Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re : Re : Looking at a nice project from

2012-02-25 Thread Martin Spott
Hi Stuart, Stuart Buchanan wrote: Your announcement of having a Topologically clean dataset suggests that we're getting significantly closer to being able to build the entire world using new data such as CORINE and custom data sets. Could you outline what work is still required, and how much

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Sanitizing materials.xml

2012-02-25 Thread Adrian Musceac
On Friday, February 24, 2012 21:38:39 Stuart Buchanan wrote: Regional texturing is a feature which would be nice on GIT - by now, we also have enough GPL-compatible textures to pull it off (a while ago, Adrian posted a very impressive GLP texture pack in the forum). I'd be willing to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re : Re : Looking at a nice project from

2012-02-25 Thread Martin Spott
Martin Spott wrote: After VMap0 has proven to be really clean, the next step would be to either cut the CLC06 coverage out of CLC00 and then cut the result out of VMap0, or first cut CLC00 out of VMap0 and later replace CLC00 by CLC06 where available. While you're at it, be prepared to spend

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re : Re : Looking at a nice project from

2012-02-25 Thread Stefan Seifert
On Saturday 25 February 2012 11:21:03 Martin Spott wrote: Thus you never know wether your job is going to take just a few days, a few weeks or a few months. I don't like jobs running several months. I had a few of these but the most promising ones were killed when the machine had to be

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re : Re : Looking at a nice project from

2012-02-25 Thread Erik Hofman
On Sat, 2012-02-25 at 11:21 +, Martin Spott wrote: classify Landsat7 imagery. On the other hand there's a lot more detail in John Holden's London work, Gijs Frisian islands and all the other custom stuff (Helgoland comes into my mind as well, I can't remember all the individual places).

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Looking at a nice project from outside

2012-02-25 Thread Stefan Gofferje
On 02/24/2012 02:35 PM, kreuzritter2000 wrote: In my opinion a key for success of 1.) is to NOT promote individual scenery projects on the official FlightGear places. So i suggest to remove all urls that do link to such individual scenery projects from the FlightGear website, the wiki and

[Flightgear-devel] gpl scenery

2012-02-25 Thread syd adams
This discussion about scenery reminded me of a few things , one of them is me not understanding what Martin is working towards...I probably should pay closer attention .Sorry Martin. I've been very interested in seeing an improvement in scenery , but i think covering it up with shaders is the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Looking at a nice project from outside

2012-02-25 Thread Gijs de Rooy
Yves wrote: Proposal for a first small meeting at #fg_scenery channel, this weekend: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=IRC+Meeting+%40+%23fg_sceneryiso=20120226T17p1=945ah=1 Won't be able to be there :( Rest of the week should be fine though...

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Looking at a nice project from outside

2012-02-25 Thread Mathias Fröhlich
Martin, It's sad to hear that this central scenery database should have failed. I never cared myself much about how our scenery is built. This is just because all my interrests and work are in completely different corners of this project. So concentrating on other corners than scenery can

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Looking at a nice project from outside

2012-02-25 Thread Martin Spott
Stefan Gofferje wrote: I think, the licensing issue is maybe a bigger point than it's being given credit for. It seems to be very hard to create really pretty scenery which is GPL compatible. I'm not uptodate, but I remember something about e.g. CORINE being not GPL-compatible. This has

[Flightgear-devel] Stuart and Curt, live on FSBreak!

2012-02-25 Thread Gijs de Rooy
Just in case you have some spare time, check out FSBreak, a flight simulator podcast discussing recent developments and review. Curt and Stuart are promoting FligthGear live right now! http://www.fsbreak.net/

Re: [Flightgear-devel] gpl scenery

2012-02-25 Thread HB-GRAL
Hi Syd Am 25.02.12 17:04, schrieb syd adams: I use Aerodrome charts for reference , and then modify the existing scenery tiles by the measurements written on those charts. Ive used Qgis with shapefiles from a canadian wms server as a background image to tweak the shapefiles from

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Looking at a nice project from outside

2012-02-25 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 25.02.12 14:28, schrieb Stefan Gofferje: Now we are back to what people are interested in... If I think about myself personally, if I would go through the hassle of compiling and learning to handle this monster Terragear, I would do it to create the best possible VFR scenery for Western

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Sanitizing materials.xml

2012-02-25 Thread Stuart Buchanan
On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 11:40 AM, Adrian Musceac wrote: That texure pack has been updated a couple of weeks ago, adding the new path compatibility changes and also adding a couple of new GPL compatible textures sent by Thorsten to me. I'd be grateful if you decided to add the textures to the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Looking at a nice project from outside

2012-02-25 Thread Martin Spott
HB-GRAL wrote: Where have you been looking for? I can provide you some GPL compliant data when it is necessary. Just send me a note or ask at the forum. While you're at it: I saw several places where people were claiming CGIAR SRTM to be GPL compilant. Unless you're having ecplicit written

