Re: [fossil-users] The future of markdown-in-fossil

2012-08-03 Thread Natacha Porté
Hello, on Monday 30 July 2012 at 18:53, Stephan Beal wrote: On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 10:41 AM, Natacha Porté nata...@instinctive.euwrote: What remains to do: + review my code to ensure it meets fossil level of quality, + format it using fossil code style if needed, + any other

[fossil-users] usability of in-project documentation

2012-08-03 Thread Michal Suchanek
hello, while the wiki has its entry in the fossil menu and is easy to find the in-project documentation is not so obvious. As a fossil user I have to read the manual to find the docs at all so I would know. The manual is even quite well explained and almost exhaustive. However, if I were to

Re: [fossil-users] The future of markdown-in-fossil

2012-08-03 Thread Michal Suchanek
On 3 August 2012 11:23, Remigiusz Modrzejewski l...@maxnet.org.pl wrote: On Jul 30, 2012, at 19:43 , Gautier DI FOLCO wrote: 2012/7/30 Bill Burdick bill.burd...@gmail.com I'd like to see it included, as well! I'd like it too, it will be easier for beginnes (like me!). +1 Why markdown

Re: [fossil-users] The future of markdown-in-fossil

2012-08-03 Thread Remigiusz Modrzejewski
On Aug 3, 2012, at 11:53 , Michal Suchanek wrote: On 3 August 2012 11:23, Remigiusz Modrzejewski l...@maxnet.org.pl wrote: +1 Why markdown and not one of the dozens of other wiki syntaxes? Because markdown is a very popular one, used by github, and we have on board the creator of a major

Re: [fossil-users] The future of markdown-in-fossil

2012-08-03 Thread Michal Suchanek
On 3 August 2012 12:07, Remigiusz Modrzejewski l...@maxnet.org.pl wrote: On Aug 3, 2012, at 11:53 , Michal Suchanek wrote: On 3 August 2012 11:23, Remigiusz Modrzejewski l...@maxnet.org.pl wrote: +1 Why markdown and not one of the dozens of other wiki syntaxes? Because markdown is a very

Re: [fossil-users] The future of markdown-in-fossil

2012-08-03 Thread Remigiusz Modrzejewski
On Aug 3, 2012, at 12:19 , Michal Suchanek wrote: Why markdown and not one of the dozens of other wiki syntaxes? Because markdown is a very popular one, used by github, and we have on board the creator of a major implementation (the one used by github, iirc). Github has a cute logo but I

Re: [fossil-users] The future of markdown-in-fossil

2012-08-03 Thread Michal Suchanek
On 3 August 2012 12:26, Remigiusz Modrzejewski l...@maxnet.org.pl wrote: Note there are JavaScript hacks for interpreting random wiki syntax so you can have markdown interpreted without any direct support in fossil. Note there are good wiki engines out there, so no need for one in Fossil

Re: [fossil-users] The future of markdown-in-fossil

2012-08-03 Thread Natacha Porté
Hello, On Aug 3, 2012, at 11:53 , Michal Suchanek wrote: Why markdown and not one of the dozens of other wiki syntaxes? If I understand correctly this question wasn't addressed to me (as a developer of the markdown-in-fossil code) but I'll try to contribute as objectively as I can. As a

Re: [fossil-users] The future of markdown-in-fossil

2012-08-03 Thread Michal Suchanek
On 3 August 2012 13:04, Natacha Porté nata...@instinctive.eu wrote: Hello, On Aug 3, 2012, at 11:53 , Michal Suchanek wrote: Why markdown and not one of the dozens of other wiki syntaxes? If I understand correctly this question wasn't addressed to me (as a developer of the

Re: [fossil-users] The future of markdown-in-fossil

2012-08-03 Thread Natacha Porté
Hello, on Friday 03 August 2012 at 13:41, Michal Suchanek wrote: On 3 August 2012 13:04, Natacha Porté nata...@instinctive.eu wrote: As a user, the killer feature I see for markdown is that the implementation exists (assuming my code is considered worthy, which is quite a strong

Re: [fossil-users] The future of markdown-in-fossil

2012-08-03 Thread Konstantin Khomoutov
On Fri, 3 Aug 2012 12:19:01 +0200 Michal Suchanek hramr...@gmail.com wrote: Why markdown and not one of the dozens of other wiki syntaxes? Because markdown is a very popular one, used by github, and we have on board the creator of a major implementation (the one used by github, iirc).

