Re: [Flightgear-devel] Windturbines facing in wrong wind direction

2012-03-05 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 29 Feb 2012 15:33:20 +, TDO wrote in message dub106-w2842f121108382786e2dc5f4...@phx.gbl: I also suspect that the speed of wind turbines is not just directly proportional to wind speed. As far as I know, the speed is generally regulated either by increasing the turbine load or

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Windturbines facing in wrong wind direction

2012-02-29 Thread Emilian Huminiuc
On Tuesday 28 February 2012 23:14:18 D-NXKT wrote: The smoke is particle system based and thus uses a slightly different mechanism -- is the smoke really still reversed? The steam off the catapult on the Vinson is correct. Wind heading is typically the direction the wind is coming from, not

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Windturbines facing in wrong wind direction

2012-02-29 Thread Torsten Dreyer
Looks like we have two bugs here: 1. wind turbines with mixed orientations. These should be fixed in the database. If the correct orientation in the stg file is zero. 1a. wind turbine orientation and rotation/spin speed is bound to /environment/wind-from-heading-deg and

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Windturbines facing in wrong wind direction

2012-02-29 Thread thorsten . i . renk
1a. wind turbine orientation and rotation/spin speed is bound to /environment/wind-from-heading-deg and /environment/wind-speed-kt which represent current wind at the FDM position. This should probably change to ground wind. The same is true for the windsock, btw. Turbines should probably use

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Windturbines facing in wrong wind direction

2012-02-29 Thread Erik Hofman
On Wed, 2012-02-29 at 11:43 +0100, Torsten Dreyer wrote: Looks like we have two bugs here: 1. wind turbines with mixed orientations. These should be fixed in the database. If the correct orientation in the stg file is zero. I was wondering, shouldn't all wind turbines share the same

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Windturbines facing in wrong wind direction

2012-02-29 Thread Torsten Dreyer
Am 29.02.2012 12:25, schrieb thorsten.i.r...@jyu.fi: Wind turbines are probably too heavy to swing with the gusts in any significant way. Hehe - yes. Drag chute of the English Electric Lightining was also displayed blown into the wind at some point - might be related? That should be an

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Windturbines facing in wrong wind direction

2012-02-29 Thread Torsten Dreyer
Am 29.02.2012 13:05, schrieb Erik Hofman: On Wed, 2012-02-29 at 11:43 +0100, Torsten Dreyer wrote: Looks like we have two bugs here: 1. wind turbines with mixed orientations. These should be fixed in the database. If the correct orientation in the stg file is zero. I was wondering, shouldn't

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Windturbines facing in wrong wind direction

2012-02-29 Thread TDO Brandano
] Windturbines facing in wrong wind direction Am 29.02.2012 13:05, schrieb Erik Hofman: On Wed, 2012-02-29 at 11:43 +0100, Torsten Dreyer wrote: Looks like we have two bugs here: 1. wind turbines with mixed orientations. These should be fixed in the database. If the correct orientation in the stg

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Windturbines facing in wrong wind direction

2012-02-28 Thread Stuart Buchanan
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 12:27 AM, Curtis Olson wrote: Interesting -- if smoke is also going the wrong way, maybe a bug was recently introduced with wind/environment? I recall a big change to a lot of vector classes quite a while ago, possible changing from SGVec3f to osg::vec3f? The created a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Windturbines facing in wrong wind direction

2012-02-28 Thread Torsten Dreyer
Am 28.02.2012 10:11, schrieb Stuart Buchanan: On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 12:27 AM, Curtis Olson wrote: Interesting -- if smoke is also going the wrong way, maybe a bug was recently introduced with wind/environment? I recall a big change to a lot of vector classes quite a while ago, possible

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Windturbines facing in wrong wind direction

2012-02-28 Thread Gijs de Rooy
I just checked a few turbines in the Netherlands around EHAM - they all look good to me. Is there any specific example or area to check? AFAIK all windturbines I orignally submitted with 0 degrees orientation, until Jon told me to set it to 180 (and elevation to -); I think Jon set

[Flightgear-devel] Windturbines facing in wrong wind direction

2012-02-28 Thread D-NXKT
Argh! And I thought this issue would be fixed within a few minutes! just checked a few turbines in the Netherlands around EHAM - they all look good to me. Is there any specific example or area to check? Torsten Ok, I went to the Netherlands, too. Inspected the next windturbine I could find

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Windturbines facing in wrong wind direction

2012-02-28 Thread Curtis Olson
Certainly it would seem like all the wind turbines would need to share the same alignment for them to all point correctly into the wind. The windturbine uses wind-from-heading-deg which should be correct, but also includes a -90 degree offset and reverses the sense of rotation -- perhaps to

[Flightgear-devel] Windturbines facing in wrong wind direction

2012-02-28 Thread D-NXKT
The smoke is particle system based and thus uses a slightly different mechanism -- is the smoke really still reversed? The steam off the catapult on the Vinson is correct. Wind heading is typically the direction the wind is coming from, not the direction it is blowing to. Curt. Yup! Tested with

[Flightgear-devel] Windturbines facing in wrong wind direction

2012-02-27 Thread D-NXKT
Hello, just checked the orientation of the windturbine.ac and windsock.ac (windsock is working correct) with blender: windsock in +y | | | --- windturbine in -y | |-| | | | | -- That's correct, because the windsock faces out of the wind and the turbine into the wind. The

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Windturbines facing in wrong wind direction

2012-02-27 Thread Curtis Olson
Interesting -- if smoke is also going the wrong way, maybe a bug was recently introduced with wind/environment? On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 3:09 PM, D-NXKT wrote: Hello, just checked the orientation of the windturbine.ac and windsock.ac(windsock is working correct) with blender: windsock in +y

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Windturbines facing in wrong wind direction

2012-02-26 Thread Martin Spott
D-NXKT wrote: After a deeper investigation I found out that this is only true for the north- south direction. In contrast to this the heading in the east-west direction is correct. The reason is a wrong orientation of the windturbines in the *.stg files. Most of the placed windturbines

[Flightgear-devel] Windturbines facing in wrong wind direction

2012-02-25 Thread D-NXKT
Hello, in a recent posting I claimed that the windturbines are heading out of the wind and not into it. After a deeper investigation I found out that this is only true for the north- south direction. In contrast to this the heading in the east-west direction is correct. The reason is a wrong