What sickness science brings to everyday people! They cannot even believe in
mysterious things, such as the divine, without first thinking it has to show up
on a laboratory microscope.
The petri dish has to exist before the thing will be acknowledged as fitting
inside a petri dish.
We
I want a response from Alan Kay on this thread. Then I will leave you all
alone.
On Dec 29, 2012, at 3:16 PM, David Harris wrote:
What are you on about? How is this related to FONC?
David
On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 3:10 PM, John Pratt jpra...@gmail.com wrote:
What sickness
These are larger issues, rarely brought up anywhere except in
places where people don't counter the mainstream. How is it
that FONC needs to exist? Because people don't consider things
like this.
On Dec 29, 2012, at 3:27 PM, David Leibs wrote:
Are you sure you don't want a response from me?
John,
The FONC grant is done. Let it be. Please leave your email behavior at
the door. As to why science cannot believe in such things is because of
Godel's Incompleteness Theorems. Science doesn't have an axiom for it like
it does for a point (in math).
Find the most succinct axiom you can
Science cannot believe X because scientific theorem A1 says...
Here is what I know: the theorem of atoms was ascertained without
Godel. It was done in ancient Greece.
On Dec 29, 2012, at 4:03 PM, John Carlson wrote:
John,
The FONC grant is done. Let it be. Please leave your email
Sorry, I use it too much. What I was trying to say was that science
doesn't have an axiom for Falun Dafa, like science has for a point.
On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 6:03 PM, John Carlson yottz...@gmail.com wrote:
John,
The FONC grant is done. Let it be. Please leave your email behavior at
the
I think you've entirely missed what science and mathematics *are*.
Deep inquiry into any subject has to involve the divine as you call it here.
Go watch some Richard Feynmann videos if you think scientists such as Alan Kay
don't subscribe to deeply held beliefs of the mysterious.
You can see
sarcasm But don't you understand? Falun Dafa is the new answer-for-it-all!
/sarcasm
When will people simply address their fears? We *are* going to die.
Julian
On 30/12/2012, at 11:08 AM, John Carlson yottz...@gmail.com wrote:
Sorry, I use it too much. What I was trying to say was that
Ugly buildings. It's all yours. You can have it.
On Dec 29, 2012, at 4:14 PM, Julian Leviston wrote:
sarcasm But don't you understand? Falun Dafa is the new answer-for-it-all!
/sarcasm
When will people simply address their fears? We *are* going to die.
Julian
On 30/12/2012, at
John, check out Munchhausen's Trilemma
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%BCnchhausen_trilemma as to why belief
systems as are they are. Everyone has a belief system, including
scientists, engineers,and mathematicians. Nothing is firm, including Falun
Dafa. Enjoy the mystery of everything,
At best, people can get into nerd debates on Slashdot about such things.
Aside from that, I think about so-called belief systems and whatever phenomena
independent of the people who supposedly have all the answers, like
professors and their 4 textbooks, many of which are just codified knowledge.
Well, my idea of the universe is my own devising, but perhaps I was
influenced by Raelism at a young age without knowing it. I believe my
rejection of the axiom of a point is one of my key thoughts. It takes down
most of science rather handily. Yes, I did accept a lot of axioms when I
was
And you let Falun Dafta think for you? Have you say anything positive
about anything else?
On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 6:27 PM, John Pratt jpra...@gmail.com wrote:
I see. So you let other people think for you.
On Dec 29, 2012, at 4:23 PM, John Carlson wrote:
John, check out Munchhausen's
sorry folks, I let some messages slip through that were intended for John
P. My mistake
On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 7:36 PM, John Carlson yottz...@gmail.com wrote:
Well, my idea of the universe is my own devising, but perhaps I was
influenced by Raelism at a young age without knowing it. I
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