Re: [Flightgear-devel] strange screen
On Mon, 2012-09-03 at 01:06 +0200, ThorstenB wrote: On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 11:31 AM, Alasdair ali...@btinternet.com wrote: After git pull (sg,fg,fgdata) a couple of days ago, I was presented with a strange screen which I had not seen before. My regular was shown as a sub-screen in the bottom-left corner. Clicking the maximise widget restores full screen, but any click on a menu item returns me to this stupid screen. Is this infuriating behaviour deliberate, or has my graphics driver gone walk-about? https://dl.dropbox.com/u/15936159/fg_quarter-screen.png Unfortunately a long standing issue. This affects ATI graphics cards when running newer drivers. It can be fixed by reverting to an older ATI driver (see link below). To me it looked like a genuine OSG or ATI driver bug (the size of the graphics view port doesn't properly resize to the size of the window), but it's likely triggered by something special we're doing in FG, since other applications don't seem to have this issue. Also, it's timing-/sequence dependant: it only affects certain aircraft (aircraft using wxradar, which changes/delays the OSG init sequence on startup, are less likely to have the issue) - and for some people it dis- and reappears with certain FG builds. It would be really good if someone seeing the issue locally could properly debug this - even if it means digging into OSG - since a larger number of people are affected. I tried remote debugging this a while ago, but gave up after being unable to narrow it down inside FG. Maybe someone else has better luck. For more see here: http://code.google.com/p/flightgear-bugs/issues/detail?id=385 cheers, Thorsten Thanks very much for the link, Thorsten, it is a good start. But strange that this problem, should just appear without any driver change. But I am using Debian SID, and update my system daily, so it could be OS-related. I will install UBUNTU and try the same build under that OS. regards, Alasdair -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] license
Hi saw this: http://wiki.flightgear.org/File:Joystick_Configuration_Dialog.jpg which is Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 license. Will that go into default 3.0? Hence I would use the same license to keep off scammers. Sorry, seems I've missed if default releases only contain GPL license or not. Thanks -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] license
On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 4:27 PM, Michael scrat_h...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi saw this: http://wiki.flightgear.org/File:Joystick_Configuration_Dialog.jpg which is Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 license. Will that go into default 3.0? Hence I would use the same license to keep off scammers. Sorry, seems I've missed if default releases only contain GPL license or not. By scammers you mean developers? Tim -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] license
Hi Michael, that's just the screenshot's license that you see there. Images on the wiki can fall under many different licenses. The dialog is in git and licensed under the GNU GPL v2. Cheers, Gijs Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2012 07:27:20 -0700 From: scrat_h...@yahoo.com To: flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Flightgear-devel] license Hi saw this: http://wiki.flightgear.org/File:Joystick_Configuration_Dialog.jpg which is Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 license. Will that go into default 3.0? Hence I would use the same license to keep off scammers. Sorry, seems I've missed if default releases only contain GPL license or not. Thanks -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] license
Looks like the dialog is GPL and the screenshot image is CC. Torsten-- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] license
On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 3:51 PM, Torsten Dreyer wrote: Looks like the dialog is GPL and the screenshot image is CC. The screenshot license is CC purely as this is the default for the wiki upload. No political statement was intended :) -Stuart -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] strange screen
Im running Ubuntu , still get that problem.I've added the radar to my intrumentation file in my affected aircraft , and the problem is gone.Strange. Syd On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 2:23 AM, Alasdair ali...@btinternet.com wrote: On Mon, 2012-09-03 at 01:06 +0200, ThorstenB wrote: On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 11:31 AM, Alasdair ali...@btinternet.com wrote: After git pull (sg,fg,fgdata) a couple of days ago, I was presented with a strange screen which I had not seen before. My regular was shown as a sub-screen in the bottom-left corner. Clicking the maximise widget restores full screen, but any click on a menu item returns me to this stupid screen. Is this infuriating behaviour deliberate, or has my graphics driver gone walk-about? https://dl.dropbox.com/u/15936159/fg_quarter-screen.png Unfortunately a long standing issue. This affects ATI graphics cards when running newer drivers. It can be fixed by reverting to an older ATI driver (see link below). To me it looked like a genuine OSG or ATI driver bug (the size of the graphics view port doesn't properly resize to the size of the window), but it's likely triggered by something special we're doing in FG, since other applications don't seem to