One issue which will be interesting for the Wolfram language is whether
it evolves or stagnates across the years and decades.
Would language features be allowed, if they disrupt some of the vast
library? For example, Java can still be regarded as two languages: one
that's thread-safe and one
John Carlson yottz...@gmail.com writes:
I'm not quite sure what makes it better than XML except people love to
hate XML.
There are reasons for that ;)
http://homepages.inf.ed.ac.uk/wadler/topics/xml.html#xml-essence
Cheers,
Chris
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Martin McClure martin.mccl...@gemtalksystems.com writes:
On 01/16/2014 10:58 AM, John Carlson wrote:
What I was thinking was evolving space travel. If it is a physics
engine, could it evolve warp drive? Rockets?
It'd be fun to see rockets evolve. Should be possible; we understand the
John Carlson yottz...@gmail.com writes:
I'm not sure why evolving explosions is a bug. You just want to make sure
you survive afterwards.
It's a great evolutionary strategy. There's no need to survive either;
the situation is basically you will be killed in a few seconds, but the
quicker you
myself strategy from Karl Sims
videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBgG_VSP7f8
Do you remember where you saw that, Chris?
Cheers,
Robert Feldt
On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 4:29 PM, Chris Warburton chriswa...@googlemail.com
wrote:
Pavel Bažant pbaz...@gmail.com writes:
I am
BGB cr88...@gmail.com writes:
it is sad, in premise, that hard-coded Visual Studio projects, and raw
Makefiles, are often easier to get to work when things don't go just
right. well, that and one time recently managing to apparently get on
the bad side of some developers for a FOSS GPL
David Leibs david.le...@oracle.com writes:
Hi Chris,
I get your point but I have really grown to dislike that phrase Worse
is Better. Worse is never better. Worse is always worse and worse
never reduces to better under any set of natural rewrite rules. Yes
there are advantages in the short
David Barbour dmbarb...@gmail.com writes:
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 12:37 PM, Chris Warburton chriswa...@googlemail.com
wrote:
In the case of an OS, providing a dumb box to draw on is much easier
than a complete, complementary suite of MVC/Morphic/etc. components,
even though developers
Alan Kay alan.n...@yahoo.com writes:
One of the interesting misunderstandings was that Apple and then MS
didn't really understand the universal viewing mechanism (MVC) so they
thought views with borders around them were windows and view without
borders were part of desktop publishing, but in
Martin McClure martin.mccl...@gemtalksystems.com writes:
Where a hash comes in is if you want the identifiers generated in
different places to be the *same* if the content being identified is
the same -- you hash the content, and the resulting hash is the
identifier. If the identifiers must
John Carlson yottz...@gmail.com writes:
I encourage you to leverage HTML and JavaScript to the extent you need
to, but beware of more understandable protocols happening at the same
level or above. Sometimes giving up expressive power can be better in
the short run to gain market share. That
David Barbour dmbarb...@gmail.com writes:
Text is also one of the problems I've been banging my head against since
Friday. Thing is, I really hate escapes. They have this nasty geometric
progression when dealing with deeply quoted code:
{} - {{\}} - {{{\\\}\}} - \\\}\\\}\}} -
David Barbour dmbarb...@gmail.com writes:
My own plan is to implement a streamable, strongly typed, capability-secure
TC bytecode (Awelon Bytecode, ABC) and build up from there, perhaps
targeting Unity and/or developing a web-app IDE for visualization. (Unity
is a tempting target for me due
Alan Kay alan.n...@yahoo.com writes:
When I said even scientists go against their training I was also
pointing out really deep problems in humanity's attempts at thinking
(we are quite terrible thinkers!).
I think a quite modest improvement would be more powerful
calculators. For example, we
Alan Kay alan.n...@yahoo.com writes:
Many of the commenters on this list have missed that evidence and
data requires a fruitful context -- even to consider them! -- and
that better tools and data will only tend to help those who are
already set up epistemologically to use them wisely. (And
David Barbour dmbarb...@gmail.com writes:
But favoring a simpler programming model - e.g. one with only
integers, and where the only operation is to add or compare them
-might also help.
If the problem domain is X then I agree a minimal X-specific DSL is a
good idea, although purely numeric
John Nilsson j...@milsson.nu writes:
Even if the different domains are different it should still be possible to
generalize the basic framework and strategy used.
I imagine layers of models each constrained by the upper metamodel and a
fitness function feeding a generator to create the next
Eugen Leitl eu...@leitl.org writes:
On Wed, Sep 04, 2013 at 04:28:52PM -0700, Simon Forman wrote:
There is a (the?) universal logical notation being elucidated right now that
seems to me to be very promising for this sort of stuff.
Is it intrinsically massively parallel? If it isn't, it's
David Barbour dmbarb...@gmail.com writes:
Regarding the language under-the-hood: If we want to automate software
development, we would gain a great deal of efficiency and robustness by
focusing on languages whose programs are easy to evaluate, and that will
(a) be meaningful/executable by
David Barbour dmbarb...@gmail.com writes:
I agree we can gain some inspirations from life. Genetic programming,
neural networks, the development of robust systems in terms of reactive
cycles, focus on adaptive rather than abstractive computation.
