Re: [fonc] Compiling COLA on x86_64

2013-10-21 Thread Simon Forman
On 10/20/2013 at 9:38 AM, Ian Piumarta i...@vpri.org wrote: Simon, Sorry for the slightly late fixes. Please svn update your idst sources and then make clean in the top-level directory. On 32-bit Linux make sure you have the packages libreadline-dev and execstack installed. Then type make in

Re: [fonc] Compiling COLA on x86_64

2013-10-18 Thread Simon Forman
!) is just punishing themselves. Warm regards, ~Simon On Oct 12, 2013, at 13:49 , Simon Forman wrote: On 10/10/2013 at 6:22 PM, John Carlson yottz...@gmail.com wrote: Or just copy the i386 file to name it's expecting. On Oct 10, 2013 8:18 PM, John Carlson yottz...@gmail.com wrote

Re: [fonc] Compiling COLA on x86_64

2013-10-12 Thread Simon Forman
On 10/10/2013 at 6:22 PM, John Carlson yottz...@gmail.com wrote: Or just copy the i386 file to name it's expecting. On Oct 10, 2013 8:18 PM, John Carlson yottz...@gmail.com wrote: Symlink might help I tried a symlink but that didn't get any further. It asked me to please implement iflush()

[fonc] Compiling COLA on x86_64

2013-10-10 Thread Simon Forman
I checked out COLA from http://piumarta.com/svn2/idst/trunk and tried compiling but I encountered an error. cp -p CodeGenerator-x86_64.st CodeGenerator-local.st cp: cannot stat `CodeGenerator-x86_64.st': No such file or directory There are CodeGenerator-*.st files for arm, i386, and ppc.

Re: [fonc] Final STEP progress report abandoned?

2013-09-05 Thread Simon Forman
On 09/05/2013 at 4:05 AM, Eugen Leitl eu...@leitl.org wrote: On Wed, Sep 04, 2013 at 04:28:52PM -0700, Simon Forman wrote: There is a (the?) universal logical notation being elucidated right now that seems to me to be very promising for this sort of stuff. Is it intrinsically massively

Re: [fonc] Final STEP progress report abandoned?

2013-09-04 Thread Simon Forman
On 9/3/13, Casey Ransberger casey.obrie...@gmail.com wrote: ... On Sep 3, 2013, at 3:04 PM, David Barbour dmbarb...@gmail.com wrote: Even better if the languages are good for exploration by genetic programming - i.e. easily sliced, spliced, rearranged, mutated. I've only seen this done

Re: [fonc] 90% glue code [universal language]

2013-04-20 Thread Simon Forman
On 4/20/13, John Carlson yottz...@gmail.com wrote: How do these handle infinite sets? :D You have to handle infinity the same way a computer does: make up a special symbol and let it use different rules. You make up a name and describe the behaviour of the thing named by logical statements

Re: [fonc] 90% glue code [universal language]

2013-04-20 Thread Simon Forman
On 4/20/13, John Carlson yottz...@gmail.com wrote: Do you need one symbol for the number infinity and another for denoting that a set is inifinite? Or do you just reason about the size of the set? Is there a difference between a set that is countably infinite and one that isn't countable? I

Re: [fonc] 90% glue code

2013-04-19 Thread Simon Forman
This might be of interest. Over the last century a small group of people, working largely independently and in isolation, have discovered and refined an Universal Language. This is a logic-symbolic notation, not a spoken language (i.e. not like Esperanto), that captures and expresses the essence

Re: [fonc] 90% glue code

2013-04-19 Thread Simon Forman
On 4/19/13, Simon Forman forman.si...@gmail.com wrote: Shroup, http://www.lawsofform.org/ Ooops! That should be Shoup, not Shroup. The history of mankind for the last four centuries is rather like that of an imprisoned sleeper, stirring clumsily and uneasily while the prison that restrains

Re: [fonc] Binary Lambda Calculus

2013-03-31 Thread Simon Forman
This might be relevant (apologies if not, I'm somewhat unsophisticated and perhaps this is all old news, or not interesting.) :) I was investigating G. Spencer-Brown's Laws of Form[1] by implementing it in Python. You can represent the marks of LoF as datastructures in Python composed entirely

