[Flightgear-devel] Release 2.8.0 - closing release/2.8.0 branch
Hi all, I have just suggested off-list to close the release/2.8.0 branches (FG+SG+FGDATA) on Thursday (16th) in the morning (UTC) to give those packing the binaries and tarballs enough time for the task. Please shout if there are any objections. Thanks Torsten -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Memory issues
On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 7:40 PM, James Turner zakal...@mac.com wrote: On 11 Aug 2012, at 18:21, Tim Moore wrote: This is what osg::PagedLOD does, though we often forget that the paging of the higher LODs is triggered in the cull phase. I can't recall what scene modifications are / are not permitted inside a cull-callbacl, however. You would want to let the OSG loader mechanism and the database pager do their thing. Geometry doesn't have to be loaded from files... Could you outline the pieces of machinery needed for this to work? Given that we already create LOD nodes, I assume it's switching those to be PagedLOD, and setting the filename / extension / reader-writerOptions to some magic, and creating a loader which matches that, which creates the buildings geometry. That is how PagedLODs work, without too much magic. Some data will need to be passed to the loader. A low-tech way to do that is to encode parameters in the file name passed to the loader, but in this case you will probably need access to the scenery to place buildings. You can subclass the DatabaseOptions object stored in the PagedLOD to store whatever you need. You would choose a file extension that doesn't correspond to a real file type, and then register a loader with that extension. If you could point to an example of such a loader, I'm pretty sure Stuart or I could adapt his code. James We register loading callbacks using both osgDB mechanisms and some SimGear goo to control optimizations, construction bvh trees, etc. grep for ModelRegistryCallbackProxy. For the body of the loader, there is nothing special; just don't read any files. Tim -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] ..errr, guys, are we now GPLv3?????, was: http://flightgear.org/about/ text license?
Arnt Karlsen a...@c2i.net writes: On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 21:33:30 +0700, Ivan wrote: […] The goal of the FlightGear project for creation of sophisticated and open frames a simulator for use in scientific research and academic environment, […] FlightGear is a free project a simulator of flight. […] (There're numerous agreement [1] errors that I haven't taken the liberty to translate into English, too.) ..those errors are spectacular, compared to the Norwegian translation, Google's engine is better at this than the average high school student. Well, I have no data about today's Russia high school students' knowledge of English, but I'd be cautious to rely on anyone in the “average” group. To note, however, is that both Norwegian and English are Germanic languages, while Russian is not. My guess is that it may make the task of machine translation sufficiently easier. […] ..errr, guys, are we now GPLv3? http://www.flightgear.org/about/ states: Source code for the entire project is available and licensed under the GNU General Public License., where the GNU General Public License. link points to http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html which again states GNU GENERAL PUBLIC LICENSE Version 3, 29 June 2007. ..either way, that must also be license of the text of the http://flightgear.org/about/, since this About text is part of the entire project. Well, yes, there may be an omission on the About page, to state that it's under GNU GPLv3. Likewise, it could be an error in the passage that places “Source code for the entire project” under GPL — for it may've been intended to mean “Source code for the simulator” instead. (Please note that the Wiki pages seem to be under GPLv2, for instance.) Anyway, given the somewhat unclean licensing of the FlightGear Web pages, it may make sense for us to re-use the text of the respective Wikipedia articles (which are CC BY-SA), or the FlightGear Wiki, instead. [...] ..so, I'll draw the conclusion you can and should do likewise, and post your url to your translation, here, so it can be put on the http://www.flightgear.org/about/ so we can get Read the Russian translation of this page. too in its proper place. :o) Unfortunately, I'm not that sure that I could undertake such a task just now. I'd add it to my TODO, though. […] -- FSF associate member #7257 http://sf-day.org/ -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Release 2.8.0 - closing release/2.8.0 branch
