Re: [Flightgear-devel] The use of models from other formats

2009-02-08 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 7 Feb 2009 22:59:13 + (UTC), Martin wrote in message gml3o1$r6...@osprey.mgras.de: Arnt Karlsen a...@c2i.net wrote: On Sat, 07 Feb 2009 19:37:35 +0100, Frederic wrote in message 498dd4ef.2080...@free.fr: I don't know where this discussion will lead us but anyway, I made a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] The use of models from other formats

2009-02-07 Thread Roy Vegard Ovesen
On Saturday 07 February 2009 01:48:55 FGD ML wrote: 2009/2/6 Roy Vegard Ovesen roy.v.ove...@haugnett.no Using Blender I added a texture to one of the sides of the borgbox, and finally exported to *.lwo format. The texture did not appear in osgviewer. Looking at the resulting *.lwo file in a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] The use of models from other formats

2009-02-07 Thread Roy Vegard Ovesen
On Saturday 07 February 2009 10:22:09 Roy Vegard Ovesen wrote: As I said the .lwo file that Blender generated did _not_ contain any reference to the texture image, so I don't think that putting the image in the same path as the .lwo file will work. This could of course be because I'm not

Re: [Flightgear-devel] The use of models from other formats

2009-02-07 Thread FGD ML
2009/2/7 Arnt Karlsen a...@c2i.net On Fri, 6 Feb 2009 23:06:59 +, FGD wrote in message 9dfda0650902061506u22068722ld9a43d1ebb574...@mail.gmail.com: 2009/2/6 Arnt Karlsen a...@c2i.net On Fri, 6 Feb 2009 20:51:45 +, FGD wrote in message

Re: [Flightgear-devel] The use of models from other formats

2009-02-07 Thread FGD ML
2009/2/7 Roy Vegard Ovesen roy.v.ove...@haugnett.no On Saturday 07 February 2009 10:22:09 Roy Vegard Ovesen wrote: As I said the .lwo file that Blender generated did _not_ contain any reference to the texture image, so I don't think that putting the image in the same path as the .lwo

Re: [Flightgear-devel] The use of models from other formats

2009-02-07 Thread Roy Vegard Ovesen
On Saturday 07 February 2009 12:38:23 FGD ML wrote: 2009/2/7 Roy Vegard Ovesen roy.v.ove...@haugnett.no Do you mean grab a copy of LightWave? Yeah, why not? I heard that these days it just runs in discovery mode (?) if you don't have a dongle. I've never been there so don't know how that

Re: [Flightgear-devel] The use of models from other formats

2009-02-07 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 7 Feb 2009 10:39:13 +, FGD wrote in message 9dfda0650902070239p450979e0n2ef48491d3552...@mail.gmail.com: 2009/2/7 Arnt Karlsen a...@c2i.net On Fri, 6 Feb 2009 23:06:59 +, FGD wrote in message 9dfda0650902061506u22068722ld9a43d1ebb574...@mail.gmail.com: 2009/2/6 Arnt

Re: [Flightgear-devel] The use of models from other formats

2009-02-07 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Arnt Karlsen -- Saturday 07 February 2009: Then why are you here, asking us for freebee help? ^^ I'm sure he didn't specifically ask you anything. Posting to flightgear-devel usually means you want to address FlightGear developers (in the widest sense) -- and I'm

Re: [Flightgear-devel] The use of models from other formats

2009-02-07 Thread Durk Talsma
Hi Ian, On Saturday 07 February 2009 11:39:13 FGD ML wrote: 2009/2/7 Arnt Karlsen a...@c2i.net ..ah, that's where I try to help out. ;o) I'm sorry , I have a policy of not accepting cold callers. I hope you find comfort in the fact that 99% of our fgfs-devel subscribers is simply

Re: [Flightgear-devel] The use of models from other formats

2009-02-07 Thread gerard robin
On samedi 07 février 2009, Durk Talsma wrote: Hi Ian, On Saturday 07 February 2009 11:39:13 FGD ML wrote: 2009/2/7 Arnt Karlsen a...@c2i.net ..ah, that's where I try to help out. ;o) I'm sorry , I have a policy of not accepting cold callers. I hope you find comfort in the fact that

