Re: [Flightgear-devel] location-in-air ... magnetic bearings from the reference

2007-01-05 Thread Torsten Dreyer
A dirty hack might be to relocate to the new position using the true bearing, reading the magnetic-variation property for the new position thereafter and relocate again using the new variation. Less dirty and more correct should be: relocate to the position of the fix, grab the magnetic

Re: [Flightgear-devel] location-in-air ... magnetic bearings from the reference

2007-01-05 Thread John Denker
On 01/05/2007 04:06 AM, Torsten Dreyer wrote: Less dirty and more correct should be: relocate to the position of the fix, grab the magnetic variation and calculate the transporter coordinates using bearing and distance. Relocate again to these coordinates. You can safely call this

Re: [Flightgear-devel] location-in-air ... magnetic bearings from the reference

2007-01-04 Thread Torsten Dreyer
That's a good point. I consider it a bug in what I've written. The canonical behavior is to use the magnetic deviation at the /reference/ point. Can somebody give me a hint how to obtain the deviation at the location of arbitrary navaids and airports? The magnetic variation is calculated in

Re: [Flightgear-devel] location-in-air ... magnetic bearings from the reference

2007-01-04 Thread Joacim Persson
On Wed, 3 Jan 2007, John Denker wrote: *) I spelled out deg. I tried putting the ° symbol in the xml file, but it complained of a parse error. Using deg; didn't work, either. Any suggestions on how to encode symbols? Not directly an answer to you question but here's a tip that may be

Re: [Flightgear-devel] location-in-air ... magnetic bearings from the reference

2007-01-03 Thread Curtis Olson
On 1/3/07, John Denker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First, some background information. Suppose we are up in the air, 10 nm west of KXYZ airfield (which is colocated with the XYZ vortac). [snip] To summarize: With rare exceptions, locations are specified using the bearing /from/ the reference.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] location-in-air ... magnetic bearings from the reference

2007-01-03 Thread John Denker
On 01/03/2007 04:00 PM, Curtis Olson wrote: we do want this to work intuitively so I would welcome any changes to improve the in-air reposition dialog box. :-) I think it makes a lot more sense to focus on the gui dialog box. Agreed. I'm coming at this from the perspective of an

Re: [Flightgear-devel] location-in-air ... magnetic bearings from the reference

2007-01-03 Thread John Denker
I found a way to make it do what I want. Here's my version http://www.av8n.com/fly/fgfs/location-in-air.xml and the diff against the cvs version: http://www.av8n.com/fly/fgfs/location-in-air.diff On 01/03/2007 05:19 PM, Curtis Olson wrote: Only if you are relocating to a nearby position.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] location-in-air ... magnetic bearings from the reference

2007-01-03 Thread Dave Perry
On Wed, 2007-01-03 at 15:36 -0500, John Denker wrote: First, some background information. Suppose we are up in the air, 10 nm west of KXYZ airfield (which is colocated with the XYZ vortac). 1) If we were inbound to the field, I would report our position as 10 nm west, inbound on the