FLUXLIST: Complete Works by Nam June Paik

2006-02-27 Thread Vai Becker Jason Steve
hey folks, does there have any site that provides a full chronology (similar to the John Cage database) of Nam June Paik's works? Preferably with images.Thanks___ YM - 離線訊息 就算你沒有上網,你的朋友仍可以留下訊息給你,當你上網時就能立即看到,任何說話都冇走失。 http://messenger.yahoo.com.hk

Re: FLUXLIST: automatic poetry

2006-02-27 Thread suse
Damn Dawg I've been on that site for 3 days
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Re: FLUXLIST: Spinoza Found and Lost

2006-02-27 Thread suse





  
  Spinoza Found 
  
  and lost all perception
  We deduce these kinds of one thing 
  from another as follows:
  "I say", I finally resolved, I therefore debated by sensual pleasure whether it would notstill more absorbmind is enthralledin the case of the mind is.When I saw  these that all  ordinary objects of desire further reflection convexed memany menevils arisenlove towards a thing eternalOne thingwas evident,I willhere only briefly state what I mean by true good,human weakness to this orderThis, then, is the end Must We seek the assistance of Moral Philosophy?!?!Apriori(1) Weetabix rule!(2) To speak in a manner intelligible to the multitude, and to comply with every general custom that does not hinder the attainment of our purpose.( "I say," I finally resolved, "the language might be a combination of animal, plant, electromagnetic, and poetic communication) (3) For we can gain from the multitude no small advantages, provided that we strive to accommodate ourselves to its understanding as far as possible: moreover, we shall in this way gain a friendly audience for the reception afterwards.
  Having laid down these preliminary fluxus free rules,Reflection Perception arising mere experience Perception arising there is perception arisingAll these kinds of things, these kinds of one thing from another of perception arisingWe deduce one thing from another, and sometimes two or three.
  


Re: FLUXLIST: Back to the fun.

2006-02-27 Thread John M. Bennett


This is great stuff, Cecil -
John
At 01:07 AM 2/25/2006, you wrote:
Greetings all,
I now have the two exhibitions hanging that have kept me so busy the last
three months. They may be seen
at http://touchon.com
along with roughly a CD worth of my sound collage works and two books of
collage poetry.
I would especially be interested to hear any commentary on the show
in
Fort Worth called Visual Poetry. The exhibition when I first saw
everything together really knocked me
down. I personally was very happy with the feel of the gallery with
these works in it. One of the rooms was almost completely yellow,
black and white and it was interesting to 'bathe' in the color
emanating from the works as a group.
Hopefully I can now spend a bit more time doing some of the other things
I love such as sound collages!
Can anybody point me to a good and cheap or free program for editing
sound and for converting files from wav to mp3?
Also hi to Rod Stasick and Herb Levy whom I got to have lunch with this
week.
Thanks,
Cecil


__
Dr. John M. Bennett
Curator, Avant Writing Collection
Rare Books  Manuscripts Library
The Ohio State University Libraries
1858 Neil Av Mall
Columbus, OH 43210 USA
(614) 292-3029
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

www.johnmbennett.net
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FLUXLIST: Only Don coulda played him!

2006-02-27 Thread Rod Stasick

http://www.dubyamovie.com/large.html



Re: FLUXLIST: Back to the fun.

2006-02-27 Thread suse





  Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: Back to the 
  fun.
  
  This is great stuff, Cecil -JohnAgreed joined Suse 
  AMazing range
  word/sound/image powerful--vast in 
  layer backward and forward--
  Have you broken a sound barrier with 
  this site?
  then it was unsound to begin 
  with
  thank you for knocking it down

  (I still have no electric 
  site
  I do have a large brick wall 
  downtown
  it works)
  
  But back to you--fabulous, fluxin 
  fabulous
  In re: especially be interested to hear any commentary on the show inFort 
  Worth called Visual Poetry.
  I can only imagine walking into the room
  the colors assault and correct my arising 
  perception
  the whole room informs me beneath my own 
  awareness
  how to read the signs. I vibrate between the yellow and 
  black
  those poles of the soul--intimately resonating
  this show is fucking great I say
  especially now having even greater context of 
  body
  suse
  At 01:07 AM 2/25/2006, you wrote:
  Greetings all,I now have the 
two exhibitions hanging that have kept me so busy the last three months. 
They may be seenat http://touchon.com along with roughly a CD worth of my 
sound collage works and two books of collage poetry.I would 
The exhibition when I first saw everything together really knocked 
medown. I personally was very happy with the feel of the gallery 
withthese works in it. One of the rooms was almost completely 
yellow,black and white and it was interesting to 'bathe' in the 
coloremanating from the works as a group.Hopefully I can now 
spend a bit more time doing some of the other things I love such as sound 
collages!Can anybody point me to a good and cheap or free program 
for editing sound and for converting files from wav to mp3?Also hi to 
Rod Stasick and Herb Levy whom I got to have lunch with this 
week.Thanks,Cecil
  __Dr. 
  John M. BennettCurator, Avant 
  Writing CollectionRare Books  Manuscripts LibraryThe Ohio State 
  University Libraries1858 Neil Av MallColumbus, OH 43210 
  USA(614) 292-3029[EMAIL PROTECTED]www.johnmbennett.net___ 
  