Re: [Flightgear-devel] The use of models from other formats

2009-02-07 Thread FGD ML
2009/2/7 Durk Talsma d.tal...@xs4all.nl Hi Ian, On Saturday 07 February 2009 11:39:13 FGD ML wrote: 2009/2/7 Arnt Karlsen a...@c2i.net ..ah, that's where I try to help out. ;o) I'm sorry , I have a policy of not accepting cold callers. I hope you find comfort in the fact that

Re: [Flightgear-devel] The use of models from other formats

2009-02-07 Thread gerard robin
On samedi 07 février 2009, Roy Vegard Ovesen wrote: On Saturday 07 February 2009 11:50:57 FGD ML wrote: 2009/2/7 Roy Vegard Ovesen roy.v.ove...@haugnett.no On Saturday 07 February 2009 10:22:09 Roy Vegard Ovesen wrote: As I said the .lwo file that Blender generated did _not_ contain

Re: [Flightgear-devel] The use of models from other formats

2009-02-07 Thread Ron Jensen
On Sat, 2009-02-07 at 14:29 +0100, Melchior FRANZ wrote: * Arnt Karlsen -- Saturday 07 February 2009: Then why are you here, asking us for freebee help? ^^ I'm sure he didn't specifically ask you anything. Posting to flightgear-devel usually means you want to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] The use of models from other formats

2009-02-07 Thread FGD ML
2009/2/7 Melchior FRANZ mfr...@aon.at Not that this has much to do with this thread, or Ian's FlightGear problems. Oh I would not worry about it, this thread has been hijacked, dragged off topic and otherwise generally killed already. Obviously starting another thread won't be likely to fair

Re: [Flightgear-devel] The use of models from other formats

2009-02-07 Thread Vivian Meazza
and not a lot of light (polite version). Vivian -Original Message- From: FGD ML [mailto:fg...@pomf.net] Sent: 07 February 2009 16:58 To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] The use of models from other formats 2009/2/7 Melchior FRANZ mfr...@aon.at

Re: [Flightgear-devel] The use of models from other formats

2009-02-07 Thread Tim Moore
FGD ML wrote: 2009/2/7 Melchior FRANZ mfr...@aon.at mailto:mfr...@aon.at Not that this has much to do with this thread, or Ian's FlightGear problems. Oh I would not worry about it, this thread has been hijacked, dragged off topic and otherwise generally killed already.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] The use of models from other formats

2009-02-07 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 7 Feb 2009 14:29:31 +0100, Melchior wrote in message 200902071429.32...@rk-nord.at: * Arnt Karlsen -- Saturday 07 February 2009: Then why are you here, asking us for freebee help? ^^ I'm sure he didn't specifically ask you anything. Posting to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] The use of models from other formats

2009-02-07 Thread Nicolas Quijano
You probably get that a lot, or I hope you do : Thanks for taking of win32 binaries, it's very much appreciated. Cheers, et un gros merci (assuming you're French) Nic On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Frederic Bouvier fredfgf...@free.fr wrote: I don't know where this discussion will lead us but

Re: [Flightgear-devel] The use of models from other formats

2009-02-07 Thread alex
On Saturday 07 February 2009 11:50:57 FGD ML wrote Yes, full pathname to the .png image file. There is actually a bug in the exporter code that cuts one character from the path string (/home/... becomes /hme/...). I also tried to remove the pull path leaving only the filename, and copied the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] The use of models from other formats

2009-02-07 Thread Roy Vegard Ovesen
On Saturday 07 February 2009 20:25:43 alex wrote: On Saturday 07 February 2009 11:50:57 FGD ML wrote Yes, full pathname to the .png image file. There is actually a bug in the exporter code that cuts one character from the path string (/home/... becomes /hme/...). I also tried to remove the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] The use of models from other formats

2009-02-07 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 07 Feb 2009 19:37:35 +0100, Frederic wrote in message 498dd4ef.2080...@free.fr: I don't know where this discussion will lead us but anyway, I made a new Windows build with the last OSG 2.8 branch with a working LWO plugin :

