Re: [fossil-users] Mailing list shutting down...

2018-06-13 Thread Warren Young
On Jun 13, 2018, at 3:12 PM, Richard Hipp wrote: > > I have found is that forum > and ticket traffic far exceeds the amount of source code. I just exported my local 6-year archive of the SQLite mailing list traffic to an mbox file, then gzipped it, yielding a 31 MB file. The current

Re: [fossil-users] Mailing list shutting down...

2018-06-13 Thread Warren Young
On Jun 13, 2018, at 2:04 PM, Steve Schow wrote: > > Yea I agree, this is nice stuff to have, but in my view is not compelling for > fossil which sets itself apart by being lightweight and simple. Yes, and I would expect this Fossil Forum Feature to be lightweight and simple, in the same way

Re: [fossil-users] Mailing list shutting down...

2018-06-13 Thread Stéphane Aulery
Le 13/06/2018 à 15:41, Svyatoslav Mishyn a écrit : (Wed, 13 Jun 09:10) Richard Hipp: Other issues with GNU MailMan: ... (3) GNU MailMan is a pile of Python, spread out across many directories in magical places all over the filesystem. It is sparsely documented (that I have been able to

Re: [fossil-users] Mailing list shutting down...

2018-06-13 Thread Stéphane Aulery
Le 13/06/2018 à 21:57, Florian Weimer a écrit : * Codebykevin: Does Mailman support old school subscription over email? It does. It's possible to run it without any web frontend at all, and it's still useful. Of course, there's no browsable web archive, but an external service can handle

Re: [fossil-users] Mailing list shutting down...

2018-06-13 Thread Scott Doctor
Just my 2 cents. I do not think including a forum module in fossil is a good idea. Forum software is an entire project by itself. Over the years I tried various open source forum software for my various project websites. Simple Machines Forum (SMF) is the go-to one that I use. It has various

Re: [fossil-users] Mailing list shutting down...

2018-06-13 Thread Richard Hipp
On 6/13/18, Warren Young wrote: >> Indeed, there are many advantages to just tacking a forum capability >> onto Fossil. > > Let’s list them: > > 2. Everyone who clones a Fossil project repository would henceforth also get > a clone of the project’s message traffic. This is not necessarily an

Re: [fossil-users] [sqlite] Mailing list shutting down...

2018-06-13 Thread Richard Hipp
On 6/13/18, Svyatoslav Mishyn wrote: > > Another alternative would be nimforum: > https://github.com/nim-lang/nimforum > It does not appear to have email notification. Unless I overlooked something. -- D. Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org ___ fossil-users

Re: [fossil-users] Mailing list shutting down...

2018-06-13 Thread Steve Schow
Yea I agree, this is nice stuff to have, but in my view is not compelling for fossil which sets itself apart by being lightweight and simple. There are numerous collaborative development platforms out there already. I’ve messed around with a few of them and they are definitely cool and if I

Re: [fossil-users] Mailing list shutting down...

2018-06-13 Thread Florian Weimer
* Codebykevin: > Does Mailman support old school subscription over email? It does. It's possible to run it without any web frontend at all, and it's still useful. Of course, there's no browsable web archive, but an external service can handle that.

Re: [fossil-users] Mailing list shutting down...

2018-06-13 Thread Florian Weimer
* Richard Hipp: > I have not. On the other hand, that patch has apparently been > available for 4 years and has not yet be folded into the official GNU > MailMan. Is Mailman still supported? It is, but it's a GNU project, so they are reluctant to download proprietary Javascript for execution

Re: [fossil-users] [sqlite] Mailing list shutting down...

2018-06-13 Thread Svyatoslav Mishyn
(Wed, 13 Jun 14:59) Richard Hipp: > Cross-posted to the fossil-users mailing list since www.fossil-scm.org > and www.sqlite.org are the same machine and both mailing lists are > impacted by the current problem. > > On 6/13/18, Luiz Américo wrote: > > How about using https://www.discourse.org/ ?

Re: [fossil-users] Mailing list shutting down...