have this issue. Also, it's timing-/sequence dependant: it only affects certain aircraft (aircraft using wxradar, which changes/delays the OSG init sequence on startup, are less likely to have the issue) - and for some people it dis- and reappears with certain FG builds. It would be really good if someone seeing the issue locally could properly debug this - even if it means digging into OSG - since a larger number of people are affected. I tried remote debugging this a while ago, but gave up after being unable to narrow it down inside FG. Maybe someone else has better luck. For more see here: http://code.google.com/p/flightgear-bugs/issues/detail?id=385 cheers, Thorsten Thanks very much for the link, Thorsten, it is a good start. But strange that this problem, should just appear without any driver change. But I am using Debian SID, and update my system daily, so it could be OS-related. I will install UBUNTU and try the same build under that OS. regards, Alasdair -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear Usability
On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 3:07 PM, Gijs de Rooy wrote: This is now checked in as the new Joystick Configuration item under the Help menu, which replaces the Joystick Information dialog. I think you forgot to add it to the menu? Whoops. You are correct. I'll correct that when I get the chance - hopefully this evening. While the config dialog is quite neat, and allows users to configure their joysticks, it's still not as good as having a pre-existing set of bindings. Given that it is much easier for users to generate bindings, it would be great to streamline the process for submitting them to git. At a simple level, we could set up an email alias (joysti...@flightgear.org) and have a volunteer check them for suitability and either add the missing name to an existing set of bindings, or check in the binding file if appropriate. Curt - would you be happy to create such an alias? Anyone interested in handling the xml files? If not, I'll do it. I can then update the dialog to ask people to email them to joysti...@flightgear.org if creating a completely new set of bindings. (A more advanced solution would be to have a way for users to submit joysticks bindings from in-sim, but that's a bit more or a faff and open for abuse - it'd be far too easy to press the button by mistake or out of malice) -Stuart -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] strange screen
Hi Alasdair, I also do not think it is OS related, since I have seen this 'sometimes' in Windows 7 64-bit, with AMD Radeon HD 7700 Series with (I hope) the latest Catalyst driver! At the time I thought little of it since it seemed to go away a few seconds later... by itself... In the Catalyst Control Center it shows a Driver Package Version 8.961-120405a-137813C-ATI, Catalyst Version 12.1, dated 29-Feb-2012... Hmmm, contrary to last time I checked for updates, it does now report a later Catalyst version 12.8 available... will download and try that... Now shows driver 8.982-120727a-145524C-ATI in Catalyst 12.8, dated today... Just tried FG 2.8.9.4 with 777-200 and no problem, but as indicated it only happened 'sometimes' and was never able to isolate the specific scenario that caused it... maybe as you indicate it is a/c specific... Found any reason why adding the radar to the aircraft made it go away... Will keep testing with different aircraft... Regards, Geoff. On Mon, 2012-09-03 at 09:39 -0600, syd adams wrote: Im running Ubuntu , still get that problem.I've added the radar to my intrumentation file in my affected aircraft , and the problem is gone.Strange. Syd On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 2:23 AM, Alasdair ali...@btinternet.com wrote: On Mon, 2012-09-03 at 01:06 +0200, ThorstenB wrote: On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 11:31 AM, Alasdair ali...@btinternet.com wrote: After git pull (sg,fg,fgdata) a couple of days ago, I was presented with a strange screen which I had not seen before. My regular was shown as a sub-screen in the bottom-left corner. Clicking the maximise widget restores full screen, but any click on a menu item returns me to this stupid screen. Is this infuriating behaviour deliberate, or has my graphics driver gone walk-about? https://dl.dropbox.com/u/15936159/fg_quarter-screen.png Unfortunately a long standing issue. This affects ATI graphics cards when running newer drivers. It can be fixed by reverting to an older ATI driver (see link below). To me it looked like a genuine OSG or ATI driver bug (the size of the graphics view port doesn't properly resize to the size of the window), but it's likely triggered by something special we're doing in FG, since other applications don't seem to have this issue. Also, it's timing-/sequence dependant: it only affects certain aircraft (aircraft using wxradar, which changes/delays the OSG init sequence on startup, are less likely to have the issue) - and for some people it dis- and reappears with certain FG builds. It would be really good if someone seeing the issue locally could properly debug this - even if it means digging into OSG - since a larger number of people are affected. I tried remote debugging this a while ago, but gave up after being unable to narrow it down inside FG. Maybe someone else has better luck. For more see here: http://code.google.com/p/flightgear-bugs/issues/detail?id=385 cheers, Thorsten Thanks very much for the link, Thorsten, it is a good start. But strange that this problem, should just appear without any driver change. But I am using Debian SID, and update my system daily, so it could be OS-related. I will install UBUNTU and try the same build under that OS. regards, Alasdair -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] strange screen