FLUXLIST: Grizzly Girl/Pardon the interruption

2006-02-27 Thread suse



Pardon this rant--I know I shouldn't --ignor it of 
course if you like--perhaps it is not fluxus related--been ranting for 
days--spose I need a blog. Anyway, I am over and out fer awhile again after this 
one... so don't fret
Grizzly Girl

Or The Attack 
of the 50 Foot Woman, Or The Two Americas Revisited, Or How I 
became a Street Thug
by Suse Allison

I recently and intensely experienced a fall common 
to the humanoid; The dreaded dark night of the soul. What makes this 
particularly dangerous forme in particular is that Ilike to hit 
bottom. I don't know about other people, but I am almost happy when I finally 
hit bottom. I act it out with a joie de vivre that only the French can make 
sound as delectable as it is. Seems a paradox, no? Believe me, the falling 
itself is agony, the subtle, daily, slip-sliding is no picnic. Ah, but hitting 
the bottom somehow feels like home again.

I am ready now, here, in desperation to march down 
the Middle of Main Street. Iremember a movie poster from the early 60's. A 
lithograph featuring a gigantic woman, crushing the highways, picking up cars in 
her hands with vicious intent. I never saw the movie but the movie poster was 
enough; her sneer is what I feel. Her derangedscowl as she wreaks havoc on 
the civilized world is exactly what I have in mind.

I am ready again, to March down the Middle of Main 
street--against traffic, just like Vesta Thomas used to do. Or As his friends 
call him, Vesta Arresta--so called for having the longest arrest record in 
Middletown History. Others call him bear, because they know him as one of the 
warmest, gentlest in Middletown History.

So, what started the fall? I quit my job. Quitting 
a job is something I have been warned since childhood to never, ever, do. It is 
like jumping off a moving train or boat-- you will never catch up again. You 
need to wait until you get to a junction, a station to change trains, or a life 
boat at least to get you to the next place. Something. You don't just quit your 
job. Well, I did. I knew I would find other work. And I did. The only problem is 
that having been diagnosed with breast cancer and the subsequent surgeries and 
treatments have left me in reduced capacity to work--at least temporarily. 
Still, if you are living simply, as we do, one missed paycheck begins a 
devastating downward spiral as the paychecks disappear completely. An epidemic 
of famine hits the home finance department and tensions rise, things taken for 
granted become precious.

And yet, I have done it before. Am I just that 
selfish? Of course I am--it is another way to beat yourself over the head as 
your outlook follows your finances into the abysmaldownward spiral. I 
havejumped off the train before and the adventures I have had along the 
railroad tracks have been some of the most intensely beautiful moments of my 
life. The paradox again is that those moments give you back reason for staying 
on the train again in the first place. As you watch it disappearing round the 
bend. 

Affirmations of living are important to those who 
dwell often in melancholy. We would trade our lives for but a moment in the sun. 
But then comes remembrance, responsibility and the emotions that tie us to this 
earth. The fantasy, it turns out is not enough, a return to obscure torture is 
demanded.( remanded?)

But the long dark night of the soul, after three or 
four sunrises does not seem so bad. It is no mystery to me why so many of the 
earliest religions worshipped the sun. What a super-yang-spirit-phenomenon with 
an accountability record like no other--except the moon. The moon!
Ah, the moon! The Sumerians called her Sin. What a 
sultry-yin-spirit-perfectly diametrically opposed orb, with a compassion and 
regard like no other--except the sun! And when both are full and round, one 
comes up as the other goes down...

So, why is one of the subtitles of this 
essayThe two Americas...?
Well, because when you are sliding down the 
slippery slope from security to despair, or, as in my case, you've already hit 
bottom-- you encounter and entirely different set of connections and 
possibilities. Points of view become clear from which you were previously 
occluded. At least in my experience, a stirring of compassion, not just the 
daily kind, with which you commiserate with acquaintances over casually--but the 
electrifying kind, the feel it in the blood kind, that makes you compassionate 
with the oppressed, or the starving, or the brutalized, or the merely 
innocent.