2018-06-13 Thread Warren Young
On Jun 13, 2018, at 12:55 PM, Steve Schow wrote: > > There are other deep solutions such as redmine and others which provide deep > collaboration capabilities…which is where that kind of feature would lead to. That makes me like the idea even more. :) It would be nice, for instance, to be

Re: [fossil-users] Mailing list shutting down...

2018-06-13 Thread Codebykevin
Does Mailman support old school subscription over email? > On Jun 13, 2018, at 3:02 PM, Marcelo wrote: > >> El mié., 13 jun. 2018 a las 15:39, Andy Bradford >> () escribió: > >> Thus said Richard Hipp on Wed, 13 Jun 2018 07:28:02 -0400: >> >> > The most recent problem is that robots are

Re: [fossil-users] Mailing list shutting down...

2018-06-13 Thread Marcelo
El mié., 13 jun. 2018 a las 15:39, Andy Bradford () escribió: > Thus said Richard Hipp on Wed, 13 Jun 2018 07:28:02 -0400: > > > The most recent problem is that robots are visiting the subscription > > page and entering innocent user's email addresses and names. > > What about simply disabling

Re: [fossil-users] Mailing list shutting down...

2018-06-13 Thread Steve Schow
Here are some forum solutions that have been around a long time and a lot of people using them. both work with sqlite: https://www.phpbb.com https://mybb.com more info about many more here:

Re: [fossil-users] Mailing list shutting down...

2018-06-13 Thread Steve Schow
As a certified forum junkie…I’ll add my two cents… While it would be cool to have a forum type of capability built into fossil, I do think that would end up being a very deep rabbit hole and one of the things i love about fossil is the simplicity of it. There are other deep solutions such as

Re: [fossil-users] Mailing list shutting down...

2018-06-13 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Richard Hipp on Wed, 13 Jun 2018 07:28:02 -0400: > The most recent problem is that robots are visiting the subscription > page and entering innocent user's email addresses and names. What about simply disabling web-based subscriptions and require people to subscribe via email?

Re: [fossil-users] Mailing list shutting down...

2018-06-13 Thread jungle Boogie
On 13 June 2018 at 08:11, Warren Young wrote: > On Jun 13, 2018, at 8:05 AM, Richard Hipp wrote: >> >> My current tthinking is to use a hybrid approach where subscribers get >> emails just like ordinary mailing lists, but posting and replying is >> via web-form only. > > If you do this atop

Re: [fossil-users] "remember this password (Y/n)?" and `isatty()`

2018-06-13 Thread Warren Young
On Jun 8, 2018, at 5:08 PM, Eduard wrote: > > The '--interactive' switch is only for the sqlite shell I think. It is not > accepted for the remote-url command. So reflect the same feature into main() within src/main.c. Then test the global variable stdin_is_interactive wherever isatty(stdin)

Re: [fossil-users] Export to SVN?

2018-06-13 Thread Stéphane Aulery
Hello, Le 13/06/2018 à 16:16, Thomas Burdick a écrit : I’m interested in experimenting with Fossil as a replacement for svn for a large-ish project I work on. I saw that import can import a dumped svn repository, but there’s no export option for svn. Would adding one be a lot of work?

Re: [fossil-users] Mailing list shutting down...

2018-06-13 Thread Warren Young
On Jun 13, 2018, at 10:30 AM, JH wrote: > > Recently, I started working on that using my smtp.h and smtp.c: I haven’t looked into your implementation, but I suspect you’re missing a whole lot: http://sqlite.1065341.n5.nabble.com/Many-ML-emails-going-to-GMail-s-SPAM-td98685i20.html#a98722

Re: [fossil-users] Mailing list shutting down...

2018-06-13 Thread Ron Aaron
Excellent! You might take a look as well at the very lightweight "tlse" project (I use it in 8th):  https://github.com/eduardsui/tlse -- it is a small replacement for OpenSSL On 13/06/2018 19:30, JH wrote: On 06/13/2018 08:11 AM, Warren

Re: [fossil-users] Mailing list shutting down...

2018-06-13 Thread JH
On 06/13/2018 08:11 AM, Warren Young wrote: On Jun 13, 2018, at 8:05 AM, Richard Hipp wrote: My current tthinking is to use a hybrid approach where subscribers get emails just like ordinary mailing lists, but posting and replying is via web-form only. If you do this atop Fossil, then you end

Re: [fossil-users] Mailing list shutting down...

