[Flightgear-devel] Local Weather - backward compatibility

2011-08-04 Thread thorsten . i . renk
Please note, the check for features.can_disable_environment == 1 is gone now. It doesn't make any sense there. In a current GIT, none of the checks make any sense, because current GIT always has all the features. On the other hand, the purpose of the compat_layer.nas is to provide

[Flightgear-devel] Default 3d clouds in Local Weather

2011-08-04 Thread thorsten . i . renk
I've finally (I guess you all know the feeling of too much other stuff to do...) managed to start some tests with Stuart's Nasal interface for 3d cloud generation. Right now there is only a very rough placement structure and no real management (no removal, no distinction of cloud size, all same

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Proposal: Move airplanes to an SVN repository

2011-08-04 Thread Torsten Dreyer
Sound good? Any nominations? I favor the an2, which I like, has lots of textures and sounds, and which hasn't seen any recent activity. Sounds good! Another one might be Vostok-1. It eats up 166MB and has only three commits. Torsten

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Default 3d clouds in Local Weather

2011-08-04 Thread Stuart Buchanan
On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 8:15 AM,wrote: I've finally (I guess you all know the feeling of too much other stuff to do...) managed to start some tests with Stuart's Nasal interface for 3d cloud generation. Right now there is only a very rough placement structure and no real management (no

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Proposal: Move airplanes to an SVN repository

2011-08-04 Thread TDO_Brandano -
I wouldn't touch the Vostock right now, it might be taken as an afront by the author Alessandro Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 09:50:04 +0200 From: tors...@t3r.de To: flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Proposal: Move airplanes to an SVN repository Sound good?

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Proposal: Move airplanes to an SVN repository

2011-08-04 Thread Vivian Meazza
Tim Moore wrote On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Francesco Angelo Brisa fbr...@gmail.com wrote: Any news about a possible separation of aircrafts data from the fgdata folder ? I am afraid this topic is sligtly falling into the forget about it folder :-( Cheers Francesco

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Local Weather - backward compatibility

2011-08-04 Thread Vivian Meazza
Thorsten wrote -Original Message- From:.i.r...@jyu.fi [mailto:thorsten.i.r...@jyu.fi] Sent: 04 August 2011 07:57 To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: [Flightgear-devel] Local Weather - backward compatibility Please note, the check for features.can_disable_environment

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Proposal: Move airplanes to an SVN repository

2011-08-04 Thread Torsten Dreyer
I wouldn't touch the Vostock right now, it might be taken as an afront by the author (*Shrugs*) Looking at disk size, this list might help making decision. (from du -ms *|sort -n) 47 an2 47 F-8E-Crusader 48 A340-600 50 f16 51 Short-Stirling 58 D510 65

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Proposal: Move airplanes to an SVN repository

2011-08-04 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Funny (!) that the last one in the first list will be unmaintain from now if I read this ml correctly. Regards, -Fred - Mail original - I wouldn't touch the Vostock right now, it might be taken as an afront by the author (*Shrugs*) Looking at disk size, this list might help

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Local Weather - backward compatibility

2011-08-04 Thread thorsten . i . renk
We don't normally maintain 2 versions: we leave the last stable as is, and only work on the Git version. If it's too much work, or too confusing I would suggest you abandon the version intended to be distributed via Forums, since that is not how we usually conduct our business. That's

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Local Weather - backward compatibility

2011-08-04 Thread Torsten Dreyer
Am 04.08.2011 08:57, schrieb thorsten.i.r...@jyu.fi: Please note, the check for features.can_disable_environment == 1 is gone now. It doesn't make any sense there. In a current GIT, none of the checks make any sense, because current GIT always has all the features. On the other hand, the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Proposal: Move airplanes to an SVN repository

2011-08-04 Thread Emilian Huminiuc
On Thursday 04 August 2011 11:36:48 Torsten Dreyer wrote: I wouldn't touch the Vostock right now, it might be taken as an afront by the author (*Shrugs*) Looking at disk size, this list might help making decision. (from du -ms *|sort -n) 47 an2 47 F-8E-Crusader 48

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Local Weather - backward compatibility