Re: [Flightgear-devel] The use of models from other formats

2009-02-07 Thread Csaba Halász
On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 10:28 PM, Arnt Karlsen a...@c2i.net wrote: ..excellent work, Fred, my only question is, _should_ FG have this LWO plugin? The only problems remaining are legal, the licensing and politics. LWO plugin is in OSG. If you have any legal or licensing problems about it, talk

Re: [Flightgear-devel] The use of models from other formats

2009-02-06 Thread Vivian Meazza
Ian, Those boxes import nicely into AC3D here. How about a real challenge? Vivian -Original Message- From: FGD ML [mailto:fg...@pomf.net] Sent: 06 February 2009 10:18 To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] The use of models from other formats

Re: [Flightgear-devel] The use of models from other formats

2009-02-06 Thread Frederic Bouvier
2009 10:18 To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] The use of models from other formats 2009/2/6 Arnt Karlsen a...@c2i.net On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 11:07:45 +, FGD wrote in message 9dfda0650902050307n513838b7x6f06bca893b2b...@mail.gmail.com

Re: [Flightgear-devel] The use of models from other formats

2009-02-06 Thread Reagan Thomas
Vivian Meazza wrote: Fred Vivian, apparently, the challenge is to start AC3D under Vista 64 -Fred - Vivian Meazza a écrit : Ian, Those boxes import nicely into AC3D here. How about a real challenge? PS there seems to be a workaround - here:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] The use of models from other formats

2009-02-06 Thread Vivian Meazza
Reagan wrote Vivian Meazza wrote: Fred Vivian, apparently, the challenge is to start AC3D under Vista 64 -Fred - Vivian Meazza a écrit : Ian, Those boxes import nicely into AC3D here. How about a real challenge? PS there seems to be a workaround -

Re: [Flightgear-devel] The use of models from other formats

2009-02-06 Thread Jon Stockill
Vivian Meazza wrote: Ian, Those boxes import nicely into AC3D here. How about a real challenge? No problem getting them into blender either. Jon -- Create and Deploy Rich Internet Apps outside the browser with

Re: [Flightgear-devel] The use of models from other formats

2009-02-06 Thread Csaba Halász
On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Jon Stockill li...@stockill.net wrote: Vivian Meazza wrote: Those boxes import nicely into AC3D here. How about a real challenge? No problem getting them into blender either. However when I tried to export textured lwo's to ac3d format in blender, the textures

Re: [Flightgear-devel] The use of models from other formats

2009-02-06 Thread FGD ML
2009/2/6 Vivian Meazza vivian.mea...@lineone.net Ian, Those boxes import nicely into AC3D here. How about a real challenge? Well sure they do; even I can make a box that behaves itself fairly well, for a box! For the real challenge I think you're supposed to be able to use it FG

Re: [Flightgear-devel] The use of models from other formats

2009-02-06 Thread FGD ML
2009/2/6 Vivian Meazza vivian.mea...@lineone.net Reagan wrote Vivian Meazza wrote: Fred Vivian, apparently, the challenge is to start AC3D under Vista 64 -Fred - Vivian Meazza a écrit : Ian, Those boxes import nicely into AC3D here.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] The use of models from other formats

2009-02-06 Thread Vivian Meazza
Fred Vivian, apparently, the challenge is to start AC3D under Vista 64 -Fred - Vivian Meazza a écrit : Ian, Those boxes import nicely into AC3D here. How about a real challenge? ... snip ... Well, that might be a bridge too far, and it's a good reason for not

Re: [Flightgear-devel] The use of models from other formats

2009-02-06 Thread FGD ML
2009/2/6 Arnt Karlsen a...@c2i.net On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 11:07:45 +, FGD wrote in message 9dfda0650902050307n513838b7x6f06bca893b2b...@mail.gmail.com: 2009/2/5 Jon Stockill li...@stockill.net Tim Moore wrote: I don't know what to say about AC3D, but Blender has such a large