Re: [fossil-users] usability of in-project documentation

2012-08-03 Thread Stephan Beal
On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 11:48 AM, Michal Suchanek hramr...@gmail.com wrote: huge snip I also notice that while the CSS is customizable the HTML templates are not. While this is not much of a problem for many projects in some cases you would want to reorganize the page layout and/or add

Re: [fossil-users] The future of markdown-in-fossil

2012-08-03 Thread Stephan Beal
On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 10:39 AM, Natacha Porté nata...@instinctive.euwrote: No problem at all, I'm genuinely that patient. You could tell me nobody would have time to look at it in 2012, and that would be fine with me and I wouldn't send any other reminder before end of Januray 2013. No, no,

Re: [fossil-users] The future of markdown-in-fossil

2012-08-03 Thread Michal Suchanek
On 3 August 2012 14:02, Natacha Porté nata...@instinctive.eu wrote: Hello, on Friday 03 August 2012 at 13:41, Michal Suchanek wrote: I have strong objections about all such makups, none is perfect, all have some annoyances, and they are all mutually incompatible. Changing from one to

Re: [fossil-users] The future of markdown-in-fossil

2012-08-03 Thread Stephan Beal
On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 12:19 PM, Michal Suchanek ...not to decide that but I have to agree. Once you let in markdown people used to some other wiki syntax would argue they have needlessly hard time and there would be no end to the stream of requests to include yet another. Hi Michal, For

Re: [fossil-users] The future of markdown-in-fossil

2012-08-03 Thread Stephan Beal
On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 2:56 PM, Michal Suchanek hramr...@gmail.com wrote: And given somebody wrote a bbcode parser implementation, moin moin parser implementation, and a half dozen others which will be allowed in the fossil proper? Or is parser for any random format to be added? And now i

Re: [fossil-users] The future of markdown-in-fossil

2012-08-03 Thread Michal Suchanek
On 3 August 2012 14:40, Konstantin Khomoutov flatw...@users.sourceforge.net wrote: On Fri, 3 Aug 2012 12:19:01 +0200 Michal Suchanek hramr...@gmail.com wrote: Why markdown and not one of the dozens of other wiki syntaxes? Because markdown is a very popular one, used by github, and we have

Re: [fossil-users] The future of markdown-in-fossil

2012-08-03 Thread Michal Suchanek
On 3 August 2012 15:14, Remigiusz Modrzejewski l...@maxnet.org.pl wrote: On Aug 3, 2012, at 14:57 , Stephan Beal wrote: That said: in several of my fossil wikis i store Google Code format in the wiki and render it client-side. My only point there is that it _is_ currently possible to

Re: [fossil-users] The future of markdown-in-fossil

2012-08-03 Thread Konstantin Khomoutov
On Fri, 3 Aug 2012 15:06:45 +0200 Michal Suchanek hramr...@gmail.com wrote: [...] Stackoverflow and all the sites under its umbrella, and all the sites using this engine, use (modified) markdown syntax [1], [2]. So again a somewhat slightly incompatible variation. Correct, but I hardly

Re: [fossil-users] The future of markdown-in-fossil

2012-08-03 Thread Konstantin Khomoutov
On Fri, 3 Aug 2012 14:02:38 +0200 Natacha Porté nata...@instinctive.eu wrote: [...] As I have said elsewhere, I'm not clever enough to imagine a solution to introduce markdown into fossil's internal wiki. So I don't propose it. I propose the extra embedded doc rendering, and the tools to

