Re: [Flightgear-devel] apt.dat changes ?

2006-06-12 Thread bsupnik
Hi Guys, First I must say I have not read the past FG-dev discussion on this ... if someone can point me to a thread title name or date range I will catch up. The 850 apt.dat format came out of about 3 years of banging our head on the problem inside LR, but I suspect that the things we've

Re: [Flightgear-devel] apt.dat changes ?

2006-06-12 Thread bsupnik
Hi Ralf, Ralf Gerlich wrote: As it seems, the X-Plane authors are not keen to go away from the apt.dat format, so if FlightGear would go away from bidirectional compatibility with apt.dat, this would result in a clear split of the databases and in ceasing the up to now fruitful exchange

Re: [Flightgear-devel] apt.dat changes ?

2006-06-12 Thread bsupnik
Hi Ralf, Ralf Gerlich wrote: There was criticism of the physical storage model of apt.dat, as it has been and probably will continue to be in version 850. I just wanted to say that, if the FlightGear project were to invent its own format - let's call it FGAPT for simplicity - and would

Re: [Flightgear-devel] apt.dat changes ?

2006-06-12 Thread bsupnik
Hi Ralf, Ralf Gerlich wrote: Well, there is the problem: if you want to database the highest level layout info, you need to standardize the high level model. Then that's where we need to work with you and Robin Peel regarding the next generation database ;-) Just to play devil's advocate:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] vatsim

2006-06-12 Thread bsupnik
Hi, Sorry to barge in again, but I work with the VATSIM guys and can tell you: you may have licensing issues...email Lefteris to find out about such a thing, but you may want to find out up-front if the licensing on the VATSIM VoIP stuff is compatible with FG (either legally or

Re: [Flightgear-devel] vatsim

2006-06-12 Thread bsupnik
Hi Y'all, GWMobile wrote: Why not just duplicate vatsim with independent GPL programming? I think the point of VATSIM (and IVAO) is that they are existing communities with user bases that show up on a regular basis. If you wrote a pilot client for FG you could then go fly online on any given

[Flightgear-devel] Preclipped or overlapping layouts for apt.dat

2006-06-14 Thread bsupnik
Hi Y'all, One of the things that's come up in the apt.dat discussions is whether the taxiway layouts should be pre-clipped (meaning there are no overlapping polygons) or overlapped (meaning polygons can overlap and there is a well-defined draw order that makes one appear on top of another).

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Preclipped or overlapping layouts for apt.dat

2006-06-14 Thread bsupnik
Hi Paul, For what it's worth, I'm leaning more and more toward overlapping, both because of your arguments, stuff Curt's said, and just tossing the ideas around...so this is a bit of a devil's advocate argument... Paul Surgeon wrote: Where are you thinking of saving the clipped data? Back

Re: [Flightgear-devel] apt.dat changes ?

2006-06-15 Thread bsupnik
Hi Guys, I've been operating under the assumption that load performance for FG is not a requirement for apt.dat because you guys are already pre-processing the file to make scenery, and could thus convert the apt.dat file to something faster to read _if_ you wanted to trade load time for the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] wiki spammer

2006-07-18 Thread bsupnik
Hi Guys, We had to put logins onto the X-Plane SDK wiki - we got spammed pretty hard. Since the auth was put in we've had no problems. *cheers* Ben Melchior FRANZ wrote: Looks like our wiki is the target of a pr0n spam bot. It obviously uses zombies, and there's no reasonable way to block

Re: [Flightgear-devel] wiki spammer

2006-07-18 Thread bsupnik
We did okay without captchas, but we are not using MediaWiki, rather phpWiki...it's conceivable that MediaWiki has smarter bots written for it although I do not know. Simon Hollier wrote: On 7/18/06, Vassilii Khachaturov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Guys, We had to put logins onto the