Re: [Flightgear-devel] JSBSim Synch with FlightGear

2013-06-11 Thread Anders Gidenstam
On Mon, 10 Jun 2013, Erik Hofman wrote:

 On 06/10/2013 10:12 AM, Anders Gidenstam wrote:
 On Sun, 9 Jun 2013, Jon S. Berndt wrote:

 Can I request that the current version of JSBSim that is in our cvs as of
 this moment be synched to FlightGear as early as convenient for the
 synch-er? What's the proper procedure?

 Usually Erik does the synchronization. However, if he doesn't have time
 (please, let us know if that's the case) I could take care of it.

 Yes I do have priorities higher on my list, so it would be great if
 someone else takes care of it.

Ok. Here is the first version:
http://www.gidenstam.org/users/anders/FlightGear/test/jsbsim-synch-2013-06-10.diff

I have, so far, (very) briefly tested it in FG with the c172p, ZLT-NT, 
Short_Empire and MTB_20m (not in fgdata) aircraft and they seem to work, 
including resets.

Additionally, my JSBSim/standalone performance tuning scripts for 
Short_Empire still produce the same result as at the last FG release.


There are (at least :) two code issues:

1.
In src/FDM/JSBSim/models/FGPropagate.h there is a inline:d member function 
that most probably should be moved to the .cpp file instead.
GCC posts a warning about returning a reference to a temporary variable 
for it, which indeed does not sound like a good idea (the other similar 
looking member functions return a reference to a /member/ variable).
Additionally, calling the * operator for FGColumnVector3 is probably not 
going to be inlined so there'll be at least one call anyway. Input from 
someone C++ current appreciated.. :)

const FGColumnVector3 GetEulerDeg(void) const { return 
VState.qAttitudeLocal.GetEuler() * radtodeg; }

2.
The JSBSim class FGPropertyManager was previously derived from 
SGPropertyNode, but isn't now. This affects the creation of the
main JSBSim object (FGFDMExec) since it requires a FGPropertyManager 
instance to access the property tree.

I have currently changed the FG JSBSim driver, JSBSim.cxx, like this:
-fdmex = new FGFDMExec( (FGPropertyManager*)globals-get_props() );
+// FIXME: The FGPropertyManager object must be freed somewhere!
+fdmex = new FGFDMExec( new FGPropertyManager( 
(FGPropertyNode*)globals-get_props() ) );

but this will leak a FGPropertyManager object on each reset.
Hopefully there is no problem to just keep track of the FGPropertyManager 
object and delete it at reset. I have not tried that yet.

(The somewhat dubious cast of a SGPropertyNode pointer to one to its 
(JSBSim) subclass FGPropertyNode mirrors that of the previous code that 
has apparently worked ok.)


Cheers,

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] JSBSim Synch with FlightGear

2013-06-11 Thread Alex Romosan
Anders Gidenstam anders-...@gidenstam.org writes:


 2.
 The JSBSim class FGPropertyManager was previously derived from 
 SGPropertyNode, but isn't now. This affects the creation of the
 main JSBSim object (FGFDMExec) since it requires a FGPropertyManager 
 instance to access the property tree.

 I have currently changed the FG JSBSim driver, JSBSim.cxx, like this:
 -fdmex = new FGFDMExec( (FGPropertyManager*)globals-get_props() );
 +// FIXME: The FGPropertyManager object must be freed somewhere!
 + fdmex = new FGFDMExec( new FGPropertyManager(
 (FGPropertyNode*)globals-get_props() ) );

 but this will leak a FGPropertyManager object on each reset.
 Hopefully there is no problem to just keep track of the FGPropertyManager 
 object and delete it at reset. I have not tried that yet.


wouldn't it better to have something like this:

FGPropertyManager pm = 
FGPropertyManager((FGPropertyNode*)globals-get_props() );
fdmex = new FGFDMExec(pm);

that way we don't leak an FGPropertyManager object on each reset. seems
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] JSBSim Synch with FlightGear

2013-06-11 Thread Anders Gidenstam
On Tue, 11 Jun 2013, Alex Romosan wrote:

 wouldn't it better to have something like this:

FGPropertyManager pm = 
 FGPropertyManager((FGPropertyNode*)globals-get_props() );
fdmex = new FGFDMExec(pm);

 that way we don't leak an FGPropertyManager object on each reset. seems
 to work for me.

That certainly does not look right. That way the FGPropertyManager 
instance is a local variable in the FGJSBsim object's constructor. Hence 
it's address ought to refer to stack memory that could (most likely 
will) be reused after the constructor has returned.

Adding a FGPropertyManager member variable to the JSBSim class, on the 
other hand, may well be a solution. I do need to double check what 
JSBSim does with the property tree when the FGFDMExec object is deleted 
(as it is on each reset).

Cheers,

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] JSBSim Synch with FlightGear

2013-06-11 Thread Anders Gidenstam

Ok, I have pushed the current JSBSim/CVS version to FlightGear git.