But it's easy to forget that life had
David Barbour dmbarb...@gmail.com writes:
On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 5:35 AM, Chris Warburton
chriswa...@googlemail.comwrote:
there can often be a semantic cost in trying to assign meaning
to arbitrary combinations of tokens. This can complicate the runtime
(eg. using different stacks
John Carlson yottz...@gmail.com writes:
On Sep 5, 2013 11:57 AM, David Barbour dmbarb...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 9:41 AM, John Carlson yottz...@gmail.com wrote:
Has anyone done research on improving programs? I know of some where
you try to find bugs in programs. What
David Barbour dmbarb...@gmail.com writes:
There are actually several ways to compose predictive/learning systems. The
simple compositions: they can be chained, hierarchical, or run in parallel
(combining independent estimates). More complicated composition: use
speculative evaluation to feed
John Carlson yottz...@gmail.com writes:
If there truly is a universal language, is it a systems language? A logic
language can describe hardware. What about things like pointers? Have
they come up with self-referential logic?
On Apr 20, 2013 11:18 PM, John Carlson yottz...@gmail.com wrote:
David Barbour dmbarb...@gmail.com writes:
relying on global knowledge when designing an actor system seems, to me,
not to be the right way
In our earlier discussion, you mentioned that actors model can be used to
implement lambda calculus. And this is true, given bog standard actors
model.
David Barbour dmbarb...@gmail.com writes:
On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 1:48 AM, Casey Ransberger
casey.obrie...@gmail.comwrote:
The computer is going to keep getting smaller. How do you program a phone?
It would be nice to be able to just talk to it, but it needs to be able --
in a programming
Carl Gundel ca...@psychesystems.com writes:
LOL! I love your example. :-)
I used to work at a company working on natural language processing (in
Smalltalk no less). We had more than a dozen doctorate linguists and
computational linguists working at LingoMotors. Here's just one single and
John Carlson yottz...@gmail.com writes:
Sometimes I think that something like http://leapmotion.com will use
something like Ameslan to revolutionize programming. Maybe programming
will become less sedentary and more like dance dance revolution.
It depends on the programmer how sedentary they
David Barbour dmbarb...@gmail.com writes:
I also think that tonal audio output may be preferable to spoken output
as the amount of data increases. For example, imagine a service monitor
that hums along as requests are processed, becoming discordant when it
starts seeing error messages. This
John Carlson yottz...@gmail.com writes:
So is anyone looking at binary parser generators? It would seem like
something like this would have been done ages ago.
Brings to mind Every Bit Counts. It's a library for serialising and
deserialising datatypes by using each bit as a yes/no answer, eg.
Jan Wedekind j...@wedesoft.de writes:
Hi,
After reading John Tromp's paper [1] (also see De Bruijn Index [2])
I got very interested in Binary Lambda Calculus (BLC). In my little
spare time I implemented a BLC interpreter in C [3, 4].
I thought it would be interesting to share it on this
Casey Ransberger casey.obrie...@gmail.com writes:
On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 1:15 PM, Casey Ransberger
casey.obrie...@gmail.com wrote:
Didn't know this term, and worrying that I was completely
misunderstanding
the use of the term behavior, I googled and found these:
J. Andrew Rogers and...@jarbox.org writes:
On Feb 15, 2013, at 12:10 AM, John Carlson yottz...@gmail.com wrote:
REST is commonly used to transport XML or JSON or similar. Parsing
JSON or XML encoding structures is quite slow because they are
intrinsically inefficient as wire encoding formats.
On Friday 12 August 2011 21:23:23 BGB wrote:
newer Linux distros also seem to do similar to Windows, by default
running everything under a default user account, but requiring
authorization to elevate the rights of applications (to root), although
albeit with considerably more retyping of
On Friday 05 August 2011 11:43:04 BGB wrote:
On 8/4/2011 6:19 PM, Alan Kay wrote:
Here's the link to the paper
http://www.vpri.org/pdf/rn2005001_learning.pdf
inference:
it is not that basic math and physics are fundamentally so difficult to
understand...
but that many classes portray
On Friday 05 August 2011 20:22:21 BGB wrote:
On 8/5/2011 11:56 AM, Wesley Smith wrote:
vectors are nice though.
for example, in the book I had, some aspects of the topic were expressed
in terms of a mess of trigonometry which wouldn't really work correctly
in 3D. some of these topics were
On Tuesday 02 August 2011 00:43:57 BGB wrote:
On 8/1/2011 3:24 PM, Simon Forman wrote:
On 7/27/11, Chris Warburtonchriswa...@googlemail.com wrote:
snip
(maybe relevant but no really to comment).
Another reason I would argue against something like types based on
Physics is that Physics
On Wednesday 27 July 2011 20:54:48 David Barbour wrote:
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 10:41 AM, Chris Warburton
chriswa...@googlemail.com
wrote:
Locality: Mentioned in passing for relativity, but locality is a very
useful property that holds for most Physics: stuff happens because
wants to study the Universe, because it's too tedious and
unfathomable ;)
Cheers,
Chris Warburton
PS: My degree was in Physics and Computer Science :)
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translations (eg. compilation).
Thanks,
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happens to be sat in front of our metal
+silicon box at the moment.
Does this gel with other people's thoughts of 'eternal computing'?
Thanks,
Chris Warburton
PS: I'm afraid I can't contribute much to the hardcore biology
discussion, as it's way beyond me (my background is Physics and Computer
of biology think of this?
Thanks,
Chris Warburton
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hits to find out how to do simple things like
eval(), file IO, etc.)
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CPU (Javascript engine), storage (cookies, HTML5
local SQL, ...), networking (XMLHttpRequest, WebSockets, ...), display
(DOM, canvas, WebGL, SVG, ...), IO interrupts (events) and so on.
Can I ask how this is not an OS?
Regards,
Chris Warburton
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Somewhat similar to this discussion, but more focused on live-coding
performances rather than studio production, is Text which was
presented at a local computer meetup recently by its author[1]. It's a
drag 'n' drop interface where component names and parameters are typed
in and connected
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