Re: [fossil-users] The future of markdown-in-fossil

2012-08-03 Thread Rene
On 2012-08-03 11:53, Michal Suchanek wrote: On 3 August 2012 11:23, Remigiusz Modrzejewski l...@maxnet.org.pl wrote: On Jul 30, 2012, at 19:43 , Gautier DI FOLCO wrote: 2012/7/30 Bill Burdick bill.burd...@gmail.com I'd like to see it included, as well! I'd like it too, it will be easier

Re: [fossil-users] The future of markdown-in-fossil

2012-08-03 Thread Stephan Beal
On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 3:31 PM, Konstantin Khomoutov flatw...@users.sourceforge.net wrote: I do understand the rationale for this approach; if I were the author of Fossil (I'm incapable for this, but let's pretend I am, for the moment) I'd probably pick the same approach during an early phase

Re: [fossil-users] usability of in-project documentation

2012-08-03 Thread Michal Suchanek
On 3 August 2012 14:45, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 11:48 AM, Michal Suchanek I am not opposed to writing patches, and all these issues are quite trivial but I am also aware that some patches are rotting in the fossil tickets for years so I guess patches

Re: [fossil-users] The future of markdown-in-fossil

2012-08-03 Thread Stephan Beal
On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Konstantin Khomoutov flatw...@users.sourceforge.net wrote: Supposedly, Fossil's wiki page editor could provide the same pick list the first time a page is created and then persist the chosen markup syntax with the page entry itself in an appropriate table.

Re: [fossil-users] The future of markdown-in-fossil

2012-08-03 Thread Stephan Beal
On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote: These pages show 3 page-specified renderers in action (it uses a name-extension mapper): That's a lie - each page has a client-specified mime-type string. Click on the editor button on these pages to see that.

Re: [fossil-users] templates (WAS: Re: The future of markdown-in-fossil(

2012-08-03 Thread Michal Suchanek
On 3 August 2012 15:39, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Michal Suchanek hramr...@gmail.com wrote: When user HTML templates are implemented it will be possible to store in the HTML template, presumably as part of configuration that can be replicated

[fossil-users] MIME types in Fossil's document server

2012-08-03 Thread Michael Richter
I'm having a weird problem serving up files in my /doc/tip/*. Some of the files I access through that tree are source files. If the source files are foo.m (Mercury source), fossil serves them up as MIME type text/html and it gets displayed nicely in my browser (Firefox 14). If, however, the

Re: [fossil-users] templates (WAS: Re: The future of markdown-in-fossil(

2012-08-03 Thread Stephan Beal
On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Michal Suchanek hramr...@gmail.com wrote: And how do you prevent malicious code import through synchronization? The same way Windows does, of course: This app comes from god-only-knows where. Do you want to run it? ;) i have absolutely no idea, to be honest.

Re: [fossil-users] MIME types in Fossil's document server

2012-08-03 Thread Michal Suchanek
On 3 August 2012 15:54, Michael Richter ttmrich...@gmail.com wrote: I'm having a weird problem serving up files in my /doc/tip/*. Some of the files I access through that tree are source files. If the source files are foo.m (Mercury source), fossil serves them up as MIME type text/html and it

Re: [fossil-users] MIME types in Fossil's document server

2012-08-03 Thread Stephan Beal
On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 4:09 PM, Michal Suchanek hramr...@gmail.com wrote: Because it does not know about .sno files. Even reporting .m as text/html is bogus, obviously. The built-in table shows it should be assigned text/plain, however. At one point we tossed around the idea of adding a

Re: [fossil-users] The future of markdown-in-fossil

2012-08-03 Thread Konstantin Khomoutov
On Fri, 3 Aug 2012 15:42:05 +0200 Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote: I do understand the rationale for this approach; if I were the author of Fossil (I'm incapable for this, but let's pretend I am, for the moment) I'd probably pick the same approach during an early phase of

Re: [fossil-users] templates (WAS: Re: The future of markdown-in-fossil(

2012-08-03 Thread Michal Suchanek
On 3 August 2012 16:03, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Michal Suchanek hramr...@gmail.com wrote: And how do you prevent malicious code import through synchronization? The same way Windows does, of course: This app comes from god-only-knows where.