It is not always apparent either. I am certain that 
others feel it. Weonly need to pay attention to the rants and tirades in 
ourown speech.
What angers you when you read the newspaper or 
watch the evening news?. Is it Abu graib? It is prices? Is it another politician 
revealed? It is when you begin to rail out loud when no one is around--it is 
during those moments when you most locate your brothers and sisters; your 
kindred spirits. Those who endure what you 

Re: FLUXLIST: Grizzly Girl/Pardon the interruption

2006-02-27 Thread Ann Klefstad
Title: Re: FLUXLIST: Grizzly Girl/Pardon the interruption



O babywouldnt ignore this. Its the story of a lot of our lives. 

AK

On 2/27/06 8:59 AM, suse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Pardon this rant--I know I shouldn't --ignor it of course if you like--perhaps it is not fluxus related--been ranting for days--spose I need a blog. Anyway, I am over and out fer awhile again after this one... so don't fret
Grizzly Girl
Or The Attack of the 50 Foot Woman, Or The Two Americas Revisited, Or How I became a Street Thug
by Suse Allison

I recently and intensely experienced a fall common to the humanoid; The dreaded dark night of the soul. What makes this particularly dangerous for me in particular is that I like to hit bottom. I don't know about other people, but I am almost happy when I finally hit bottom. I act it out with a joie de vivre that only the French can make sound as delectable as it is. Seems a paradox, no? Believe me, the falling itself is agony, the subtle, daily, slip-sliding is no picnic. Ah, but hitting the bottom somehow feels like home again.
 
I am ready now, here, in desperation to march down the Middle of Main Street. I remember a movie poster from the early 60's. A lithograph featuring a gigantic woman, crushing the highways, picking up cars in her hands with vicious intent. I never saw the movie but the movie poster was enough; her sneer is what I feel. Her deranged scowl as she wreaks havoc on the civilized world is exactly what I have in mind.
 
I am ready again, to March down the Middle of Main street--against traffic, just like Vesta Thomas used to do. Or As his friends call him, Vesta Arresta--so called for having the longest arrest record in Middletown History. Others call him bear, because they know him as one of the warmest, gentlest in Middletown History.
 
So, what started the fall? I quit my job. Quitting a job is something I have been warned since childhood to never, ever, do. It is like jumping off a moving train or boat-- you will never catch up again. You need to wait until you get to a junction, a station to change trains, or a life boat at least to get you to the next place. Something. You don't just quit your job. Well, I did. I knew I would find other work. And I did. The only problem is that having been diagnosed with breast cancer and the subsequent surgeries and treatments have left me in reduced capacity to work--at least temporarily. Still, if you are living simply, as we do, one missed paycheck begins a devastating downward spiral as the paychecks disappear completely. An epidemic of famine hits the home finance department and tensions rise, things taken for granted become precious.
 
And yet, I have done it before. Am I just that selfish? Of course I am--it is another way to beat yourself over the head as your outlook follows your finances into the abysmal downward spiral. I have jumped off the train before and the adventures I have had along the railroad tracks have been some of the most intensely beautiful moments of my life. The paradox again is that those moments give you back reason for staying on the train again in the first place. As you watch it disappearing round the bend. 
 
Affirmations of living are important to those who dwell often in melancholy. We would trade our lives for but a moment in the sun. But then comes remembrance, responsibility and the emotions that tie us to this earth. The fantasy, it turns out is not enough, a return to obscure torture is demanded.( remanded?)
 
But the long dark night of the soul, after three or four sunrises does not seem so bad. It is no mystery to me why so many of the earliest religions worshipped the sun. What a super-yang-spirit-phenomenon with an accountability record like no other--except the moon. The moon!
Ah, the moon! The Sumerians called her Sin. What a sultry-yin-spirit-perfectly diametrically opposed orb, with a compassion and regard like no other--except the sun! And when both are full and round, one comes up as the other goes down...
 
So, why is one of the subtitles of this essay The two Americas...?
Well, because when you are sliding down the slippery slope from security to despair, or, as in my case, you've already hit bottom-- you encounter and entirely different set of connections and possibilities. Points of view become clear from which you were previously occluded. At least in my experience, a stirring of compassion, not just the daily kind, with which you commiserate with acquaintances over casually--but the electrifying kind, the feel it in the blood kind, that makes you compassionate with the oppressed, or the starving, or the brutalized, or the merely innocent.
 