Re: [Flightgear-devel] The use of models from other formats

2009-02-06 Thread Vivian Meazza
Fred Vivian, apparently, the challenge is to start AC3D under Vista 64 -Fred - Vivian Meazza a écrit : Ian, Those boxes import nicely into AC3D here. How about a real challenge? PS there seems to be a workaround - here:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] The use of models from other formats

2009-02-06 Thread Martin Spott
FGD ML fg...@pomf.net wrote: [...] FOr now it seems FG can only support .ac ahnd maybe 3ds, although I've not been able to do exhaustive testing. Presumably there was some testing done at some stage for all claimed formats being working as advertised when switching over to OSG? Certainly

Re: [Flightgear-devel] The use of models from other formats

2009-02-06 Thread FGD ML
2009/2/6 Martin Spott martin.sp...@mgras.net FGD ML fg...@pomf.net wrote: [...] FOr now it seems FG can only support .ac ahnd maybe 3ds, although I've not been able to do exhaustive testing. Presumably there was some testing done at some stage for all claimed formats being working

Re: [Flightgear-devel] The use of models from other formats

2009-02-06 Thread Martin Spott
FGD ML fg...@pomf.net wrote: I guess wait and see is realistically the best hope we can have for the foreseeable future. That's a bit of a disappointment really. Well, you're asking for turn-key support of a format that's just very specific to _your_ job, as the tool you have choosen to use

Re: [Flightgear-devel] The use of models from other formats

2009-02-06 Thread FGD ML
2009/2/6 Martin Spott martin.sp...@mgras.net FGD ML fg...@pomf.net wrote: I guess wait and see is realistically the best hope we can have for the foreseeable future. That's a bit of a disappointment really. Well, you're asking for turn-key support of a format that's just very specific to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] The use of models from other formats

2009-02-06 Thread Vivian Meazza
: Re: [Flightgear-devel] The use of models from other formats 2009/2/6 Martin Spott martin.sp...@mgras.net FGD ML fg...@pomf.net wrote: I guess wait and see is realistically the best hope we can have for the foreseeable future. That's a bit of a disappointment really. Well, you're asking

Re: [Flightgear-devel] The use of models from other formats

2009-02-06 Thread FGD ML
2009/2/6 Vivian Meazza vivian.mea...@lineone.net Ian, Whoa there, it's not all doom and gloom. I know, I'll live! It was just disappointment. It often passes after no more than a day depending on size! g So far you guys have shown me you are different, and I'm certainly willing to hang

Re: [Flightgear-devel] The use of models from other formats

2009-02-06 Thread Vivian Meazza
! -Original Message- From: FGD ML [mailto:fg...@pomf.net] Sent: 06 February 2009 20:52 To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] The use of models from other formats 2009/2/6 Martin Spott martin.sp...@mgras.net FGD ML fg...@pomf.net wrote: I

Re: [Flightgear-devel] The use of models from other formats

2009-02-06 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 6 Feb 2009 20:51:45 +, FGD wrote in message 9dfda0650902061251g657a7a8axe431c89adc385...@mail.gmail.com: 2009/2/6 Martin Spott martin.sp...@mgras.net FGD ML fg...@pomf.net wrote: I guess wait and see is realistically the best hope we can have for the foreseeable future.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] The use of models from other formats

2009-02-06 Thread FGD ML
2009/2/6 Vivian Meazza vivian.mea...@lineone.net Ian, I think we are nearly there. Osg 2.8 has fixed the bug: ftp://ftp.abbeytheatre2.org.uk/fgfs/Screen-shots/hunter-lwo-tanks.jpg Here we have a .ac aircraft with 2 .lwo droptanks slaved to it. guffaw Now THAT is funny - I'm sure I

Re: [Flightgear-devel] The use of models from other formats

2009-02-06 Thread FGD ML
2009/2/6 Arnt Karlsen a...@c2i.net On Fri, 6 Feb 2009 20:51:45 +, FGD wrote in message 9dfda0650902061251g657a7a8axe431c89adc385...@mail.gmail.com: ..yeah, but who _are_ you guys, and why all this weird secrecy? We're just a bunch of old guys who quite like making stuff in flight