Re: [fossil-users] templates (WAS: Re: The future of markdown-in-fossil(

2012-08-03 Thread Stephan Beal
On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 4:30 PM, Michal Suchanek hramr...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think that doing this is desirable. fossil status should be fossil status. And i agree entirely, i just posted the idea as a possible extension of the custom commands (since this is an evolutionary process, and

Re: [fossil-users] templates (WAS: Re: The future of markdown-in-fossil(

2012-08-03 Thread Michal Suchanek
On 3 August 2012 16:43, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 4:30 PM, Michal Suchanek hramr...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think that doing this is desirable. fossil status should be fossil status. And i agree entirely, i just posted the idea as a possible extension

Re: [fossil-users] usability of in-project documentation

2012-08-03 Thread Rene
On 2012-08-03 11:48, Michal Suchanek wrote: hello, while the wiki has its entry in the fossil menu and is easy to find the in-project documentation is not so obvious. As a fossil user I have to read the manual to find the docs at all so I would know. The manual is even quite well explained and

Re: [fossil-users] usability of in-project documentation

2012-08-03 Thread Stephan Beal
On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 6:06 PM, Rene renew...@xs4all.nl wrote: I'm not sure I follow you. again fossil has evolved this way. You have a wonderful opportunity to take fossil system and build ...you can set the the first page to anything you want. including index.html He was referring to

[fossil-users] Making a private branch public?

2012-08-03 Thread Trevor Davel (Twylite)
Hi, I have a private branch in my Tcl repository, and I wantto turn it into a public branch that I can push to other repos (without pushing all my private branches). I've tried cancelling the 'private' tag (fossil tag cancel --raw) on the first checkin of the branch, and on the latest, and

Re: [fossil-users] The future of markdown-in-fossil

2012-08-03 Thread Richie Adler
Michal Suchanek escribió: Note there are JavaScript hacks for interpreting random wiki syntax so you can have markdown interpreted without any direct support in fossil. Note there are good wiki engines out there, so no need for one in Fossil too. But once we set the scope to include

Re: [fossil-users] The future of markdown-in-fossil

2012-08-03 Thread Richie Adler
Remigiusz Modrzejewski decía, en el mensaje Re: [fossil-users] The future of markdown-in-fossil del Viernes, 03 de Agosto de 2012 07:26:27: I've read the we'll have requests for all the markups in the world argument many times. I can't remember anyone actually coming and asking for *anything*

Re: [fossil-users] The future of markdown-in-fossil

2012-08-03 Thread Stephan Beal
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 10:41 AM, Natacha Porté nata...@instinctive.euwrote: Currently the code is in a new branch off a clone of the official fossil repository, available at http://fossil.instinctive.eu/fossil-scm/timeline?r=markdown Can you please update your fossil binary so that:

Re: [fossil-users] The future of markdown-in-fossil

2012-08-03 Thread Natacha Porté
Hello, on Friday 03 August 2012 at 19:11, Stephan Beal wrote: On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 10:41 AM, Natacha Porté nata...@instinctive.euwrote: Currently the code is in a new branch off a clone of the official fossil repository, available at

Re: [fossil-users] usability of in-project documentation

2012-08-03 Thread Rene
On 2012-08-03 18:15, Stephan Beal wrote: On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 6:06 PM, Rene renew...@xs4all.nl [1] wrote: I'm not sure I follow you. again fossil has evolved this way. You have a wonderful opportunity to take fossil system and build ...you can set the the first page to anything you want.