It is not always apparent either. I am certain that others feel it. We only need to pay attention to the rants and tirades in our own speech.
What angers you when you read the newspaper or watch the evening news?. Is it Abu graib? It is prices? Is it another politician revealed? It is when you begin to rail out loud when no one is 

Fwd: FLUXLIST: Only Don coulda played him!

2006-02-27 Thread Rod Stasick


I think maybe this is a better link:

http://www.dubyamovie.com/



FLUXLIST: Cobbing bookwork on Tonerworks

2006-02-27 Thread Reed Altemus



Hello all,
After a two month respite from blogging (and YES I 
was
beginning to miss it) and three weeks of 
frustration trying
to contact blogger support and what seems like 
endless
fiddling trying to see what would work and what 
didn't, I
have returned to Tonerworks and my first offered 
postings
are again a bookwork by the late English visual 
poet
Bob Cobbing this time a 1983 duo with his wife 
Jennifer Pike
Cobbing called "Processual 2" which I posted in its 
entirety.
For those interested in visual poetry, a treat. 
Check it out at:

tonerworks.blogspot.com

Reed


RE: FLUXLIST: Spinoza Found and Lost

2006-02-27 Thread Allan Revich








Yes!



Absolutely

or maybe not



Give me ambiguity











or give me something else!











From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of suse
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006
8:57 AM
To: FLUXLIST@scribble.com
Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: Spinoza
Found and Lost














Spinoza Found 



and lost all perception

We deduce these kinds of one thing from another as follows:



I say, I finally resolved, I therefore debated by sensual pleasure whether it would notstill more absorbmind is enthralledin the case of the mind is.When I saw these that all ordinary objects of desire further reflection convexed memany menevils arisenlove towards a thing eternalOne thingwas evident,I willhere only briefly state what I mean by true good,human weakness to this orderThis, then, is the end Must We seek the assistance of Moral Philosophy?!?!Apriori(1) Weetabix rule!(2) To speak in a manner intelligible to the multitude, and to comply with every general custom that does not hinder the attainment of our purpose.( I say, I finally resolved, the language might be a combination of animal, plant, electromagnetic, and poetic communication) (3) For we can gain from the multitude no small advantages, provided that we strive to accommodate ourselves to its understanding as far as possible: moreover, we shall in this way gain a friendly audience for the reception afterwards.



Having laid down these preliminary fluxus free rules,Reflection Perception arising mere experience Perception arising there is perception arisingAll these kinds of things, these kinds of one thing from another of perception arisingWe deduce one thing from another, and sometimes two or three.












RE: FLUXLIST: Grizzly Girl/Pardon the interruption

2006-02-27 Thread Allan Revich








Suse,



I wrote a response, but it just sounded
glib when I read it before sending it, so I didnt.



But just so you know, I am thinking about
you and I care.



Allan











From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of suse
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006
10:00 AM
To: FLUXLIST@scribble.com
Subject: FLUXLIST: Grizzly
Girl/Pardon the interruption







Pardon this rant--I know I shouldn't --ignor it of course if
you like--perhaps it is not fluxus related--been ranting for days--spose I need
a blog. Anyway, I am over and out fer awhile again after this one... so don't
fret





Grizzly Girl







Or The
Attack of the 50 Foot Woman, Or The Two Americas Revisited, Or How I became a Street Thug





by Suse Allison











I recently and intensely experienced a fall common to the
humanoid; The dreaded dark night of the soul. What makes this particularly
dangerous forme in particular is that Ilike to hit bottom. I don't
know about other people, but I am almost happy when I finally hit bottom. I act
it out with a joie de vivre that only the French can make sound as delectable
as it is. Seems a paradox, no? Believe me, the falling itself is agony, the
subtle, daily, slip-sliding is no picnic. Ah, but hitting the bottom somehow
feels like home again.











I am ready now, here, in desperation to march down the
Middle of Main Street. Iremember a movie poster from the early 60's. A lithograph
featuring a gigantic woman, crushing the highways, picking up cars in her hands
with vicious intent. I never saw the movie but the movie poster was enough; her
sneer is what I feel. Her derangedscowl as she wreaks havoc on the
civilized world is exactly what I have in mind.











I am ready again, to March down the Middle of Main
street--against traffic, just like Vesta Thomas used to do. Or As his friends
call him, Vesta Arresta--so called for having the longest arrest record in
Middletown History. Others call him bear, because they know him as one of the
warmest, gentlest in Middletown History.