Re: [fonc] Binary Lambda Calculus

2013-03-25 Thread Simon Forman
On 3/25/13, John Carlson yottz...@gmail.com wrote: So is anyone looking at binary parser generators? It would seem like something like this would have been done ages ago. On Mar 25, 2013 12:07 PM, Andre van Delft andre.vande...@gmail.com wrote: Op 25 mrt. 2013, om 17:35 heeft John Tromp

Re: [fonc] Current topics

2013-01-03 Thread Simon Forman
On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 10:35 PM, BGB cr88...@gmail.com wrote: On 1/2/2013 10:31 PM, Simon Forman wrote: On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 7:53 AM, Alan Kay alan.n...@yahoo.com wrote: The most recent discussions get at a number of important issues whose pernicious snares need to be handled better

Re: [fonc] Current topics

2013-01-02 Thread Simon Forman
On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 7:53 AM, Alan Kay alan.n...@yahoo.com wrote: The most recent discussions get at a number of important issues whose pernicious snares need to be handled better. In an analogy to sending messages most of the time successfully through noisy channels -- where the noise also

Re: [fonc] Linus Chews Up Kernel Maintainer For Introducing Userspace Bug - Slashdot

2012-12-31 Thread Simon Forman
, a tradition corporation or other institution.) I see it as a win for open methods even if Torvalds might have a bit of egg on his face. ~Simon Forman -- http://twitter.com/SimonForman http://www.dendritenetwork.com/ The history of mankind for the last four centuries is rather like

[fonc] a simple IDE for teaching basic computer structure and programming

2012-12-22 Thread Simon Forman
Hello folks, I just wanted to mention something I am putting together to support a class or course I intend to give on the fundamentals of computer programming. I wanted to mention it here because it is both inspired by the work of VPRI and FoNC, and meant to act as a sort of feeder course into

Re: [fonc] A META-II for C that fits in a half a sheet of paper

2012-11-26 Thread Simon Forman
This is a fascinating tool. I wrote a python Meta II engine (attached.) It regenerates the asm source for the metacompiler but I haven't (yet) written a python-emitting metacompiler, just a VM for Meta II. (I'm actually targeting AVR microcontrollers but I'll almost certainly write a python

Re: [fonc] Physics and Types

2011-08-06 Thread Simon Forman
On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 2:48 AM, Alan Kay alan.n...@yahoo.com wrote: That was my thought when I first saw what Seymour Papert was doing with children and LOGO in the 60s. I was thinking about going back into Molecular Biology, but Seymour showed that computers could *really* be important as

Re: [fonc] Physics and Types

2011-08-06 Thread Simon Forman
On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 4:20 AM, Chris Warburton chriswa...@googlemail.com wrote: On Friday 05 August 2011 11:43:04 BGB wrote: On 8/4/2011 6:19 PM, Alan Kay wrote: Here's the link to the paper http://www.vpri.org/pdf/rn2005001_learning.pdf inference: it is not that basic math and physics

Re: [fonc] Physics and Types

2011-08-04 Thread Simon Forman
, Alan From: Martin McClure martin.mccl...@vmware.com To: Fundamentals of New Computing fonc@vpri.org Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2011 3:46 PM Subject: Re: [fonc] Physics and Types On 08/03/2011 08:10 PM, Simon Forman wrote: On the other hand, there's a story (I

Re: [fonc] Physics and Types

2011-08-03 Thread Simon Forman
On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 7:32 AM, Chris Warburton chriswa...@googlemail.com wrote: On Tuesday 02 August 2011 00:43:57 BGB wrote: On 8/1/2011 3:24 PM, Simon Forman wrote: On 7/27/11, Chris Warburtonchriswa...@googlemail.com  wrote: snip (maybe relevant but no really to comment). Another

[fonc] Re: python COLA, question about the transformation engine

2009-06-19 Thread Simon Forman
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 3:54 AM, Simon Formanforman.si...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I spent most of the last week reading the pdfs from the vpri.org site and I am bowled over.  It's amazing what you're accomplishing. Congratulations. I am trying to understand the COLA architecture by way of

[fonc] python COLA, question about the transformation engine

2009-06-13 Thread Simon Forman
Hello, I spent most of the last week reading the pdfs from the vpri.org site and I am bowled over. It's amazing what you're accomplishing. Congratulations. I am trying to understand the COLA architecture by way of building a model of it in the python language. I think I've got the basic object