Please check for and report breakages. In case of aircraft breakages 
compare aircraft behaviour before and after the JSBSim update, if 
possible, to determine if the breakage is new or not.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] JSBSim Synch with FlightGear

2013-06-11 Thread Gijs de Rooy
Hi Anders,

 Ok, I have pushed the current JSBSim/CVS version to FlightGear git.

a very quick test flight with the 747-400 showed no different behaviour than 
yesterday. 
I'll do some more thorough testing later this week, but so far all looks fine.

Thanks for taking care of the update!

Gijs
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] JSBSim Synch with FlightGear

2013-06-11 Thread Alan Teeder
Ditto here with my WIP

Thanks

Alan

From: Gijs de Rooy 
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 10:08 PM
To: FlightGear Development list 
Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] JSBSim Synch with FlightGear

Hi Anders,

 Ok, I have pushed the current JSBSim/CVS version to FlightGear git.

a very quick test flight with the 747-400 showed no different behaviour than 
yesterday. 
I'll do some more thorough testing later this week, but so far all looks fine.

Thanks for taking care of the update!

Gijs




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Re: [Flightgear-devel] JSBSim Synch with FlightGear

2013-06-11 Thread Jon S. Berndt
 Ok, I have pushed the current JSBSim/CVS version to FlightGear git.
 
 Please check for and report breakages. In case of aircraft breakages
 compare aircraft behaviour before and after the JSBSim update, if
 possible, to determine if the breakage is new or not.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anders

That's great, thanks, Anders!

Jon



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Re: [Flightgear-devel] JSBSim Synch with FlightGear

2013-06-10 Thread Anders Gidenstam
On Sun, 9 Jun 2013, Jon S. Berndt wrote:

 Can I request that the current version of JSBSim that is in our cvs as of
 this moment be synched to FlightGear as early as convenient for the
 synch-er? What's the proper procedure?

Usually Erik does the synchronization. However, if he doesn't have time 
(please, let us know if that's the case) I could take care of it.

Cheers,

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] JSBSim Synch with FlightGear

2013-06-10 Thread Erik Hofman
On 06/10/2013 10:12 AM, Anders Gidenstam wrote:
 On Sun, 9 Jun 2013, Jon S. Berndt wrote:

 Can I request that the current version of JSBSim that is in our cvs as of
 this moment be synched to FlightGear as early as convenient for the
 synch-er? What's the proper procedure?

 Usually Erik does the synchronization. However, if he doesn't have time
 (please, let us know if that's the case) I could take care of it.

Yes I do have priorities higher on my list, so it would be great if 
someone else takes care of it.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] JSBSim Synch with FlightGear

2013-06-09 Thread Jon S. Berndt
Can I request that the current version of JSBSim that is in our cvs as of
this moment be synched to FlightGear as early as convenient for the
synch-er? What's the proper procedure?

 

Jon

 

 

From: James Turner [mailto:zakal...@mac.com] 
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 1:22 AM
To: FlightGear developers discussions
Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] JSBSim Synch with FlightGear

 

 

On 14 Jan 2013, at 02:57, Jon S. Berndt jonsber...@comcast.net wrote:





When's the next released scheduled after the upcoming one?

 

  http://wiki.flightgear.org/Release_plan

 

So, 7 months from now.

 

While it would be good to have a new version of JSBSim, the whole purpose of
the freeze is to give a stable target for testing against - replacing one of
the FDMs with a significantly changed version definitely doesn't fit with
that!

 

I see Torsten has already updated that page with a new task to sync JSBSim
when entering feature freeze - as he said, the process improves!

 

Regards,

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] JSBSim Synch with FlightGear

2013-01-14 Thread James Turner

On 14 Jan 2013, at 02:57, Jon S. Berndt jonsber...@comcast.net wrote:

 When's the next released scheduled after the upcoming one?

http://wiki.flightgear.org/Release_plan

So, 7 months from now.

While it would be good to have a new version of JSBSim, the whole purpose of 
the freeze is to give a stable target for testing against - replacing one of 
the FDMs with a significantly changed version definitely doesn't fit with that!

I see Torsten has already updated that page with a new task to sync JSBSim when 
entering feature freeze - as he said, the process improves!

Regards,
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] JSBSim Synch with FlightGear

2013-01-14 Thread Torsten Dreyer
Am 14.01.2013 03:57, schrieb Jon S. Berndt:
 Outerra will be more up to date than FlightGear with respect to JSBSim.
It's hard to be the best all the times ;-)

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] JSBSim Synch with FlightGear

2013-01-13 Thread Stuart Buchanan
On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Torsten Dreye wrote:
 Hi JSBSim and FlightGear lists,

 should we sync the latest JSBSim code into FlightGear for the next
 release, scheduled for February this year?

My vote is not to sync at this point.

I'd consider a JSBSim sync to be similar to feature development, particularly
given the possible impact on a large portion of the FG fleet.

Perhaps if it was only a day or so after the feature freeze we might
be flexible,
but 4 days before the release branch is cut is too late IMO.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] JSBSim Synch with FlightGear

2013-01-13 Thread James Turner


On 13 Jan 2013, at 19:33, Stuart Buchanan stuar...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Torsten Dreye wrote:
 Hi JSBSim and FlightGear lists,
 
 should we sync the latest JSBSim code into FlightGear for the next
 release, scheduled for February this year?
 
