Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT / SVN

2008-08-21 Thread Richard Bytheway
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 snip
 
   - git works great on the Mac, or any Unix, but I believe it's never
going to fly (if you'll pardon the expression) on Windows, due to
technical limitations there
 
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FWIW, Cygwin provides git (V1.5.3.5) for Windows systems. I know that
the majority of development on Windows is now done with MSVC, but isn't
Cygwin still required at the moment for something? Terrasync perhaps?

Richard 

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT / SVN

2008-08-21 Thread Vivian Meazza
Richard Bytheway wrote

 
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 James Turner
 
  snip
 
- git works great on the Mac, or any Unix, but I believe it's never
 going to fly (if you'll pardon the expression) on Windows, due to
 technical limitations there
 
  snip
 
 FWIW, Cygwin provides git (V1.5.3.5) for Windows systems. I know that
 the majority of development on Windows is now done with MSVC, but isn't
 Cygwin still required at the moment for something? Terrasync perhaps?
 
 Richard
 

Yes, Cygwin is still required for Terrasync, and for patching as well. Its
Git utility isn't exactly user-friendly, but if you are used to CVS with
Cygwin, the transition to Git isn't difficult. I would guess for most
Windows user this is all too much hassle though

There is a Windows client for Git: Git-gui, but I can't locate a download
site for it atm. I've been using it for a while. It's not brilliant.
Tortoise CVS/SVN is much easier. Frankly WinCVS is better than Git-gui, and
in some ways better then Tortoise CVS or SVN. I use whichever is more
convenient at the time.

Vivian






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Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT / SVN

2008-08-20 Thread James Turner

On 20 Aug 2008, at 21:14, Frederic Bouvier wrote:

 Migrating from CVS to SVN would already be a very good thing IMO

Just to add some data to this

  - git works great on the Mac, or any Unix, but I believe it's never  
going to fly (if you'll pardon the expression) on Windows, due to  
technical limitations there

  - git works great with the current setup (read-only repo mirrored  
from CVS). For local development, if you can, and want to use it, it's  
pretty nice (I think Melchior has said the same thing)

  - I'd be quite happy using git's patch submission features to flood  
people's inboxes with patches :) Although the round-trip delay from  
creating the patch to it being applied to CVS to getting mirroed to  
the git repo is pretty long.

  - I'd also be quite happy publishing a public tree for someone with  
CVS access to pull / cherry-pick from, and I assume any other 'heavy'  
git user would similarly be happy publishing their tree.

My gut feeling is there should be a 'quick' migration to SVN for data  
and code, since CVS is just so dreadful - and the migration process is  
standard, and so are the tools (eg TortoiseSVN on windows is great).  
Deciding whether the primary code repos should then be git or svn is a  
more complex debate, but it feels like we'll always need both - git is  
too complex for some people, even if they're not on Windows.

James


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT / SVN

2008-08-20 Thread Curtis Olson
For what it's worth, I have started playing around with cvs2svn, but only
very recently.  I've got nothing anyone can point at yet.  Also by the way,
I will be out of town for a work project thursday - sunday.  Also by the
way, my summer soccer team made the playoffs (we had to win our last 5 games
of the season to get in, and then just barely.)  But we beat the top seed in
the first round 6-2 and moved on to the quarter-finals which we won in a
shoot out after a 2-2 tie.  This is the furthest any team I've played has
made it into the playoffs.  Now the semifinals and championship games are
this weekend and I have to be out of town for a work project.  Bummer ... !
But maybe they'll have a chance to win with out me on the field. :-)  (I had
to say that before someone else did.) :-)

Curt.

On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 4:27 PM, James Turner wrote:


 On 20 Aug 2008, at 21:14, Frederic Bouvier wrote:

  Migrating from CVS to SVN would already be a very good thing IMO

 Just to add some data to this

  - git works great on the Mac, or any Unix, but I believe it's never
 going to fly (if you'll pardon the expression) on Windows, due to
 technical limitations there

  - git works great with the current setup (read-only repo mirrored
 from CVS). For local development, if you can, and want to use it, it's
 pretty nice (I think Melchior has said the same thing)

  - I'd be quite happy using git's patch submission features to flood
 people's inboxes with patches :) Although the round-trip delay from
 creating the patch to it being applied to CVS to getting mirroed to
 the git repo is pretty long.

  - I'd also be quite happy publishing a public tree for someone with
 CVS access to pull / cherry-pick from, and I assume any other 'heavy'
 git user would similarly be happy publishing their tree.

 My gut feeling is there should be a 'quick' migration to SVN for data
 and code, since CVS is just so dreadful - and the migration process is
 standard, and so are the tools (eg TortoiseSVN on windows is great).
 Deciding whether the primary code repos should then be git or svn is a
 more complex debate, but it feels like we'll always need both - git is
 too complex for some people, even if they're not on Windows.

 James


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