On Mon, 2012-09-03 at 09:39 -0600, syd adams wrote: Im running Ubuntu , still get that problem.I've added the radar to my intrumentation file in my affected aircraft , and the problem is gone.Strange. Syd On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 2:23 AM, Alasdair ali...@btinternet.com wrote: On Mon, 2012-09-03 at 01:06 +0200, ThorstenB wrote: On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 11:31 AM, Alasdair ali...@btinternet.com wrote: After git pull (sg,fg,fgdata) a couple of days ago, I was presented with a strange screen which I had not seen before. My regular was shown as a sub-screen in the bottom-left corner. Clicking the maximise widget restores full screen, but any click on a menu item returns me to this stupid screen. Is this infuriating behaviour deliberate, or has my graphics driver gone walk-about? https://dl.dropbox.com/u/15936159/fg_quarter-screen.png Unfortunately a long standing issue. This affects ATI graphics cards when running newer drivers. It can be fixed by reverting to an older ATI driver (see link below). To me it looked like a genuine OSG or ATI driver bug (the size of the graphics view port doesn't properly resize to the size of the window), but it's likely triggered by something special we're doing in FG, since other applications don't seem to have this issue. Also, it's timing-/sequence dependant: it only affects certain aircraft (aircraft using wxradar, which changes/delays the OSG init sequence on startup, are less likely to have the issue) - and for some people it dis- and reappears with certain FG builds. It would be really good if someone seeing the issue locally could properly debug this - even if it means digging into OSG - since a larger number of people are affected. I tried remote debugging this a while ago, but gave up after being unable to narrow it down inside FG. Maybe someone else has better luck. For more see here: http://code.google.com/p/flightgear-bugs/issues/detail?id=385 cheers, Thorsten Thanks very much for the link, Thorsten, it is a good start. But strange that this problem, should just appear without any driver change. But I am using Debian SID, and update my system daily, so it could be OS-related. I will install UBUNTU and try the same build under that OS. regards, Alasdair OK I tried building the same git version on Ubuntu (different gcc version) Same problem. Tried a complete fresh clone (sg/fg/fgdata) Same problem. Downloaded and built 2.8.0 and built with same script : NO problem. So this is a git problem and fairly recent too. 0- Most aircraft I have tested behave properly, but the ones that have this strange viewport problem include : c172p, b1900d, SenecaII. The viewport changes immediately after the splash screen displays initializing graphics engine. Maybe someone can figure out what these have in common that the 707, 737-300, 777-200ER, A-10, A300, aerostar700, alphajet, b29, bf109g, Bravo, c310, Citation*, CRJ700ER, Cub and pa24-250-CIIB do not. I cannot therefore attribute this problem to the Catalyst driver. My git pull/build of 12 Aug did not display this problem. That of 1 Sep did. So I reckon it must have been a commit made between these dates. Alasdair -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] strange screen
I cannot therefore attribute this problem to the Catalyst driver. My git pull/build of 12 Aug did not display this problem. That of 1 Sep did. So I reckon it must have been a commit made between these dates. So you may want to git bisect to find which commit was the problem Thanks, -Fred -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] strange screen
On Mon, 2012-09-03 at 20:22 +0200, Geoff McLane wrote: Hi Alasdair, I also do not think it is OS related, since I have seen this 'sometimes' in Windows 7 64-bit, with AMD Radeon HD 7700 Series with (I hope) the latest Catalyst driver! At the time I thought little of it since it seemed to go away a few seconds later... by itself... In the Catalyst Control Center it shows a Driver Package Version 8.961-120405a-137813C-ATI, Catalyst Version 12.1, dated 29-Feb-2012... Hmmm, contrary to last time I checked for updates, it does now report a later Catalyst version 12.8 available... will download and try that... Now shows driver 8.982-120727a-145524C-ATI in Catalyst 12.8, dated today... Just tried FG 2.8.9.4 with 777-200 and no problem, but as indicated it only happened 'sometimes' and was never able to isolate the specific scenario that caused it... maybe as you indicate it is a/c specific... Found any reason why adding the radar to the aircraft made it go away... Will keep testing with different aircraft... Regards, Geoff. Geoff, thanks for the input. My catalyst version is 12.6. But the 777-200ER did not exhibit this behaviour for me.. just a limited set planes, see my post of a few minutes ago. Alasdair On Mon, 2012-09-03 at 09:39 -0600, syd adams wrote: Im running Ubuntu , still get that problem.I've added the radar to my intrumentation file in my affected aircraft , and the problem is gone.Strange. Syd On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 2:23 AM, Alasdair ali...@btinternet.com wrote: On Mon, 2012-09-03 at 01:06 +0200, ThorstenB wrote: On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 11:31 AM, Alasdair ali...