On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 3:30 AM, Torsten Dreyer tors...@t3r.de wrote: Hi all, I have just suggested off-list to close the release/2.8.0 branches (FG+SG+FGDATA) on Thursday (16th) in the morning (UTC) to give those packing the binaries and tarballs enough time for the task. Please shout if there are any objections. Do we have a volunteer (Thorsten?) to tag the branches as 2.8.0 to mark the official close of changes for 2.8.0(.0)? Thanks, Curt. -- Curtis Olson: http://www.atiak.com - http://aem.umn.edu/~uav/ http://www.flightgear.org - http://gallinazo.flightgear.org -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Release 2.8.0 - closing release/2.8.0 branch
On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 3:40 PM, Curtis Olson curtol...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 3:30 AM, Torsten Dreyer tors...@t3r.de wrote: Hi all, I have just suggested off-list to close the release/2.8.0 branches (FG+SG+FGDATA) on Thursday (16th) in the morning (UTC) to give those packing the binaries and tarballs enough time for the task. Please shout if there are any objections. Do we have a volunteer (Thorsten?) to tag the branches as 2.8.0 to mark the official close of changes for 2.8.0(.0)? You might want to wait until you cut the release before laying down the tag... Thanks, Curt. -- Curtis Olson: http://www.atiak.com - http://aem.umn.edu/~uav/ http://www.flightgear.org - http://gallinazo.flightgear.org -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Changelog for Release 2.8.0
By the way, maybe we could contribute few screenshots (the best) to the OSG new website : http://www.openscenegraph.com/index.php/gallery/screenshots For the moment, FG is absent in this page. Regards, -Fred -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Changelog for Release 2.8.0
On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 9:43 AM, Frederic Bouvier wrote: By the way, maybe we could contribute few screenshots (the best) to the OSG new website : http://www.openscenegraph.com/index.php/gallery/screenshots For the moment, FG is absent in this page. How about a cool Rembrandt shot showing some nice lighting or shadows? The Vinson is pretty cool although I don't know how well that shows up as a screenshot? Curt. -- Curtis Olson: http://www.atiak.com - http://aem.umn.edu/~uav/ http://www.flightgear.org - http://gallinazo.flightgear.org -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Release 2.8.0 - closing release/2.8.0 branch
Am 14.08.2012 16:06, schrieb Tim Moore: On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 3:40 PM, Curtis Olson curtol...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 3:30 AM, Torsten Dreyer tors...@t3r.de wrote: Hi all, I have just suggested off-list to close the release/2.8.0 branches (FG+SG+FGDATA) on Thursday (16th) in the morning (UTC) to give those packing the binaries and tarballs enough time for the task. Please shout if there are any objections. Do we have a volunteer (Thorsten?) to tag the branches as 2.8.0 to mark the official close of changes for 2.8.0(.0)? You might want to wait until you cut the release before laying down the tag... for 2.4.0 and 2.6.0, we set the tag version/2.x.0-final. I'll set the tag version/2.8.0-final on Thursday morning. Torsten -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Dan Freeman and ProFlightSimulator
I am not sure if this is the right forum for my topic but I feel some one else in the flight simulator world should be aware of this. I ordered the 4DVD Edition of ProFlightSimulator from the company's website on 4 April 12; paid $150.00 CAD for both the product and shipping by credit card, and received the product shortly after. During the installation process I experienced some install and operating problems with the product and realized this was not really what I wanted and would not be comfortable in trying to run the program. Consumer confidence was lacking. According to the company's website, there appears to be an almost ironclad money back return policy promoted by a Dan Freeman if a customer is not satisfied with the product which I felt qualified to exercise. I have sent many emails to Dan Freeman requesting instructions for returning the product and obtaining a complete refund as promoted on the ProFlightSimulator website. Each response was from a Lisa A at Customer Service advising regret for not liking their product and my request has been forwarded to their Returns Department for further action. In frustration, I sent a formal letter to Dan Freeman's supposed address (13 Hickson Road Walsh Bay, Sydney, Australia) summarizing my well documented actions. This letter has been unopened and marked Return To Sender. During Internet research, I discovered an almost identical complaint registered by a Milton Brooks to your web site on 29 Nov 2010 regarding Dan Freeman and ProFlightSimulator and lack of response regarding a refund. It is obvious that Dan Freeman is a thief promoting a fraudulent product through an Internet scam. I advise every one to exercise extreme caution by not dealing with this individual and 'his' product, which I feel he has pirated for his personal financial purposes. There are more reputable dealers out there who have worked hard to create and substantiate a customer confidence in their product and follow-up service. If possible, could you please give my concerns a wide distribution. Thank you for your time, Ivan Abolit Winnipeg, MB, Canada em: alt...