2018-06-13 Thread Warren Young
On Jun 13, 2018, at 9:18 AM, Richard Hipp wrote: > > On 6/13/18, Warren Young wrote: >> If you do this atop Fossil, then you end up inches away from being able to >> provide an oft-wanted feature: email notifications on checkins, wiki article >> changes, and other Fossil events. > > Indeed,

Re: [fossil-users] Bug in /finfo not showing Deleted anymore.

2018-06-13 Thread Stephan Beal
On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 6:17 PM, Stephan Beal wrote: > On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 5:12 PM, Richard Hipp wrote: > >> On 6/13/18, Svyatoslav Mishyn wrote: >> > (Wed, 13 Jun 08:49) Andy Bradford: >> >> I haven't had the time to investigate further, but it seems that >> with >> >> this commit,

Re: [fossil-users] Bug in /finfo not showing Deleted anymore.

2018-06-13 Thread Stephan Beal
On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 5:12 PM, Richard Hipp wrote: > On 6/13/18, Svyatoslav Mishyn wrote: > > (Wed, 13 Jun 08:49) Andy Bradford: > >> I haven't had the time to investigate further, but it seems that with > >> this commit, the /finfo timeline no longer shows when a file gets > >>

Re: [fossil-users] Mailing list shutting down...

2018-06-13 Thread Richard Hipp
On 6/13/18, Warren Young wrote: > If you do this atop Fossil, then you end up inches away from being able to > provide an oft-wanted feature: email notifications on checkins, wiki article > changes, and other Fossil events. Indeed, there are many advantages to just tacking a forum capability

Re: [fossil-users] Bug in /finfo not showing Deleted anymore.

2018-06-13 Thread Richard Hipp
On 6/13/18, Svyatoslav Mishyn wrote: > (Wed, 13 Jun 08:49) Andy Bradford: >> I haven't had the time to investigate further, but it seems that with >> this commit, the /finfo timeline no longer shows when a file gets >> Deleted: >> >> http://www.fossil-scm.org/index.html/info/4c268999d5

Re: [fossil-users] Mailing list shutting down...

2018-06-13 Thread Warren Young
On Jun 13, 2018, at 8:05 AM, Richard Hipp wrote: > > My current tthinking is to use a hybrid approach where subscribers get > emails just like ordinary mailing lists, but posting and replying is > via web-form only. If you do this atop Fossil, then you end up inches away from being able to

Re: [fossil-users] Bug in /finfo not showing Deleted anymore.

2018-06-13 Thread Svyatoslav Mishyn
(Wed, 13 Jun 08:49) Andy Bradford: > I haven't had the time to investigate further, but it seems that with > this commit, the /finfo timeline no longer shows when a file gets > Deleted: > > http://www.fossil-scm.org/index.html/info/4c268999d5 I've reported it before:

[fossil-users] Bug in /finfo not showing Deleted anymore.

2018-06-13 Thread Andy Bradford
Hello, I haven't had the time to investigate further, but it seems that with this commit, the /finfo timeline no longer shows when a file gets Deleted: http://www.fossil-scm.org/index.html/info/4c268999d5 Thanks, Andy -- TAI64 timestamp: 40005b212f3a

[fossil-users] Export to SVN?

2018-06-13 Thread Thomas Burdick
Hello, I’m interested in experimenting with Fossil as a replacement for svn for a large-ish project I work on. I saw that import can import a dumped svn repository, but there’s no export option for svn. Would adding one be a lot of work? (Seems I have interesting timing with my subscription

Re: [fossil-users] Mailing list shutting down...

2018-06-13 Thread Svyatoslav Mishyn
(Wed, 13 Jun 10:05) Richard Hipp: > I would like to provide users the option to send messages formatted > using Markdown. Are there Markdown libraries available in TCL that I > can use, that you know of? Written in pure Tcl? Or is it OK to use Tcl bindings to existing C Markdown libraries?

Re: [fossil-users] Mailing list shutting down...

