Re: [fonc] Task management in a world without apps.

2013-11-04 Thread karl ramberg
much more complex and the problems to solve orders of magnitude harder to solve. That said, Smalltalk 80 have a pretty nice readability and that counts for a lot in my book :-) Best regards, Karl On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Alan Kay alan.n...@yahoo.com wrote: When I mention Smalltalk I always

Re: [fonc] Task management in a world without apps.

2013-11-03 Thread karl ramberg
are versioned by the whole project. It is also quite hard to reuse separate parts and share is with others. Now you must share a whole project and pull out the parts you want. I look forward to using more rugged tools for instance programming/ creation :-) Karl On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 5:31 PM

Re: [fonc] Compiling COLA on x86_64

2013-10-20 Thread Karl
? -Karl ___ fonc mailing list fonc@vpri.org http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc

Re: [fonc] Final STEP progress report abandoned?

2013-09-03 Thread karl ramberg
? What are the future man using computers for ? Karl On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 2:01 PM, Alan Kay alan.n...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Kevin At some point I'll gather enough brain cells to do the needed edits and get the report on the Viewpoints server. Dan Amelang is in the process of writing his

[fonc] New Bret Victor demos

2013-05-29 Thread karl ramberg
/#!/MediaForThinkingTheUnthinkable Karl ___ fonc mailing list fonc@vpri.org http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc

Re: [fonc] New Bret Victor demos

2013-05-29 Thread karl ramberg
Yes, I meant to link to the fish demo. Sorry about that. Karl On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 9:19 PM, Norman Nunley nnun...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe Karl meant to reference 'Stop Drawing Dead Fish'? http://vimeo.com/64895205 Norman On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Yoshiki Ohshima yoshiki.ohsh

Re: [fonc] Natural Language Wins

2013-04-06 Thread karl ramberg
! Karl On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Kirk Fraser overcomer@gmail.comwrote: Most likely your personal skills at natural language are insufficient to understand Revelation in the Bible, like mine were until I spent lots of time learning. Now I can predict the current Pope Francis

Re: [fonc] Behavior reuse through copy and paste between applications.

2013-04-02 Thread karl ramberg
I guess you have to define the behavior and what purpose it should have before one can say it makes sense to apply it in an other context. Karl On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 6:27 AM, Yoshiki Ohshima yoshiki.ohsh...@acm.orgwrote: On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 10:10 PM, John Carlson yottz...@gmail.com

Re: [fonc] Gezira Plugin for SqueakVM was Re: Final STEP progress report?

2012-11-21 Thread karl ramberg
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 1:29 AM, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de wrote: On 2012-11-19, at 20:26, karl ramberg karlramb...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 9:22 AM, Cyril Hansen cyril.han...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, As an engineer / hobbyist, I have been waiting for the final

Re: [fonc] How it is

2012-10-03 Thread karl ramberg
and learning system. And the system would need to be general enough to be used for a wide variety of applications. Geoffrey Hinton have shown some interesting results for image recognition: https://www.coursera.org/course/neuralnets Karl ___ fonc mailing

Re: [fonc] Everything You Know (about Parallel Programming) Is Wrong!: A Wild Screed about the Future

2012-03-27 Thread karl ramberg
Slides/pdf: http://www.dynamic-languages-symposium.org/dls-11/program/media/Ungar_2011_EverythingYouKnowAboutParallelProgrammingIsWrongAWildScreedAboutTheFuture_Dls.pdf Karl On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 7:03 PM, Craig Latta cr...@netjam.org wrote: Hi-- Was the talk recorded? thanks

Re: [fonc] Inspired 3D Worlds

2012-01-17 Thread karl ramberg
. Karl On Jan 16, 2012, at 8:45 AM, David Barbour dmbarb...@gmail.com wrote: Consider offloading some of your creativity burden onto your computer. The idea is: It's easier to recognize and refine something interesting than to create it. So turn it into a search, recognition

Re: [fonc] History of computing talks at SJSU

2011-12-20 Thread karl ramberg
(his shopping list) And he made that possible on a super computer of his age. I don't think that computer was idle most of the time during that demo. What will a use case of 40 years in the future look like ? I hope I don't book meetings in a Excel form then ;-) Karl

Re: [fonc] History of computing talks at SJSU

2011-12-16 Thread karl ramberg
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 2:09 AM, Jecel Assumpcao Jr. je...@merlintec.comwrote: Karl Ramberg wrote: One of Alans points in his talk is that students should be using bleeding edge hardware, not just regular laptops. I think he is right for some part but he also recollected the Joss

Re: [fonc] History of computing talks at SJSU

2011-12-14 Thread karl ramberg
the bleeding edge hardware. It can get a long way by using what you have till it's fullest. Karl On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 9:02 PM, Kim Rose kim.r...@vpri.org wrote: For those of you looking to hear more from Alan Kay -- you'll find a talk from him and several other big names in computer science here

[fonc] IBM eyes brain-like computing

2011-10-14 Thread karl ramberg
Interesting article : http://www.itnews.com.au/News/276700,ibm-eyes-brain-like-computing.aspx Not much details, but the what they envisions seems to be more of the character a autonomic system that can be quarried for answers, not programmed like today's computers. Karl

Re: [fonc] Extending object oriented programming in Smalltalk

2011-08-18 Thread karl ramberg
for the reading tip Karl On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 3:41 AM, Alan Kay alan.n...@yahoo.com wrote: Take a look at Landin's papers and especially ISWIM (The next 700 programming languages) You don't so much want to learn Lisp as to learn the idea of Lisp Cheers, Alan

