Re: [Flightgear-devel] Multiplayer ATC aircraft, feature request...

2009-08-16 Thread Rob Shearman, Jr.
of Transportation also known as rm...@umd.edu From: syd adams adams@gmail.com To: FlightGear developers discussions flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 5:17:23 PM Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Multiplayer ATC aircraft

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Multiplayer ATC aircraft, feature request...

2009-08-15 Thread Rob Shearman, Jr.
@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 5:12:27 AM Subject: Fw: [Flightgear-devel] Multiplayer ATC aircraft, feature request... Syd et al -- Me: I'll also see what I can come up with by way of my own solutions. I actually have hacked together an ATC version that (in my own opinion, of course

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Multiplayer ATC aircraft, feature request...

2009-08-15 Thread syd adams
It's looking good so far ... I haven't tested it yet myself , but if the guidelines are a separate texture , you can have them clipped my making the instrument the same dimensions as the radar screen ... cheers -- Let

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Multiplayer ATC aircraft,

2009-08-11 Thread Martin Spott
Hi Rob, Rob Shearman, Jr. wrote: Would it not be possible to add a chat client to it, which would be compatible with the MP network protocol? I suspect that adding specific features for a single simulator simply is not a design goal for this RADAR console. Think of it as a universal RADAR

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Multiplayer ATC aircraft,

2009-08-11 Thread Stuart Buchanan
Rob Shearman wrote: Would it not be possible to add a chat client to it, which would be compatible with the MP network protocol? Obviously it would have to report position information, but that should be trivial enough to work out, shouldn't it? Cheers, -R. Hi Rob, It might be easier just

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Multiplayer ATC aircraft,

2009-08-10 Thread Martin Spott
Rob Shearman, Jr. wrote: Oooohhh, PRETTY! What is that a screenshot of? ATC aircraft v3 perhaps? Or a separate app meant to interact with FG MP as an ATC? This was an old screenshot of a standalone Java app, written by a FlightGear fellow, to serve as a RADAR screen for FlightGear. The

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Multiplayer ATC aircraft,

2009-08-10 Thread Rob Shearman, Jr.
as rm...@umd.edu --- On Mon, 8/10/09, Martin Spott martin.sp...@mgras.net wrote: From: Martin Spott martin.sp...@mgras.net Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Multiplayer ATC aircraft, To: flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Date: Monday, August 10, 2009, 7:18 AM Rob Shearman, Jr. wrote: Oooohhh

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Multiplayer ATC aircraft,

2009-08-10 Thread syd adams
does this mean I'm off the hook ? This one looks MUCH nicer :) cheers -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Multiplayer ATC aircraft,

2009-08-10 Thread Martin Spott
Rob Shearman, Jr. wrote: Is it GPL'd, and if so, do you have the source? Even though it's not explicitly noted, the source is supposed to be licensed under GPL. As I understand, much has changed since the latest public version and because I'm not in hurry, I'll simply be going to wait until

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Multiplayer ATC aircraft,

2009-08-10 Thread Martin Spott
Syd, syd adams wrote: does this mean I'm off the hook ? This one looks MUCH nicer :) I know very little about FlightGear's ATC aircraft, even less do I know about how to use it. Note that this so-called OpenRADAR (we called it this way because we were short of better ideas for a nice name :-)

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Multiplayer ATC aircraft,

2009-08-10 Thread Rob Shearman, Jr.
, University of Maryland Department of Transportation also known as rm...@umd.edu From: Martin Spott martin.sp...@mgras.net To: flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 5:59:51 PM Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Multiplayer ATC

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Multiplayer ATC aircraft,

2009-08-10 Thread George Patterson
Hi All, I don't necessarily see a dedicated radar view and ATC from Flightgear being mutually exclusive. There are times when you'd like to stick your head out the window to watch the aircraft land. This does bring extra complexities such as both programs needing to know air craft positions,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Multiplayer ATC aircraft, feature request...

2009-08-09 Thread Stuart Buchanan
syd adams wrote: That might be best . I know very little about what information a real scope displays , and intercepting a radial is the pilots job , so I dont know if I can bring myself to add that line ;). I was at a fly-in to an RAF base last week, which included a tour of their tower.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Multiplayer ATC aircraft, feature request...

2009-08-09 Thread Rob Shearman, Jr.
: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Multiplayer ATC aircraft, feature request... syd adams wrote: That might be best . I know very little about what information a real scope displays , and intercepting a radial is the pilots job , so I dont know if I can bring myself to add that line ;). I was at a fly

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Multiplayer ATC aircraft, feature request...

2009-08-09 Thread syd adams
Sounds like you guys know far more about the subject than I do . I'll see what I can do . The simplest idea I had was to overlay another transparent texture with a single line that could be rotated to the runway heading , but I dont know if that's suitable. Maybe a property enabled line could be

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Multiplayer ATC aircraft,

2009-08-09 Thread Martin Spott
Rob Shearman, Jr. wrote: [...] Yes, intercepting it *is* the pilot's job, but the approach controller needs to get them in the vicinity of it, fare enough out, and with not too sharp a turn, and I'm pretty certain that the extended centerlines are indicated on their screens. Sort of this ?

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Multiplayer ATC aircraft, feature request...

2009-08-09 Thread Vivian Meazza
Stuart Buchanan wrote syd adams wrote: That might be best . I know very little about what information a real scope displays , and intercepting a radial is the pilots job , so I dont know if I can bring myself to add that line ;). I was at a fly-in to an RAF base last week, which

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Multiplayer ATC aircraft,

2009-08-09 Thread Rob Shearman, Jr.
Department of Transportation also known as rm...@umd.edu From: Martin Spott martin.sp...@mgras.net To: flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2009 4:41:50 AM Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Multiplayer ATC aircraft, Rob Shearman, Jr. wrote

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Multiplayer ATC aircraft,

2009-08-09 Thread Jacob Burbach
I spy a java icon... ;) -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Multiplayer ATC aircraft,

2009-08-09 Thread Rob Shearman, Jr.
Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Multiplayer ATC aircraft, I spy a java icon... ;) -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration

[Flightgear-devel] Multiplayer ATC aircraft, feature request...

2009-08-08 Thread Rob Shearman, Jr.
Hello, Syd and Jester... How easy/difficult would it be to add a small detail to the radar scope view, which would be extended centerlines for the runways? Trying to use version 2 today, I ran into difficulty giving good localizer intercepts just trying to eyeball the extended lines,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Multiplayer ATC aircraft, feature request...

2009-08-08 Thread syd adams
I think I know what your looking for , dont know if I like the idea , but it shouldn't be too difficult. You can tint the view from the menu to darken it so the screen info displays clearer ... what about another step to blackout the background view completely? What comes to mind is a line from

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Multiplayer ATC aircraft, feature request...

2009-08-08 Thread Rob Shearman, Jr.
, August 8, 2009 6:06:12 PM Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Multiplayer ATC aircraft, feature request... I think I know what your looking for , dont know if I like the idea , but it shouldn't be too difficult. You can tint the view from the menu to darken it so the screen info displays clearer

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Multiplayer ATC aircraft, feature request...

2009-08-08 Thread syd adams
That might be best . I know very little about what information a real scope displays , and intercepting a radial is the pilots job , so I dont know if I can bring myself to add that line ;). I know , Im sure you mean this as a training tool, and I'll play around with ideas , but I'd be interested