Re: [fossil-users] `fossil info' feature request (a.k.a. wish)

2013-01-13 Thread Eric
the commands have the same names. Eric -- ms fnd in a lbry ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users

Re: [fossil-users] Unintentional fork/race condition

2013-01-13 Thread Eric
if someone else does a commit based on the one you are reversing? The only way to deal with those is to stop fossil being distributed! Anyway the issue is not that forks can happen (which is inevitable), but that users should know they have happened and be able to deal with them. Eric -- ms fnd

Re: [fossil-users] `fossil info' feature request (a.k.a. wish)

2013-01-13 Thread Eric
that _is_ designed for that :) Do not assume your workflow or setup for everybody else. But you can still say something if they are using a claw-hammer to undo a nut. Eric -- ms fnd in a lbry ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org

Re: [fossil-users] Unintentional fork/race condition

2013-01-13 Thread Eric
practices (workflow if you like), and if making those choices ends up looking high-handed then by all means suggest alternative working practices, and even changes to fossil to help with them, but not changes which contradict the basic principles of the software. Eric -- ms fnd in a lbry

Re: [fossil-users] Unintentional fork/race condition

2013-01-13 Thread Eric Junkermann
that a rollback is not possible, that is what the rest of my message was about. Your extra detail (not quoted) does not change this. eric -- ms fnd in a lbry ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil vs. Git/Mercurial/etc.?

2012-12-30 Thread Eric
in a round-about or tedious way, you need to be able to express it in terms of development needs, not just as I want 'somevcs mangle'. Eric -- ms fnd in a lbry ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil vs. Git/Mercurial/etc.?

2012-12-29 Thread Eric
in repositories that people seem to want to hide is the result of committing far too frequently, usually in the mistaken belief that their VCS is some sort of backup system. Eric -- ms fnd in a lbry ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org

Re: [fossil-users] why does `fossil rm' not do the real thing?

2012-12-15 Thread Eric
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 01:52:11 +0100, Jan Danielsson jan.m.daniels...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/15/12 01:06, Eric wrote: [---] 4) I am not criticizing people, merely what they say. I see evidence that they don't get where I'm coming from because they have only an incomplete idea of what

Re: [fossil-users] why does `fossil rm' not do the real thing?

2012-12-15 Thread Eric
did say Well, I had to pick one message to answer. Instead of thinking this bit isn't for me you feel insulted and start being rude. Or rather, continue being rude. I do not understand this behaviour. Eric -- ms fnd in a lbry ___ fossil-users mailing

Re: [fossil-users] why does `fossil rm' not do the real thing?

2012-12-14 Thread Eric
in those few words than there could ever have been in anything I said, and nothing I said was directed at you explicitly anyway. . . . and you're an ass. Direct gratuitous insult. Well done. Eric -- ms fnd in a lbry ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil

Re: [fossil-users] why does `fossil rm' not do the real thing?

2012-12-13 Thread Eric
and the value of nothing. I think this thread has served to highlight the number of people here who want Fossil to be something other that what it set out to be, and don't actually know what SCM means. It doesn't surprise me that they have caused some over-the-top reactions. Eric -- ms fnd in a lbry

Re: [fossil-users] asciidoc-fossil-backend

2012-03-22 Thread Eric
be nicely-formatted embedded documentation. Even though I am normally against checking in built files. I think this is about embedded documentation more than about wiki pages, i.e. the latter are not documentation, just information exchange among developers. Eric -- ms fnd in a lbry

Re: [fossil-users] asciidoc-fossil-backend

2012-03-22 Thread Eric
in nowiki. Eric -- ms fnd in a lbry ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users

Re: [fossil-users] how to maintain a set of patches?

2012-02-25 Thread Eric
into another version, and is not a necessary component of an SCM system. Eric -- ms fnd in a lbry ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users

Re: [fossil-users] make fossil up 'quiter'

2012-02-09 Thread Eric
is on it does a pull first, but that's a separate operation, and it os concerned only with artifacts in the repository and knows nothing about branches. I wish people would stop expecting fossil to behave like git, if it did you might as well use git. Eric -- ms fnd in a lbry

Re: [fossil-users] make fossil up 'quiter'

2012-02-09 Thread Eric
On Thu, 9 Feb 2012 17:02:19 +0400, Konstantin Khomoutov flatw...@users.sourceforge.net wrote: On Thu, 9 Feb 2012 08:19:36 - Eric e...@deptj.eu wrote: snip fossil update is concerned only with the branch you have in your checkout directory. If autosync is on it does a pull first

Re: [fossil-users] Behavior of rm, mv, and changes/extra

2011-12-21 Thread Eric
(i.e. a lie) before letting it go to remote repositories. Another issue is that an SCM system is _not_ a backup tool, but many people seem to think that it is. And finally (for now :) ), dotfiles are special on *ix, so they should be treated specially. Eric P.S. Not picking on you, Dmitry, just

Re: [fossil-users] Behavior of rm, mv, and changes/extra

2011-12-21 Thread Eric
repository on the same disk as your working directory? And backup is for all your files, SCM is for important files that you need to keep the history of. Eric -- ms fnd in a lbry ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http

Re: [fossil-users] Behavior of rm, mv, and changes/extra

2011-12-21 Thread Eric
the point entirely. Eric -- ms fnd in a lbry ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users

