Re: [Flightgear-devel] Chinook Was: Re: Helicopter: First Impressions

2006-06-29 Thread chris
On Wednesday 28 June 2006 02:37, Joacim Persson wrote: On Tue, 27 Jun 2006, Maik Justus wrote: I'm working now on simulating the rotor on several points along the rotor blades (with twist). I suspect that twist to vary with load. The twist should not vary with load, but the coning angle

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Chinook Was: Re: Helicopter: First Impressions

2006-06-29 Thread Joacim Persson
On Wed, 28 Jun 2006, chris wrote: That is backward. Indeed so. ;) (already sorted out) The chinook used to have just an Stability Augmentation System the SAS for short. You still did not want to take your hands off the cyclic but it made it somewhat smoother. Yea I read a little about

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Chinook Was: Re: Helicopter: First Impressions

2006-06-28 Thread Joacim Persson
On Tue, 27 Jun 2006, Josh Babcock wrote: But you don't *want* the rotor to be straight. Assuming a constant airfoil section along the length of the blade, you would want a constant aoa so that you can get the maximum lift out of the blade. I'm glad you didn't read what I had typed, because I

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Chinook Was: Re: Helicopter: First Impressions

2006-06-28 Thread Josh Babcock
Joacim Persson wrote: I'm glad you didn't read what I had typed, because I was full of shit. =) (I said the tips have *higher* incidence) Actually, I thought that was just a brain fart and you wrote higher and meant lower :) It was a little confusing. Josh Using Tomcat but need to do more?

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Chinook Was: Re: Helicopter: First Impressions

2006-06-27 Thread Maik Justus
Hi Joacim, Joacim Persson schrieb: There is (was?) also an odd bug occuring from time to time, where some kind of torque was wrong or missing and the chinook started spinning like mad at takeoff; as if the torque on one rotor was missing or the cyclic aileron was differing between the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Chinook Was: Re: Helicopter: First Impressions

2006-06-27 Thread Maik Justus
Hi Joacim, Joacim Persson schrieb: AFAIK, the yasim fdm-engine does not simulate rotor blades with twist. Chinook blades are twisted as much as 12°. (for stability reasons) I'm working now on simulating the rotor on several points along the rotor blades (with twist). Maik Using Tomcat but

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Chinook Was: Re: Helicopter: First Impressions

2006-06-27 Thread Joacim Persson
On Tue, 27 Jun 2006, Maik Justus wrote: I'm working now on simulating the rotor on several points along the rotor blades (with twist). I suspect that twist to vary with load. It's the tips that has a 12° higher incidence (sic!) than the root, when the rotor is stopped that is. I guess that's

[Flightgear-devel] Chinook Was: Re: Helicopter: First Impressions

2006-06-24 Thread Joacim Persson
On Fri, 23 Jun 2006, Maik Justus wrote: Is there any other helicopter (3D-model) in preparation? Hello Maik, I was fiddling with mainly the FDM for the Chinook last winter, and have a simple 3D for it. (only an untextured exterior fuselage with two non-rotating rotors and the four wheels)

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Chinook Was: Re: Helicopter: First Impressions

2006-06-24 Thread Maik Justus
Hi Joacim, I am surprised how many helicopter types are (more or less) in process. The ch47 simulation is only a proof of concept. It shows, that the rotor simulation is able to simulate this rotor configuration (It has 4-blade rotors, it is much to small, no parameter of the rotor is form the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Chinook Was: Re: Helicopter: First Impressions

2006-06-24 Thread Maik Justus
Hi Josh, yes, it has impact on the autorotation. But I hope that it is possible, to simulate autorotation as a first attempt without it. Most model helicopter have no twist and are able to fly autorotations. Maik Josh Babcock schrieb: Joacim Persson wrote: AFAIK, the yasim fdm-engine

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Chinook Was: Re: Helicopter: First Impressions

2006-06-24 Thread Josh Babcock
Maik Justus wrote: Hi Josh, yes, it has impact on the autorotation. But I hope that it is possible, to simulate autorotation as a first attempt without it. Most model helicopter have no twist and are able to fly autorotations. Maik Josh Babcock schrieb: Joacim Persson wrote:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Chinook Was: Re: Helicopter: First Impressions

2006-06-24 Thread Joacim Persson
On Sat, 24 Jun 2006, Maik Justus wrote: Hi Joacim, I am surprised how many helicopter types are (more or less) in process. The ch47 simulation is only a proof of concept. It shows, that the rotor simulation is able to simulate this rotor configuration (It has 4-blade rotors, it is much to