Re: [Flightgear-devel] The use of models from other formats

2009-02-06 Thread Roy Vegard Ovesen
On Friday 06 February 2009 23:01:26 Vivian Meazza wrote: Osgconv also works, at least it does for .lwo - .ac, but again no textures to test. Using Blender I added a texture to one of the sides of the borgbox, and finally exported to *.lwo format. The texture did not appear in osgviewer.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] The use of models from other formats

2009-02-06 Thread FGD ML
2009/2/6 Roy Vegard Ovesen roy.v.ove...@haugnett.no On Friday 06 February 2009 23:01:26 Vivian Meazza wrote: Osgconv also works, at least it does for .lwo - .ac, but again no textures to test. Using Blender I added a texture to one of the sides of the borgbox, and finally exported to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] The use of models from other formats

2009-02-06 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 6 Feb 2009 23:06:59 +, FGD wrote in message 9dfda0650902061506u22068722ld9a43d1ebb574...@mail.gmail.com: 2009/2/6 Arnt Karlsen a...@c2i.net On Fri, 6 Feb 2009 20:51:45 +, FGD wrote in message 9dfda0650902061251g657a7a8axe431c89adc385...@mail.gmail.com: so we really

Re: [Flightgear-devel] The use of models from other formats

2009-02-05 Thread Tim Moore
FGD ML wrote: Hi All, Just got directed to your list today. Hope I'm posting this right as that is a first for me too. Sorry if I goofed too. Welcome! I'm one of a bunch of content makers, I recently had a conversation with Stuart, and felt it worth exploring this a bit further with

Re: [Flightgear-devel] The use of models from other formats

2009-02-05 Thread Jon Stockill
Tim Moore wrote: I don't know what to say about AC3D, but Blender has such a large community that I doubt you need to be suffering in isolation this way. Surely this is a known problem with a workaround? Before people spend too much time on that if you have a small sample model that

Re: [Flightgear-devel] The use of models from other formats

2009-02-05 Thread FGD ML
2009/2/5 Jon Stockill li...@stockill.net Tim Moore wrote: I don't know what to say about AC3D, but Blender has such a large community that I doubt you need to be suffering in isolation this way. Surely this is a known problem with a workaround? Before people spend too much time on

Re: [Flightgear-devel] The use of models from other formats

2009-02-05 Thread FGD ML
2009/2/5 Tim Moore timo...@redhat.com FGD ML wrote: Hi All, Just got directed to your list today. Hope I'm posting this right as that is a first for me too. Sorry if I goofed too. Welcome! Thanks, that feels a whole lot better now! (seriously!) I'm going to work through this a part

Re: [Flightgear-devel] The use of models from other formats

2009-02-05 Thread LeeE
On Wednesday 04 February 2009, FGD ML wrote: Hi All, Just got directed to your list today. Hope I'm posting this right as that is a first for me too. Sorry if I goofed too. I'm one of a bunch of content makers [snip...] Re the choice of model format; have you got a .3ds exporter for LW?

Re: [Flightgear-devel] The use of models from other formats

2009-02-05 Thread FGD ML
2009/2/5 Tim Moore timo...@redhat.com It would be most useful to inquire in the Lightwave community what people do for export to games. Well this would always depend on the game in question as that is what generally calls the shots in the main. OSG supports DirectX .x files, Flight

Re: [Flightgear-devel] The use of models from other formats

2009-02-05 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 11:07:45 +, FGD wrote in message 9dfda0650902050307n513838b7x6f06bca893b2b...@mail.gmail.com: 2009/2/5 Jon Stockill li...@stockill.net Tim Moore wrote: I don't know what to say about AC3D, but Blender has such a large community that I doubt you need to be

[Flightgear-devel] The use of models from other formats

2009-02-04 Thread FGD ML
Hi All, Just got directed to your list today. Hope I'm posting this right as that is a first for me too. Sorry if I goofed too. I'm one of a bunch of content makers, I recently had a conversation with Stuart, and felt it worth exploring this a bit further with you all to see if it has much of a