Re: [Flightgear-devel] gpl scenery

2012-02-25 Thread Pedro Morgan
Can we all get a grip on this.. I dont mind spearheading for the want of the word.. a new research project.. The intention is to ascertain.. On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 7:49 PM, HB-GRAL flightg...@sablonier.ch wrote: Hi Syd Am 25.02.12 17:04, schrieb syd adams: I use Aerodrome charts for

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Looking at a nice project from outside

2012-02-25 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 25.02.12 21:38, schrieb Martin Spott: HB-GRAL wrote: Where have you been looking for? I can provide you some GPL compliant data when it is necessary. Just send me a note or ask at the forum. While you're at it: I saw several places where people were claiming CGIAR SRTM to be GPL

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Looking at a nice project from outside

2012-02-25 Thread Pedro Morgan
Can I ask a Muppet Question.. ?? copyright is always owned by authority of nav data.. eg caa, nats, eurocontrol.. So this data is theirs but were allowed to use Another example id livery and logos.. eg an airline that is defunct or BritishArwys as and exmaple.. Now their logo is their

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Looking at a nice project from outside

2012-02-25 Thread HB-GRAL
Hi Pete Am 25.02.12 22:12, schrieb Pedro Morgan: Can I ask a Muppet Question.. ?? copyright is always owned by authority of nav data.. eg caa, nats, eurocontrol.. There are many different ways handling this data, by each region. FAA i.e. puts a lot of data into public domain, that is

[Flightgear-devel] Windturbines facing in wrong wind direction

2012-02-25 Thread D-NXKT
Hello, in a recent posting I claimed that the windturbines are heading out of the wind and not into it. After a deeper investigation I found out that this is only true for the north- south direction. In contrast to this the heading in the east-west direction is correct. The reason is a wrong

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Looking at a nice project from outside

2012-02-25 Thread Pedro Morgan
So its a typical data distribution problem.. This is easy to solve.. with a few participants and testers.. pedro On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 9:32 PM, HB-GRAL flightg...@sablonier.ch wrote: Hi Pete Am 25.02.12 22:12, schrieb Pedro Morgan: Can I ask a Muppet Question.. ?? copyright is always

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Sanitizing materials.xml

2012-02-25 Thread Adrian Musceac
On Saturday, February 25, 2012 22:36:34 Stuart Buchanan wrote: The new file structure is now in place. Note that the file format itself has not changed, so it should be fairly easy to incorporate your changes. Have a look at Materials/default/materials.xml to see how the shared information

Re: [Flightgear-devel] gpl scenery

2012-02-25 Thread Vivian Meazza
HB-GRAL wrote -Original Message- From: [mailto:flightg...@sablonier.ch] Sent: 25 February 2012 19:49 To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] gpl scenery Hi Syd Am 25.02.12 17:04, schrieb syd adams: I use Aerodrome charts for reference , and then modify

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Looking at a nice project from outside

2012-02-25 Thread David Van Mosselbeen
Hi Martin, I have no idea about the technical part you are doing behind the scenes to provide us a world in FG. But it's a fact, no world in FG, would make the rest useless. Terrasync and it's idea is somethings that have made FG stronger! All those who use it know the fabulous advantage it

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Looking at a nice project from outside

2012-02-25 Thread Gene Buckle
On Sat, 25 Feb 2012, Pedro Morgan wrote: Can I ask a Muppet Question.. ?? copyright is always owned by authority of nav data.. eg caa, nats, eurocontrol.. So this data is theirs but were allowed to use Another example id livery and logos.. eg an airline that is defunct or BritishArwys as

Re: [Flightgear-devel] gpl scenery

2012-02-25 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 26.02.12 00:30, schrieb Vivian Meazza: HB-GRAL wrote -Original Message- From: [mailto:flightg...@sablonier.ch] Sent: 25 February 2012 19:49 To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] gpl scenery Hi Syd Am 25.02.12 17:04, schrieb syd adams: I use

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Looking at a nice project from outside

2012-02-25 Thread Stefan Gofferje
Hi, On 02/25/2012 10:22 PM, HB-GRAL wrote: What are you waiting, go for it! When I can help to keep the monster small, I will try to do it. From my experience building scenery I would say ... building Western Finland in a good matter will take approximate six months when you’re fast (while

Re: [Flightgear-devel] gpl scenery

2012-02-25 Thread Stefan Gofferje
On 02/26/2012 02:21 AM, HB-GRAL wrote: No, I am not over-doing this one I think. The charts are republished this way, and charts could not be transformed to a GPL source by a personal-referencing-and-copyright-project by Syd. I am referencing the copyright and restriction of NAV CANADA (in

Re: [Flightgear-devel] gpl scenery

2012-02-25 Thread syd adams
My source of info is here. http://www.navcanada.ca/NavCanada.asp?Language=enContent=ContentDefinitionFiles%5CPublications%5CAeronauticalInfoProducts%5CCanadianAirportCharts%5Cdefault.xml I also own the Canadian Flight Supplimental book purchased during flight training, which contains all the