting the following error: Could not open file: [...]/data/Aircraft/c310/c310ap.xml Segmentation fault This is easy to cure by commenting the AP-related lines in 'c310.xml' (done), nevertheless I'm surprised to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Could not open file: Segmentation fault; Was: Sound problem with CVS Sun 15th Dec

2009-01-17 Thread Csaba Halász
On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 9:08 PM, Martin Spott martin.sp...@mgras.net wrote: nevertheless I'm surprised to see a missing XML config file segfaulting the entire simulation (current CVS, Linux AMD64). I am not :) -- Csaba/Jester Index: src/FDM/JSBSim/models/FGFCS.cpp

[Flightgear-devel] airliner ditching miracle ... or not

2009-01-17 Thread John Denker
Hi Folks -- I suppose you've heard about the Airbus A320 that ditched in the Hudson river, in the shadow of downtown Manhattan, on Thursday. As crashes go, it must be considered a success, since there were no fatalities and almost no serious injuries. Around here it has received

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Simgear : Patch for Sun Solaris 10 + Sun Studio

2009-01-17 Thread Csaba Halász
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 8:54 PM, Martin Spott martin.sp...@mgras.net wrote: Vikas N Kumar wrote: Below is the patch to allow Sun Studio 11 compilers to compile SimGear on Solaris 10 for SPARC cleanly. Would anyone be (seriously!) willing to deal with Solaris/SunStudio portability issues

Re: [Flightgear-devel] airliner ditching miracle ... or not

2009-01-17 Thread Jon S. Berndt
Hi Folks -- I suppose you've heard about the Airbus A320 that ditched in the Hudson river, in the shadow of downtown Manhattan, on Thursday. As crashes go, it must be considered a success, since there were no fatalities and almost no serious injuries. Around here it has received

Re: [Flightgear-devel] airliner ditching miracle ... or not

2009-01-17 Thread syd adams
So, how about it? Who is serious about going down that road? I am , for one, which is why I dont get the apperent need to impress the general user community... I didn't think we were creating a game here... I'm currently more interested in getting the glass cockpits to behave realistically , but

Re: [Flightgear-devel] airliner ditching miracle ... or not

2009-01-17 Thread Curtis Olson
On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Jon S. Berndt wrote: Many of you recall the hijacked airliner than ran out of fuel ten or fifteen years ago. The resulting ditching didn't turn out so well, with most people drowning. That was on the ocean near the shore. In the recent case, it appears that

Re: [Flightgear-devel] airliner ditching miracle ... or not

2009-01-17 Thread Curtis Olson
On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 6:00 PM, syd adams adams@gmail.com wrote: So, how about it? Who is serious about going down that road? I am , for one, which is why I dont get the apperent need to impress the general user community... I didn't think we were creating a game here... I'm currently

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Simgear : Patch for Sun Solaris 10 + Sun

2009-01-17 Thread Martin Spott
Csaba Hal??sz wrote: I have never been near a solaris machine, but sure, post errors and we'll see :) Thanks for your offer, no obligation implicated ;-) I put the output of 'make -k' here: http://foxtrot.mgras.net/static/SimGear_SunStudio11.log.bz2 Apparently most of the error messages

Re: [Flightgear-devel] airliner ditching miracle ... or not

2009-01-17 Thread Martin Spott
syd adams wrote: Input is always appreciated , with facts and docs to back it up , but not the its wrong because I say so kind of help ... Well put ! Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are !

Re: [Flightgear-devel] airliner ditching miracle ... or not

2009-01-17 Thread John Denker
On 01/17/2009 05:16 PM, Curtis Olson wrote: http://www.atcflightsim.com/index.html If I may be permitted to answer in kind: http://www.atcflightsim.com/pricing.html -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SourcForge

Re: [Flightgear-devel] airliner ditching miracle ... or not

2009-01-17 Thread Curtis Olson
On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 6:30 PM, John Denker j...@av8n.com wrote: On 01/17/2009 05:16 PM, Curtis Olson wrote: http://www.atcflightsim.com/index.html If I may be permitted to answer in kind: http://www.atcflightsim.com/pricing.html You are expecting a complete cockpit enclosure,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] airliner ditching miracle ... or not

2009-01-17 Thread John Wojnaroski
Curtis Olson wrote: On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 6:00 PM, syd adams adams@gmail.com wrote: So, how about it? Who is serious about going down that road? I am , for one, which is why I dont get the apperent need to impress the general user community... I didn't think we were creating a game

Re: [Flightgear-devel] airliner ditching miracle ... or not

2009-01-17 Thread Curtis Olson
On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 7:00 PM, John Wojnaroski cas...@mminternet.comwrote: Or for that matter http://www.lfstech.com/index.html Good point. :-) Curt. -- Curtis Olson: http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/ -- This

Re: [Flightgear-devel] airliner ditching miracle ... or not

2009-01-17 Thread John Wojnaroski
Curtis Olson wrote: On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 6:30 PM, John Denker j...@av8n.com wrote: On 01/17/2009 05:16 PM, Curtis Olson wrote: http://www.atcflightsim.com/index.html If I may be permitted to answer in kind: http://www.atcflightsim.com/pricing.html You are expecting

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Simgear : Patch for Sun Solaris 10 + Sun

2009-01-17 Thread Csaba Halász
On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 1:16 AM, Martin Spott martin.sp...@mgras.net wrote: Csaba Hal??sz wrote: I have never been near a solaris machine, but sure, post errors and we'll see :) Thanks for your offer, no obligation implicated ;-) I put the output of 'make -k' here:

[Flightgear-devel] real pilot training using FlightGear ... or not

2009-01-17 Thread John Denker
On 01/17/2009 05:47 PM, Curtis Olson wrote: You are expecting a complete cockpit enclosure, instruments, radio hardware, instructor station software, plush seat, and FAA certification for free? The FAA doesn't certify a software application (well unless you are looking at a PCATD and even

Re: [Flightgear-devel] real pilot training using FlightGear ... or not

2009-01-17 Thread Alex Perry
On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 7:54 PM, John Denker j...@av8n.com wrote: On 01/17/2009 05:47 PM, Curtis Olson wrote: You are expecting a complete cockpit enclosure, instruments, radio hardware, instructor station software, plush seat, and FAA certification for free? The FAA doesn't certify a software

Re: [Flightgear-devel] real pilot training using FlightGear ... or not

2009-01-17 Thread John Denker
On 01/17/2009 10:11 PM, Alex Perry wrote: Procedural trainers are useful and the FAA has a minimum specification (PCATD) which determines how much fidelity is needed to ensure a net positive training value for the student. FlightGear does not currently meet that standard. Agreed. But is it

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 1.9.1

2009-01-17 Thread Durk Talsma
Hi Tim, On Sunday 11 January 2009 21:07:25 Tim Moore wrote: I propose that the 1.9.1 release be made from these maint branches. This would let progress continue in CVS while hopefully achieving some stability in a maintenance release. If current committers would like write access to these

[Flightgear-devel] FAA Certification based on FG

2009-01-17 Thread Tom Betka
Interesting post by John Denker... While I have no real comment about the Airbus issue (other than to say that is was a great job of piloting a stricken aircraft), I can comment on the status of a project to get Flight Gear FAA-certified. As several of you may know, four of us are working on a