So, what started the fall? I quit my job. Quitting a job is
something I have been warned since childhood to never, ever, do. It is like
jumping off a moving train or boat-- you will never catch up again. You need to
wait until you get to a junction, a station to change trains, or a life boat at
least to get you to the next place. Something. You don't just quit your job.
Well, I did. I knew I would find other work. And I did. The only problem is
that having been diagnosed with breast cancer and the subsequent surgeries and
treatments have left me in reduced capacity to work--at least temporarily.
Still, if you are living simply, as we do, one missed paycheck begins a
devastating downward spiral as the paychecks disappear completely. An epidemic
of famine hits the home finance department and tensions rise, things taken for
granted become precious.











And yet, I have done it before. Am I just that selfish? Of
course I am--it is another way to beat yourself over the head as your outlook
follows your finances into the abysmaldownward spiral. I havejumped
off the train before and the adventures I have had along the railroad tracks
have been some of the most intensely beautiful moments of my life. The paradox
again is that those moments give you back reason for staying on the train again
in the first place. As you watch it disappearing round the bend. 











Affirmations of living are important to those who dwell
often in melancholy. We would trade our lives for but a moment in the sun. But
then comes remembrance, responsibility and the emotions that tie us to this
earth. The fantasy, it turns out is not enough, a return to obscure torture is
demanded.( remanded?)











But the long dark night of the soul, after three or four
sunrises does not seem so bad. It is no mystery to me why so many of the
earliest religions worshipped the sun. What a super-yang-spirit-phenomenon with
an accountability record like no other--except the moon. The moon!





Ah, the moon! The Sumerians called her Sin. What a
sultry-yin-spirit-perfectly diametrically opposed orb, with a compassion and
regard like no other--except the sun! And when both are full and round, one
comes up as the other goes down...











So, why is one of the subtitles of this essayThe two Americas...?





Well, because when you are sliding down the slippery slope
from security to despair, or, as in my case, you've already hit bottom-- you
encounter and entirely different set of connections and possibilities. Points
of view become clear from which you were previously occluded. At least in my
experience, a stirring of compassion, not just the daily kind, with which you
commiserate with acquaintances over casually--but the electrifying kind, the feel
it in the blood kind, that makes you compassionate with the oppressed, or the
starving, or the brutalized, or the merely innocent.











It is not always apparent 

Re: FLUXLIST: Cobbing bookwork on Tonerworks

2006-02-27 Thread Reid Wood
Reed-Very nice work ... glad to see you publishing on your blog again. I continue to add things to mine athttp://havent-gardeart.blogspot.comThe other ReidReid Wood (State of Being)"Haven't-Garde Art"[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://havent-gardeart.blogspot.comOn Feb 27, 2006, at 2:08 PM, Reed Altemus wrote:Hello all,After a two month respite from blogging (and YES I wasbeginning to miss it) and three weeks of frustration tryingto contact blogger support and what seems like endlessfiddling trying to see what would work and what didn't, Ihave returned to Tonerworks and my first offered postingsare again a bookwork by the late English visual poetBob Cobbing this time a 1983 duo with his wife Jennifer PikeCobbing called "Processual 2" which I posted in its entirety.For those interested in visual poetry, a treat. Check it out at: tonerworks.blogspot.com Reed  

Re: FLUXLIST: Cobbing bookwork on Tonerworks

2006-02-27 Thread Reed Altemus



Reid,
Yes, I've been following your bloggings daily since 
you started. 
All looks good...
Reed

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Reid Wood 
  
  To: FLUXLIST@scribble.com 
  Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 9:55 
  PM
  Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: Cobbing bookwork 
  on Tonerworks
  
  Reed-
  Very nice work ... glad to see 
  you publishing on your blog again. I continue to add things to mine at
  
  http://havent-gardeart.blogspot.com
  
  The other Reid
  
  Reid Wood (State of Being)
  "Haven't-Garde Art"
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  http://havent-gardeart.blogspot.com
  
  
  On Feb 27, 2006, at 2:08 PM, Reed Altemus wrote:
  
Hello all,
After a two month respite from 
blogging (and YES I was
beginning to miss it) and three 
weeks of frustration trying
to contact blogger support and 
what seems like endless
fiddling trying to see what 
would work and what didn't, I
have returned to Tonerworks and 
my first offered postings
are again a bookwork by the late 
English visual poet
Bob Cobbing this time a 1983 duo 
with his wife Jennifer Pike
Cobbing called "Processual 2" 
which I posted in its entirety.
For those interested in visual 
poetry, a treat. Check it out at:

tonerworks.blogspot.com

Reed