 My vote is not to sync at this point.
 
 I'd consider a JSBSim sync to be similar to feature development, particularly
 given the possible impact on a large portion of the FG fleet.
 
 Perhaps if it was only a day or so after the feature freeze we might
 be flexible,
 but 4 days before the release branch is cut is too late IMO.

Agreed. We could have a release schedule item to sync with JSBSIm just before 
the code is feature frozen, but anyway it's too late for this release. 

James

 
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] JSBSim Synch with FlightGear

2013-01-13 Thread Jon S. Berndt
 On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Torsten Dreye wrote:
  Hi JSBSim and FlightGear lists,
 
  should we sync the latest JSBSim code into FlightGear for the next
  release, scheduled for February this year?
 
 My vote is not to sync at this point.
 
 I'd consider a JSBSim sync to be similar to feature development,
 particularly given the possible impact on a large portion of the FG
 fleet.
 
 Perhaps if it was only a day or so after the feature freeze we might be
 flexible, but 4 days before the release branch is cut is too late IMO.
 
 -Stuart

I had hoped that we could do this a couple of months ago, but not synching 
JSBSim with the latest FlightGear would be very, very unfortunate. I'm not
sure when the last sync occurred (does anyone know?), but there have been
a lot of new features and bug fixes. Development has been very active.
FlightGear will be very much behind the curve relative to the current JSBSim
state if we don't synch. I've been driving FlightGear as an external visuals
application from JSBSim lately, but I'd prefer to run sims fully integrated.
I've got another reason for it to be integrated, but I need to discuss that
with Curt offline, first.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] JSBSim Synch with FlightGear

2013-01-13 Thread Torsten Dreyer
Am 13.01.2013 20:33, schrieb Stuart Buchanan:
 On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Torsten Dreye wrote:
 Hi JSBSim and FlightGear lists,

 should we sync the latest JSBSim code into FlightGear for the next
 release, scheduled for February this year?

 My vote is not to sync at this point.

 I'd consider a JSBSim sync to be similar to feature development, particularly
 given the possible impact on a large portion of the FG fleet.

 Perhaps if it was only a day or so after the feature freeze we might
 be flexible,
 but 4 days before the release branch is cut is too late IMO.

Agreed. Unless there is no major bug fixed, we should merge soon after 
the branch day and just before the next feature freeze.
I have just added this to the lessons learned of our release plan.

Thanks,
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] JSBSim Synch with FlightGear

2013-01-13 Thread Torsten Dreyer
 I had hoped that we could do this a couple of months ago, but not synching
 JSBSim with the latest FlightGear would be very, very unfortunate. I'm not
 sure when the last sync occurred (does anyone know?), but there have been
 a lot of new features and bug fixes. Development has been very active.
 FlightGear will be very much behind the curve relative to the current JSBSim
 state if we don't synch. I've been driving FlightGear as an external visuals
 application from JSBSim lately, but I'd prefer to run sims fully integrated.
 I've got another reason for it to be integrated, but I need to discuss that
 with Curt offline, first.

Yes, i had hoped, too. However, as you mentioned, many new features have 
been developed and that violates our feature freeze rule, unfortunately. 
That rule has been introduced for exactly this situation: not to raise 
some last minute issues (to avoid bugs here).

Sorry - but as we improve our plan with every release, this most likely 
will not happen again ;-)

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] JSBSim Synch with FlightGear

2013-01-13 Thread Jon S. Berndt
 Yes, i had hoped, too. However, as you mentioned, many new features
 have been developed and that violates our feature freeze rule,
 unfortunately.
 That rule has been introduced for exactly this situation: not to raise
 some last minute issues (to avoid bugs here).
 
 Sorry - but as we improve our plan with every release, this most likely
 will not happen again ;-)
 
 Torsten

When was the last time that JSBSim was synched with FlightGear? 

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] JSBSim Synch with FlightGear

2013-01-13 Thread Ron Jensen
On Sunday 13 January 2013 16:38:29 Jon S. Berndt wrote:
  Yes, i had hoped, too. However, as you mentioned, many new features
  have been developed and that violates our feature freeze rule,
  unfortunately.
  That rule has been introduced for exactly this situation: not to raise
  some last minute issues (to avoid bugs here).
 
  Sorry - but as we improve our plan with every release, this most likely
  will not happen again ;-)
 
  Torsten

 When was the last time that JSBSim was synched with FlightGear?

 Jon

We synced about six months ago just before the last release of FGFS.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] JSBSim Synch with FlightGear

2013-01-13 Thread Jon S. Berndt
   Sorry - but as we improve our plan with every release, this most
   likely will not happen again ;-)
  
   Torsten
 
  When was the last time that JSBSim was synched with FlightGear?
 
  Jon
 
 We synced about six months ago just before the last release of FGFS.

Outerra will be more up to date than FlightGear with respect to JSBSim.

:-(

When's the next released scheduled after the upcoming one?

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