Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT]: Range of radios

2007-02-14 Thread Dene
Holger Wirtz wrote: On Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 05:49:48PM +, Steve Hosgood wrote: [...] So, Holger, if you arrange that all radio transmission packets in FG/MP carry the transmitter's wattage and the location of the source, you can work out the straight-line distance from yourself

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT]: Range of radios

2007-02-14 Thread Holger Wirtz
Dene, On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 09:02:54PM +1300, Dene wrote: [...] I've had a chance to review the path loss formulae Very simply, the height factors of the TX and Rx aerials is only used to translate what might be an oblique angle into a horizontal distance, in all reality when ATC

[Flightgear-devel] [OT]: Range of radios

2007-02-13 Thread Holger Wirtz
Hi all, sorry that I had breaking off my activities for voice communication for FlightGear the last months... I was ill and had pretty much to work. Ok, I have anymore much to work... I think I will present a beta-release of the VoIP-Com-Package for FG the next weeks. For realism purposes I have

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT]: Range of radios

2007-02-13 Thread Anders Gidenstam
On Tue, 13 Feb 2007, Holger Wirtz wrote: I think I will present a beta-release of the VoIP-Com-Package for FG the next weeks. For realism purposes I have a simple question: What is the normal range for the Voice-COM-Equipment in a plane? I think that a COM1 in a Cessna is not as one of an

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT]: Range of radios

2007-02-13 Thread Torsten Dreyer
Am Dienstag, 13. Februar 2007 15:31 schrieb Holger Wirtz: power... What I need is a simple number which should describe the maximum range og a COM1. For example 5 km? oder 20 km??? No such constant number. It highly depends on - elevation of the ground station - height above ground of the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT]: Range of radios

2007-02-13 Thread Martin Spott
Anders Gidenstam wrote: On Tue, 13 Feb 2007, Holger Wirtz wrote: What is the normal range for the Voice-COM-Equipment in a plane? I'm no expert in this area but isn't most aviation radio communication in the VHF frequency range? I think VHF transmissions are mostly limited to line of

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT]: Range of radios

2007-02-13 Thread Dene
Martin Spott wrote: Anders Gidenstam wrote: On Tue, 13 Feb 2007, Holger Wirtz wrote: What is the normal range for the Voice-COM-Equipment in a plane? I'm no expert in this area but isn't most aviation radio communication in the VHF frequency range? I think VHF

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT]: Range of radios

2007-02-13 Thread Steve Hosgood
Just a resend of a failed posting from earlier: I (Steve Hosgood) wrote: Anders Gidenstam wrote: On Tue, 13 Feb 2007, Holger Wirtz wrote: I know that exact range answers are depending from more parameters than only the output power... What I need is a simple number which should describe

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT]: Range of radios

2007-02-13 Thread Holger Wirtz
Hello *, ok - that was one of my typical need only one parameter question :-) I see that this is not so easy as I thaught... but it is not an insolvable problem. I think I will put a more or less complex formula insite my range detection. Thanks all! Holger -- # ## ## Holger

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT]: Range of radios

2007-02-13 Thread John Denker
On 02/13/2007 09:31 AM, Holger Wirtz wrote: What I need is a simple number which should describe the maximum range og a COM1. For example 5 km? oder 20 km??? As others have pointed out, the simple answer is line of sight. See algorithms below. COM1 in a Cessna is not as one of an Airbus.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT]: Range of radios

2007-02-13 Thread Holger Wirtz
On Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 05:49:48PM +, Steve Hosgood wrote: [...] So, Holger, if you arrange that all radio transmission packets in FG/MP carry the transmitter's wattage and the location of the source, you can work out the straight-line distance from yourself (call it 'd'), and then do