@btinternet.com wrote: After git pull (sg,fg,fgdata) a couple of days ago, I was presented with a strange screen which I had not seen before. My regular was shown as a sub-screen in the bottom-left corner. Clicking the maximise widget restores full screen, but any click on a menu item returns me to this stupid screen. Is this infuriating behaviour deliberate, or has my graphics driver gone walk-about? https://dl.dropbox.com/u/15936159/fg_quarter-screen.png Unfortunately a long standing issue. This affects ATI graphics cards when running newer drivers. It can be fixed by reverting to an older ATI driver (see link below). To me it looked like a genuine OSG or ATI driver bug (the size of the graphics view port doesn't properly resize to the size of the window), but it's likely triggered by something special we're doing in FG, since other applications don't seem to have this issue. Also, it's timing-/sequence dependant: it only affects certain aircraft (aircraft using wxradar, which changes/delays the OSG init sequence on startup, are less likely to have the issue) - and for some people it dis- and reappears with certain FG builds. It would be really good if someone seeing the issue locally could properly debug this - even if it means digging into OSG - since a larger number of people are affected. I tried remote debugging this a while ago, but gave up after being unable to narrow it down inside FG. Maybe someone else has better luck. For more see here: http://code.google.com/p/flightgear-bugs/issues/detail?id=385 cheers, Thorsten Thanks very much for the link, Thorsten, it is a good start. But strange that this problem, should just appear without any driver change. But I am using Debian SID, and update my system daily, so it could be OS-related. I will install UBUNTU and try the same build under that OS. regards, Alasdair -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] strange screen
On Mon, 2012-09-03 at 22:40 +0200, Frederic Bouvier wrote: I cannot therefore attribute this problem to the Catalyst driver. My git pull/build of 12 Aug did not display this problem. That of 1 Sep did. So I reckon it must have been a commit made between these dates. So you may want to git bisect to find which commit was the problem Thanks, -Fred Where can I learn how to do that, Fred? My knowledge of git ends with clone/pull. Suggested reading? regards, Alasdair -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] strange screen
On Mon, 03 Sep 2012 21:32:02 +0100, Alasdair wrote in message 1346704322.26230.28.camel@executrix: I cannot therefore attribute this problem to the Catalyst driver. ..one quick way to find out, is fetch a live usb distro, e.g. Debian Live, (there's also Ubuntu, Knoppix etc) put it on an usb key and boot it, it should run the free open source radeon driver, not ATI's fglrx. ..then do a build from your git tree with either Geoff or Brisa's build script, run it and see what happens. ..a third way is run your built binaries thru Wine. ..I'm looking for a way to boot iso etc images from xen and I believe I'm missing something stupid simple, hints or ideas, please? My git pull/build of 12 Aug did not display this problem. That of 1 Sep did. So I reckon it must have been a commit made between these dates. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Memory issues
On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Stuart Buchanan wrote: For performance reasons, all the buildings within a tile are a single object. The memory capacity could be addressed by changing the implementation to something closer to the trees, where a (relatively) small number of buildings are instantiated at different locations. I don't know what this would do for performance though. I've (finally) managed to get a prototype running using an instantiation of a shared geometry rather than a huge single object per tile. So far the results are promising. My standard test is at KSFO with the c172p, waiting until the intial set of tiles is loaded with standard weather conditions (e.g. no excessive visibility). With random buildings switched off FG uses ~1GB memory. With v2.8.0 random buildings, it's 2GB. With instantiated buildings at present it is 1.5GB. At KLAX, it's down even further, from 2.7GB to 1.6GB. I've not noticed any frame-rate impact. There's still quite a lot of work to do, but I hope to have this available before the next release. -Stuart -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] strange screen
Hi Alasdair, This tutorial on git bisect has references to Drupal but is otherwise very clear: http://webchick.net/node/99 You basically start from a known-good point, a known-bad one and then tell git bisect if the next checkouts are good (no problem) or bad (show the problem). Each test requires recompilation of FG and possibly multiple runs if the problem is intermittent. Hope this helps, Tom On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Alasdair ali...@btinternet.com wrote: On Mon, 2012-09-03 at 22:40 +0200, Frederic Bouvier wrote: I cannot therefore attribute this problem to the Catalyst driver. My git pull/build of 12 Aug did not display this problem. That of 1 Sep did. So I reckon it must have been a commit made between these dates. So you may want to git bisect to find which commit was the problem Thanks, -Fred Where can I learn how to do that, Fred? My knowledge of git ends with clone/pull. Suggested reading? regards, Alasdair -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel