Re: [fonc] When natural language fails!

2013-04-12 Thread GrrrWaaa
It doesn't reply forty-two? http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081019212355AAHkApl On Apr 9, 2013, at 5:48 PM, Casey Ransberger wrote: It's tragic that Siri can't tell me what you get when you multiply six by nine. ___ fonc mailing

Re: [fonc] When natural language fails!

2013-04-12 Thread John Carlson
Base 13 folks. On Apr 12, 2013 3:41 AM, GrrrWaaa grrrw...@gmail.com wrote: It doesn't reply forty-two? http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081019212355AAHkApl On Apr 9, 2013, at 5:48 PM, Casey Ransberger wrote: It's tragic that Siri can't tell me what you get when you multiply

[fonc] CodeSpells. Learn how to program Java by writing spells for a 3D environment.

2013-04-12 Thread John Carlson
http://www.jacobsschool.ucsd.edu/news/news_releases/release.sfe?id=1347 ___ fonc mailing list fonc@vpri.org http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc

Re: [fonc] Layering, Thinking and Computing

2013-04-12 Thread Tristan Slominski
I had this long response drafted criticizing Bloom/CALM and Lightweight Time Warps, when I realized that we are probably again not aligned as to which meta level we're discussing. (my main criticism of Bloom/CALM was assumption of timesteps, which is an indicator of a meta-framework relying on

Re: [fonc] CodeSpells. Learn how to program Java by writing spells for a 3D environment.

2013-04-12 Thread David Barbour
Neat! I love how the IDE looks like a spellbook. There is also an associated paper, On the Nature of Fires and How to Spark Them When You’re Not There [1]. [1] http://db.grinnell.edu/sigcse/sigcse2013/Program/viewAcceptedProposal.pdf?sessionType=papersessionNumber=252 I've occasionally

Re: [fonc] Layering, Thinking and Computing

2013-04-12 Thread John Pratt
I feel like these discussions are tangential to the larger issues brought up on FONC and just serve to indulge personal interest discussions. Aren't any of us interested in revolution? It won't start with digging into existing stuff like this. On Apr 12, 2013, at 11:13 AM, Tristan Slominski

Re: [fonc] CodeSpells. Learn how to program Java by writing spells for a 3D environment.

2013-04-12 Thread Josh Grams
On 2013-04-12 11:11AM, David Barbour wrote: I've occasionally contemplated developing such a game: program the behavior of your team of goblins (who may have different strengths, capabilities, and some behavioral habits/quirks) to get through a series of puzzles, with players building/managing a

Re: [fonc] CodeSpells. Learn how to program Java by writing spells for a 3D environment.

2013-04-12 Thread John Pratt
Fine, but what does that have to do with setting the fundamentals of new computing? Is this just a mailing list for computer scientist to jerk off? On Apr 12, 2013, at 1:00 PM, Josh Grams wrote: On 2013-04-12 11:11AM, David Barbour wrote: I've occasionally contemplated developing such a

[fonc] FONC: The Fanboy Mailing List With No Productivity

2013-04-12 Thread John Pratt
This is just like open source software. A bunch of feelgood people hangin' out and messin' around, not ever doing anything, but pretending they are getting somewhere by indulging themselves. No one on here is probably working on the Fundamentals of New Computing. This is just a trash bin for

Re: [fonc] CodeSpells. Learn how to program Java by writing spells for a 3D environment.

2013-04-12 Thread shaun gilchrist
One of the fundamentals we are all still grasping at is how to teach programming. These are links to people attempting to contribute something meaningful in that direction rather than posting derisive comments and blatant cult related wing nuttery which, in fact, have nothing to do with computing.

Re: [fonc] Layering, Thinking and Computing

2013-04-12 Thread David Barbour
On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 11:07 AM, Tristan Slominski tristan.slomin...@gmail.com wrote: my main criticism of Bloom/CALM was assumption of timesteps, which is an indicator of a meta-framework relying on something else to implement it within reality At the moment, we don't know whether or not

Re: [fonc] CodeSpells. Learn how to program Java by writing spells for a 3D environment.

2013-04-12 Thread Igor Stasenko
Colobot http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colobot -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko. ___ fonc mailing list fonc@vpri.org http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc

Re: [fonc] Layering, Thinking and Computing

2013-04-12 Thread David Barbour
Existing stuff from outside of mainstream is exactly what you should be digging into. On Apr 12, 2013 12:08 PM, John Pratt jpra...@gmail.com wrote: I feel like these discussions are tangential to the larger issues brought up on FONC and just serve to indulge personal interest discussions.

Re: [fonc] FONC: The Fanboy Mailing List With No Productivity

2013-04-12 Thread Steve Taylor
John Pratt wrote: This is the fanboy list for Alan Kay. Well, in a certain sense it is. I'm here because I'm interested in what VPRI are doing, and in what like minded people are interested in. It suits me just fine apart from the occasional tantrums some people have. Steve

Re: [fonc] FONC: The Fanboy Mailing List With No Productivity

2013-04-12 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 12 April 2013 22:18, John Pratt jpra...@gmail.com wrote: This is just like open source software. A bunch of feelgood people hangin' out and messin' around, not ever doing anything, but pretending they are getting somewhere by indulging themselves. No one on here is probably working on

[fonc] Call for GSoC students on Scala ACP related projects

2013-04-12 Thread Andre van Delft
The Scala team at EPFL Lausanne is this year again a mentoring organization for the Google Summer of Code, a global program that offers students stipends to write code for open source projects. Following a presentation I gave there a month ago, the Scala team has included two projects for GSoC

Re: [fonc] CodeSpells. Learn how to program Java by writing spells for a 3D environment.

2013-04-12 Thread John Carlson
Btw, is this the same Griswold of Snobol and Icon (programming languages) fame? On Apr 12, 2013 3:20 PM, shaun gilchrist shaunxc...@gmail.com wrote: One of the fundamentals we are all still grasping at is how to teach programming. These are links to people attempting to contribute something

Re: [fonc] When natural language fails!

2013-04-12 Thread David Barbour
Elephant has nothing to do with voice, nor even with natural language, but rather with a new approach to control (based on 'speech acts' - requests, commitments, promises) and state (based on recording and reviewing speech acts). But it's still a good read. On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 10:05 PM,