Re: [fonc] Extending object oriented programming in Smalltalk

2011-08-18 Thread karl ramberg
Hi I have seen screenshots of Lisp machines. They seem awesome :-) I read somewhere they could have very very long boot time. Karl On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 10:05 PM, David Leibs david.le...@oracle.comwrote: I wish you could have seen Interlisp-D running on a Dorado. -David -David On Aug 17

Re: [fonc] Extending object oriented programming in Smalltalk

2011-08-18 Thread karl ramberg
Thanks for the tip Lots of stuff added to the reading list today :-) Karl On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 5:31 PM, David Leibs david.le...@oracle.com wrote: Your point about politics is so true. Check out a great classic paper by Mel Conway at: http://www.melconway.com/Home

Re: [fonc] Extending object oriented programming in Smalltalk

2011-08-17 Thread karl ramberg
to computing than text io Karl On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 8:00 PM, DeNigris Sean s...@clipperadams.comwrote: Alan, While we're on the subject, you finally got to me and I started learning LISP, but I'm finding an entire world, rather than a cohesive language or philosophy (Scheme - which

Re: [fonc] Last programming language

2011-07-18 Thread karl ramberg
He he Karl On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 6:11 AM, Alan Kay alan.n...@yahoo.com wrote: What the one-celled microbes said before the Cambrian ... -- *From:* karl ramberg karlramb...@gmail.com *To:* Fundamentals of New Computing fonc@vpri.org *Sent:* Sun, July 17

[fonc] Last programming language

2011-07-17 Thread karl ramberg
Hi Here is a interesting video about programming languages http://skillsmatter.com/podcast/agile-testing/bobs-last-language Karl ___ fonc mailing list fonc@vpri.org http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc

Re: [fonc] Last programming language

2011-07-17 Thread karl ramberg
to what it would be, based on history, like a white spot on the map ? Karl Karl ___ fonc mailing list fonc@vpri.org http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc

Re: [fonc] Last programming language

2011-07-17 Thread Karl Robillard
structures can be communicated more clearly using different languages. -Karl R. ___ fonc mailing list fonc@vpri.org http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc

Re: [fonc] Alternative Web programming models?

2011-07-11 Thread karl ramberg
combining them ? Or should they behave as website history, where I use the backbutton to trace may steps? Karl ___ fonc mailing list fonc@vpri.org http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc

Re: [fonc] Alternative Web programming models?

2011-07-11 Thread karl ramberg
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 10:57 PM, John Zabroski johnzabro...@gmail.comwrote: On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 4:43 PM, karl ramberg karlramb...@gmail.comwrote: On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 10:23 PM, John Zabroski johnzabro...@gmail.comwrote: Much interesting Thanks Karl On Mon, Jun 13, 2011

Re: [fonc] Logo and Silicon

2011-06-14 Thread karl ramberg
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 4:47 PM, Jecel Assumpcao Jr. je...@merlintec.comwrote: Karl, Here is one proposed to be buildt in Squeak http://www.computer.org/comp/proceedings/c5/2003/1975/00/19750120.pdf Thanks for the link! It looks nice. I am currently helping out with an undergraduate

Re: [fonc] Alternative Web programming models?

2011-06-13 Thread karl ramberg
http://www.tinlizzie.org/~awarth/worlds/ Karl Julian. On 14/06/2011, at 5:26 AM, Julian Leviston wrote: On 14/06/2011, at 4:07 AM, Josh Gargus wrote: On Jun 13, 2011, at 9:35 AM, Julian Leviston wrote: On 14/06/2011, at 1:17 AM, Alan Kay wrote: It would be great if everyone

Re: [fonc] Reading Maxwell's Equations

2010-03-02 Thread Karl Ramberg
and papers about it. http://tinlizzie.org/updates/exploratory/updates/ Karl ___ fonc mailing list fonc@vpri.org http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc

Re: [fonc] 64-bit? was: fonc on ubuntu.

2008-06-21 Thread Karl Robillard
../../boot/ -I../../st80 + LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$PWD/../../boot ./hw NOTE: Compilation can be long on slow hardware because many of the examples import 'st80' causing the compiler to scan the source of the -Karl ___ fonc

[fonc] Coding Standards

2008-06-20 Thread Karl Robillard
had both tabs and spaces. Oh, and is there a preferred way to submit patches (mailing list, direct email, wiki)? -Karl ___ fonc mailing list fonc@vpri.org http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc

Re: [fonc] Software Portablilty

2008-06-11 Thread Karl Robillard
utterly awful that nobody was interested, and by the time they finally provided a C compiler it was way too late. -Karl ___ fonc mailing list fonc@vpri.org http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc

[fonc] Software Portablilty

2008-06-09 Thread Karl Robillard
On Sunday 08 June 2008 03:30:29 am Ivan Krstić wrote: On Jun 8, 2008, at 12:47 AM, Karl Robillard wrote: I will write portable code, which does not assume any specific CPU or OS, so as to respect the users right to run my software on many different systems. CPU, maybe

Re: [fonc] wiki and communication

2008-06-05 Thread Karl Robillard
be made public so we can link to posts there? -Karl ___ fonc mailing list fonc@vpri.org http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc

[fonc] Building on x86_64 Fedora 8

2008-03-29 Thread Karl Robillard
After making the changes to object/boot/configure (below) I was able to build the first idc. Now the build fails with a primitive error handling failed idc error as shown here: make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/karl/osrc/languages/COLA-idst/object/boot' /bin/sh -ec '[ -d stage1 ] || mkdir