2011-08-04 Thread thorsten . i . renk
Sorry, I was unclear. The computation of wind-from-down-fps can not be disabled at all, it is independent of the feature can_disable_environment. Thanks for clarifying - that makes sense. Sorry for the confusion then. * Thorsten

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Default 3d clouds in Local Weather

2011-08-04 Thread thorsten . i . renk
Even though your previous testing showed no perf difference between the default 3d clouds and the models, I am slightly disappointed there isn't some intrinsic perf benefit to the default 3d versions. It's not been a fair comparison as such. Let me try building clouds from the same texture

Re: [Flightgear-devel] scripted compile from source... results in run_fgrun buttons greyed out, or fgfs cannot open shared object file

2011-08-04 Thread marthter
On 11-08-03 08:22 PM, Csaba Halász wrote: On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 12:22 AM, marthtermarth...@yahoo.ca wrote: I also have separately installed FlightGear via the package manager, so I tried pointing FG_AIRCRAFT at what appears to be the Aircraft directory, Also when I guessed at what to put

Re: [Flightgear-devel] scripted compile from source... results in run_fgrun buttons greyed out, or fgfs cannot open shared object file

2011-08-04 Thread TDO_Brandano -
try running download_and_compile.sh (-an -pn) DATA the -an switch disables the apt-get update, and -pn disables the apt-get upgrade, you won't really need those for the data anyway. Alessandro Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 09:59:29 -0400 From: marth...@yahoo.ca To:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] scripted compile from source... results in run_fgrun buttons greyed out, or fgfs cannot open shared object file

2011-08-04 Thread marthter
On 11-08-04 10:38 AM, TDO_Brandano - wrote: try running download_and_compile.sh (-an -pn) DATA the -an switch disables the apt-get update, and -pn disables the apt-get upgrade, you won't really need those for the data anyway. Alessandro Thanks Alessandro, I more or less tried that, at

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Default 3d clouds in Local Weather

2011-08-04 Thread thorsten . i . renk
Even though your previous testing showed no perf difference between the default 3d clouds and the models, I am slightly disappointed there isn't some intrinsic perf benefit to the default 3d versions. It's not been a fair comparison as such. Let me try building clouds from the same texture

Re: [Flightgear-devel] scripted compile from source... results in run_fgrun buttons greyed out, or fgfs cannot open shared object file

2011-08-04 Thread Francesco Angelo Brisa
Hi, the script is made to duild both fgrun and fgfs if you give no arguments, unfortunatelly, it is quite easy that something can go wrong (Compilation,data fetching etc...). when this happens, you can end up with an inconsistent fgdata folder that makes the git problems. Further more if data

Re: [Flightgear-devel] scripted compile from source... results in run_fgrun buttons greyed out, or fgfs cannot open shared object file

2011-08-04 Thread Csaba Halász
On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 5:29 PM, marthter marth...@yahoo.ca wrote: I noticed that there were in fact 7.2 GB in the fgdata/.git folder (and no other folders present within fgdata at all), so it seemed all the downloading had been done, just none of the git magic to actually show any files. Ok,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Future Weather System

2011-08-04 Thread Stuart Buchanan
2011/8/2 Mathias Fröhlich wrote: snip So I decoupled these two structures somehow. I have put bv-trees of geometry into the userdata field of the scenegraph. So for the high level operations like tile loading, the scenery paging is used to load and get rid of the bv- trees. The whole

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Proposal: Move airplanes to an SVN repository

2011-08-04 Thread Martin Spott
Frederic Bouvier wrote: Funny (!) that the last one in the first list will be unmaintain from now if I read this ml correctly. Let's sit down and have a beer/wine/tea/vos...dka ;-) Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are !

Re: [Flightgear-devel] scripted compile from source... results in run_fgrun buttons greyed out, or fgfs cannot open shared object file

2011-08-04 Thread xsaint
Hello Francesco How are you doing lately? :) Hope all are well with you... With respect to FGRUN in your script, maybe you can consider FGO in your future scripts. I find FGO to be light on system memory and easier to manage. This is just a suggestion and i hope you do not mind... Cheers!