Memories of Underdevelopment was a Cuban film, a fictional film, not a docu, very
lovely.
Burnt by the Sun, another lovely harrowing thing from USSR
Lots of stunning Fifth Generation Chinese films, Red Sorghum, Big Parade, Blue Kite
of course all those old Eisensteins, Potemkin, Ivan, etc
Eryk
find lots of cold-war period work from central and eastern
europe.
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Trying to steer the Cuban discussio
memorias del subdesarrollo is from tomas gutierrez alea
he other extraordinary filmakers from the young revolution
are in silence or leave cuba, like the photographer (antifranquista)
nestor almendros who done more than 20 documentary films in la habana
castrista with the ICAIC (film institute
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Trying to steer the Cuban discussion into art topica
[as revolutionary art is always a fave discussion topic
of mine:]
Oddly enough, the sundance channel just played
"A Hi
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Trying to steer the Cuban discussion into art topica
[as revolutionary art is always a fave
oh yeah,
i'm wrong
i'm wrong too
when i said that in cuba
there is no room for a subversive art:
the people what are making underground connectivity
are the aubversive new artist in cuba.
At 09:27 pm -0400 26/8/00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 8/26/00 8:04:50 PM, [EMAIL
c'm jay
i'm not the problem
the problem is fidel his paternalism
comunnist, out of date, noltalgic, censorship
"revolutionary" style
At 09:26 pm -0400 26/8/00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 8/26/00 3:05:43 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
oh yeah
paquito de rivera used to hear
i done ten hours of v-8 in streets
5 videos of 2 hours each
if someone want to see
i can negociate a copy
or send to someone to distribute or show
or be a part of a performance
this is part of a ywo videos instalation called
la habana-"texas"
in one video are ten hours oh habana
in the other are
In a message dated 8/27/00 10:45:16 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
c'm jay
i'm not the problem
the problem is fidel his paternalism
comunnist, out of date, noltalgic, censorship
"revolutionary" style
No, I never said you were the proble. Boring maybe, but not the problem.
A big jail??? Oh, please. The Cold War is over. Would you say the same thing about
Mexico? How about any other third world country. How much time did you spend there?
Where did you go? Any tourist with $$$ is king anywhere.
About a week ago I saw this documentary about Cuba and recycling. It
Trying to steer the Cuban discussion into art topica
[as revolutionary art is always a fave discussion topic
of mine:]
Oddly enough, the sundance channel just played
"A History Of Underdevelopment," a documentary made
in Cuba about the disappearance of hope in Cuba
post- Castro
It was
oh yeah
paquito de rivera used to hear jazz at night hiden in obscurity
because this was not a revolutionary activity (this is before
leave cuba)
now:
who have de power of written press?
anyone?
no. only de communist party.
/ the gramma is the worst newspaper i've ever read
even the cubans
people want to be free, and construct antenas to see wireless tv
or radio, or any signal to bypass this channel
This is pretty popular everywhere in the world
At 11:07 pm -0700 25/8/00, Eryk Salvaggio wrote:
Hm, maybe there is more than one mindset in Cuba?
all its possible.
but there is not evidence that someone outside communist party
can reach public opinion, or if there is any public opinion there.
Maybe some people idealize america, and some
In a message dated 8/26/00 3:05:43 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
oh yeah
paquito de rivera used to hear jazz at night hiden in obscurity
because this was not a revolutionary activity (this is before
leave cuba)
There are those who believe what they are told all their lives, and then
there
In a message dated 8/26/00 8:04:50 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
people want to be free, and construct antenas to see wireless tv
or radio, or any signal to bypass this channel
I thought you said they couldn't see American TV Now you're saying they
can?
--
jay
In a message dated 8/26/00 8:23:42 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
all its possible.
but there is not evidence that someone outside communist party
can reach public opinion, or if there is any public opinion there.
Sure there is. There's a so called "democracy movement" funded by the US.
terrible but true
to live in cuba is like to live in fifties (last century)
the cold war is not over there
this is why my upset with cuban socialism
venezuelan socialism too
third world socialism too
everybody living from state
thinking like state
working (if you have employee) for state
to live
Viva Fidel!
Jay
yeah, viva fidel, but be realistic, the embargo will be up until
castro dies and the communist government is dismantled (he will never
willingly give up his power). no politician in america has any
interest in lifting the embargo because the miami cubans give them
every
Here's the little game we play with the Cubans: they see American TV and
think the streets are paved with gold here, But when they get here they find
that it's not so. People leave Cuba because of economics. If we would lift
the embargo things on the island would get better. The Cuban economy
In a message dated 8/25/00 9:44:59 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
yeah, viva fidel, but be realistic, the embargo will be up until
castro dies and the communist government is dismantled (he will never
willingly give up his power). no politician in america has any
interest in lifting the
In a message dated 8/25/00 9:44:59 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
yeah, viva fidel, but be realistic, the embargo will be up until
castro dies and the communist government is dismantled (he will never
willingly give up his power). no politician in america has any
interest in lifting the
In a message dated 8/25/00 9:44:59 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
yeah, viva fidel, but be realistic, the embargo will be up until
castro dies and the communist government is dismantled (he will never
willingly give up his power). no politician in America has any
interest in lifting the
At 10:26 am -0400 25/8/00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Here's the little game we play with the Cubans: they see American TV and
think the streets are paved with gold here, But when they get here they find
that it's not so.
wrong
they didnt see american tv, or european tv, or latinamerican tv
they
This is not the palce to argue about Cuba. But I will tell you that I have sat in my
friends' home and watched American TV (NYPD Blue) on a Russian set. I also know the
Cubans can hear US radio because my station gets into Cuba after 12 midnight EST.
Enough said. Think what you wish.
[EMAIL
Hm, maybe there is more than one mindset in Cuba?
Maybe some people idealize america, and some people
idealize Castro?
I know that when i was in Amstterdam I found a couple
who hated amsterdam- one of the "free-est" cities in the world-
and were trying to get back IN to Cuba.
But I also have
I don't mean to jump in, but I've been to Cuba, and it's great!
You'll love it.
The people are cool.
So say all people I know who where there
The art is great!
What is maybe a little bit surprising is that somebody very capitalistic
here loved the many Che Guevara graffitis there.
In a message dated 8/24/00 11:06:39 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What is maybe a little bit surprising is that somebody very capitalistic
here loved the many Che Guevara graffitis there.
If you can get into the Artists and Writer's Union, which I did, there a ton
of great stuff.
jay
well
any tourist with $s are king in havana
but havana all the isla is a big jail for cubans
the very best places in cuba are for people from outside
while the cubans cant touch any hotel, any store, any beach
thats is why the cubans dream to live the "paradise"
amyway i was there in 1988
so i
A big jail??? Oh, please. The Cold War is over. Would you say the same thing about
Mexico? How about any other third world country. How much time did you spend there?
Where did you go? Any tourist with $$$ is king anywhere.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
well
any tourist with $s are king in
hi david,
i am so glad that you are going to be there, hope you will tell all about it.
are you going to mexico first? senseless that the usa still has an imbargo on cuba.
bye, carol :)
David Baptiste Chirot wrote:
hullo carol--
Oh I am glad you mailed your mask--am Clemente's
I don't mean to jump in, but I've been to Cuba, and it's great! You'll love it. The
people are cool. The art is great!
Jay Marvin
WLS Radio Chicago
http://www.punkblood.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
hi david,
i am so glad that you are going to be there, hope you will tell all about it.
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