2018-06-13 Thread Thomas Burdick
Le 13/06/2018 16:05, « fossil-users au nom de Richard Hipp » a écrit : I would like to provide users the option to send messages formatted using Markdown. Are there Markdown libraries available in TCL that I can use, that you know of? There is, and it's MIT licensed, too.

Re: [fossil-users] Mailing list shutting down...

2018-06-13 Thread Richard Hipp
On 6/13/18, Peter Vonča wrote: > If you're going to write your own, are you going to use wapp? Sounds like a > good use case to me. Maybe. My current tthinking is to use a hybrid approach where subscribers get emails just like ordinary mailing lists, but posting and replying is via web-form

Re: [fossil-users] Mailing list shutting down...

2018-06-13 Thread Richard Hipp
On 6/13/18, Svyatoslav Mishyn wrote: > > Have you considered/tried mlmmj - http://mlmmj.org/ ? > > At least it's written in C. A am not familiar with mlmmj. But a quick glance at the README shows that it seems to be using a pile-of-files style database. In order to create a new mailing list,

Re: [fossil-users] Mailing list shutting down...

2018-06-13 Thread Joerg Sonnenberger
On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 09:10:48AM -0400, Richard Hipp wrote: > Other issues with GNU MailMan: > > (1) Only works with Apache. Or, at least, I have only been able to > get it to work with apache. That means I have to run a separate > apache server just to operation MailMan, whereas the rest of

Re: [fossil-users] Mailing list shutting down...

2018-06-13 Thread Svyatoslav Mishyn
Hello, (Wed, 13 Jun 09:10) Richard Hipp: > Other issues with GNU MailMan: > ... > (3) GNU MailMan is a pile of Python, spread out across many > directories in magical places all over the filesystem. It is sparsely > documented (that I have been able to find) and difficult to work on. Have you

Re: [fossil-users] Mailing list shutting down...

2018-06-13 Thread Peter Vonča
If you're going to write your own, are you going to use wapp? Sounds like a good use case to me. You could use some open source forum software, plenty around and some of them even support sqlite as a backend, on the other hand it's all written in PHP ... There's also Slack and Discord if you like

Re: [fossil-users] Mailing list shutting down...

2018-06-13 Thread Richard Hipp
On 6/13/18, Joerg Sonnenberger wrote: > > Does the patch from > https://www.dragonsreach.it/2014/05/03/adding-recaptcha-support-to-mailman/ > work? > I have not. On the other hand, that patch has apparently been available for 4 years and has not yet be folded into the official GNU MailMan. Is

Re: [fossil-users] Mailing list shutting down...

2018-06-13 Thread Joerg Sonnenberger
On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 07:28:02AM -0400, Richard Hipp wrote: > Unfortunately, I'm going to need to shut down this mailing list due to > robot harassment. I am working to come up with a fix or an > alternative now. Your suggestions are welcomed. Does the patch from

Re: [fossil-users] Mailing list shutting down...

2018-06-13 Thread Martin Gagnon
Just brainstorming here: May be a kind of "mailing list" and/or "forum" feature could be added to Fossil itself ? Fossil would become even more an alternative to github+git. Of course this would be a long-term work. This is just a random thought, it might be a bad idea, I’m not sure what to

Re: [fossil-users] Mailing list shutting down...

2018-06-13 Thread Sean Woods
> Your suggestions are welcomed. Call me crazy, but what about a simple discussion board system built into Fossil itself? That way all the existing Fossil security code could be utilized. It could be distributed and you could push/pull conversation threads as artifacts. It could send out

[fossil-users] Mailing list shutting down...

2018-06-13 Thread Richard Hipp
Unfortunately, I'm going to need to shut down this mailing list due to robot harassment. I am working to come up with a fix or an alternative now. Your suggestions are welcomed. This mailing list has operated for many years using GNU MailMan. Unfortunately, that software is not able to cope

[fossil-users] Fossil ignoring directories starting with _

2018-06-13 Thread Riza Dindir
Hi All, I am using fossil. Wanted to create a directory that starts with _. But when i use extras, it does not list the directory and the files in it. And addremove does not add the directory and its contents to the repository. How can i solve this problem? Here is my ignore-glob *dist* *DIST*