Re: [fonc] 90% glue code

2013-04-19 Thread Casey Ransberger
WRT the 90% guess, I usually go for 80% on stuff like that when I make a SWAG where it smells like a Pareto distribution. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareto_principle http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareto_distribution On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 7:52 PM, David Barbour dmbarb...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [fonc] 90% glue code

2013-04-19 Thread Casey Ransberger
This Licklider guy is interesting. CS + psych = cool. This conversation makes me think of things Hofstadter wrote about with regard to isomorphism in Gödel, Escher, Bach. I only have one or two very small things to contribute here. Esperanto doesn't seem to have caught on, and sometimes a good

Re: [fonc] 90% glue code

2013-04-19 Thread Alan Kay
The only really good -- and reasonable accurate -- book about the history of Lick, ARPA-IPTO (no D, that is went things went bad), and Xerox PARC is Dream Machines by Mitchel Waldrop. Cheers, Alan From: Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net To:

Re: [fonc] 90% glue code

2013-04-19 Thread Casey Ransberger
It's on the reading list now. Thank you! On Apr 19, 2013, at 5:56 AM, Alan Kay alan.n...@yahoo.com wrote: Wow, automatic spelling correctors suck, especially early in the morning The only really good -- and reasonably accurate -- book about the history of Lick, ARPA-IPTO (no D, that

Re: [fonc] 90% glue code

2013-04-19 Thread Rat Xue
So who cares about functionality we need to mechanically refactor the glue. On 19 April 2013 17:32, David Barbour dmbarb...@gmail.com wrote: But in this case you've got a square law in play (i.e. N^2 edges for N components). So the Pareto distribution becomes 96%-4%. On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at

Re: [fonc] 90% glue code

2013-04-19 Thread Simon Forman
This might be of interest. Over the last century a small group of people, working largely independently and in isolation, have discovered and refined an Universal Language. This is a logic-symbolic notation, not a spoken language (i.e. not like Esperanto), that captures and expresses the essence

Re: [fonc] 90% glue code

2013-04-19 Thread Simon Forman
On 4/19/13, Simon Forman forman.si...@gmail.com wrote: Shroup, http://www.lawsofform.org/ Ooops! That should be Shoup, not Shroup. The history of mankind for the last four centuries is rather like that of an imprisoned sleeper, stirring clumsily and uneasily while the prison that restrains

[fonc] Report Card

2013-04-19 Thread Casey Ransberger
I wanted to send this message out after the final status report, but since that's indefinitely delayed (keep going!) I'm just going to do it now. Easy question: has keeping this dialogue open been useful to the folks at VPRI, or has it been more of a burden than anything else? I can