@shaw.ca -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Dan Freeman and ProFlightSimulator
On Tue, 14 Aug 2012, Ivan Abolit wrote: I am not sure if this is the right forum for my topic but I feel some one else in the flight simulator world should be aware of this. I ordered the 4DVD Edition of ProFlightSimulator from the company's website on 4 April 12; paid $150.00 CAD for both the product and shipping by credit card, and received the product shortly after. Unfortunately you got rooked. As far as we've been able to tell, he's selling a very old copy of FlightGear (v1.9.1 I think) as well as a number of free or public domain publications. I would really, really, really like to get my hands on those disks you got - I want to see first hand what kind of crap he's been throwing at people. Is there any chance you could copy them for me? I'd be happy to reimburse you for media and postage costs. Thanks and I'm sorry to hear you've been ripped off. If I were you, I'd contact my credit card company and have the charges reversed. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Buying desktop hardware and installing a server OS doesn't make a server-class system any more than sitting in a puddle makes you a duck. [Cipher in a.s.r] -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Dan Freeman and ProFlightSimulator
Shouldn’t some online flightsim magazines where someone has good contacts be asked to publish exactly this story now ? I couldn’t believe it, and maybe posting warnings on FlightGear pages is not enough. Maybe there are a lot of people out there we do not know, still waiting for charges beeing reversed or whatever ... -Yves Am 14.08.12 23:35, schrieb geneb: On Tue, 14 Aug 2012, Ivan Abolit wrote: I am not sure if this is the right forum for my topic but I feel some one else in the flight simulator world should be aware of this. I ordered the 4DVD Edition of ProFlightSimulator from the company's website on 4 April 12; paid $150.00 CAD for both the product and shipping by credit card, and received the product shortly after. Unfortunately you got rooked. As far as we've been able to tell, he's selling a very old copy of FlightGear (v1.9.1 I think) as well as a number of free or public domain publications. I would really, really, really like to get my hands on those disks you got - I want to see first hand what kind of crap he's been throwing at people. Is there any chance you could copy them for me? I'd be happy to reimburse you for media and postage costs. Thanks and I'm sorry to hear you've been ripped off. If I were you, I'd contact my credit card company and have the charges reversed. g. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Dan Freeman and ProFlightSimulator
On Tue, 14 Aug 2012 14:35:53 -0700 (PDT), geneb wrote in message alpine.lfd.2.02.1208141433170.31...@sidewinder.deltasoft.com: On Tue, 14 Aug 2012, Ivan Abolit wrote: I am not sure if this is the right forum for my topic but I feel some one else in the flight simulator world should be aware of this. I ordered the 4DVD Edition of ProFlightSimulator from the company's website on 4 April 12; paid $150.00 CAD for both the product and shipping by credit card, and received the product shortly after. Unfortunately you got rooked. As far as we've been able to tell, he's selling a very old copy of FlightGear (v1.9.1 I think) as well as a number of free or public domain publications. I would really, really, really like to get my hands on those disks you got - I want to see first hand what kind of crap he's been throwing at people. Is there any chance you could copy them for me? I'd be happy to reimburse you for media and postage costs. ..copying the dvd images and jpgs or pdfs of the fraudulent paperwork onto a web server may be a cheaper and quicker way? Keeping what he bought also helps us and Ivan litigate the fraud 'n software piracy. Thanks and I'm sorry to hear you've been ripped off. If I were you, I'd contact my credit card company and have the charges reversed. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