Re: [fossil-users] http://www.fossil-scm.org/index.html/timeline

2011-11-11 Thread Eric
On Fri, November 11, 2011 6:55 pm, Stephan Beal wrote: On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 7:52 PM, Eric e...@deptj.eu wrote: ... seems to be stuck on 7th November - not cache as I have checked from different machines. That's not a bug - there have been no commits since then. -- - stephan beal

Re: [fossil-users] Veracity

2011-10-19 Thread Eric Sink
IMO anyone who _thinks_ they need them is still living in the 1980's or early 1990's. Tell that to the gaming companies. They use version control, and their repositories contain large numbers of very large binary files (images). The absence of locks in the DVCS world is the main reason

Re: [fossil-users] Veracity

2011-10-19 Thread Eric Sink
over the world. -- E On 10/19/11 7:56 AM, Stephan Beal wrote: 2011/10/19 LluĂ­s Batlle i Rossell virik...@gmail.com mailto:virik...@gmail.com I think that the veracity documentation totally deludes. :) But it may be intended, as it's a product of sourcegear. Eric wrote a book about

Re: [fossil-users] Listing artifact IDs for shunning?

2011-10-05 Thread Eric
expect, I would worry about how to select the time interval, and I think the system should insist on keeping a comment about the deletion. Eric -- ms fnd in a lbry ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil

Re: [fossil-users] Listing artifact IDs for shunning?

2011-10-04 Thread Eric
and their artifacts. But only for that checkin! Eric -- ms fnd in a lbry ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users

Re: [fossil-users] Listing artifact IDs for shunning?

2011-10-04 Thread Eric
to use it properly. Eric -- ms fnd in a lbry ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users

Re: [fossil-users] any interest in integrating jimtcl w/fossil?

2011-09-20 Thread Eric
On Tue, September 20, 2011 6:38 pm, Steve Havelka wrote: Excuse my bluntness: that sounds like a terrible idea. Tcl is huge compared to fossil, and certainly not installed everywhere by default. And for what benefit? To have a full-blown programming language built in? That of course isn't

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil destroys repositories?

2011-07-26 Thread Eric
.html Any comments? --Russ P. This was discussed here at the time, see the archives at http://www.mail-archive.com/fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org/msg04665.html Eric -- ms fnd in a lbry ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil destroys repositories?

2011-07-26 Thread Eric
, I think the key message is in http://www.mail-archive.com/fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org/msg04699.html As I understand it, the repository was never destroyed at all, and uncommitted chages were destroyed by a fossil revert which does exactly that by design. Regards, Eric -- ms fnd

Re: [fossil-users] Supporting markwon syntax for wiki

2011-07-20 Thread Eric
with should fossil have hooks which still leads to complex interface issues. Not to mention people who want to clone a repository and join a project but can't get the right libraries on their system. Regards, Eric ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users

Re: [fossil-users] Needed: volunteer to autoconf Fossil

2011-07-06 Thread Eric
/ Not wishing to rain on anyone's parade, but, as it says in the autoconf info page, Those who do not understand Autoconf are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. Maybe not, but your first reference from the above page is a bit OTT (as some of the comments below it say). Regards, Eric

Re: [fossil-users] Needed: volunteer to autoconf Fossil

2011-06-15 Thread Eric Junkermann
On 15 Jun 2011, at 16:28, Andres Perera andre...@zoho.com wrote: i (now) prefer autotools because i spent some time getting comfortable with m4 Yes, I think failure to understand m4, or failure to realise that it needs to be understood, is one reason why people end up disliking

Re: [fossil-users] Non-synchronized Fossil repositories for same project, can it be done?

2011-05-25 Thread Eric
one day even though it is not the main reason for the extra branch). This is a variant on a Vendor Branch (http://www.cmcrossroads.com/bradapp/acme/branching/branch-structs.html#ThirdPartyLine) except that you pull frequently instead of just at release points). Eric

Re: [fossil-users] WHY IS FOSSIL REMOVING ALL MY CODE!

2011-05-24 Thread Eric
also think that your demand for humility conveys a more aggressive tone than the message you answered. Eric ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users

Re: [fossil-users] WHY IS FOSSIL REMOVING ALL MY CODE!

2011-05-23 Thread Eric
and doesn't ever lose anything from the repository unless it is explicitly shunned (which is never part of a normal workflow). Eric ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo

Re: [fossil-users] Leaves Now Open By Default?

2011-04-26 Thread Eric Junkermann
back at the above, I'm not sure I've actually added anything to the debate, but anyway ... Regards, Eric ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users

Re: [fossil-users] Home directory must be writable.

2011-03-19 Thread Eric
. HOME is just an environment variable, so if you could find some way to set it to some other location just before Fossil runs ... (a wrapper for fossil, perhaps) Eric ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil

Re: [fossil-users] Home directory must be writable.

2011-03-19 Thread Eric Junkermann
of the command shell). in which case a wrapper script is the way to go. Eric ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users

Re: [fossil-users] git equivalent commands

2011-03-11 Thread Eric
you need that git command, then figure out how Fossil could meet that need - and ask if it is really needed so much when you are using fossil instead of git. Eric ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org

Re: [fossil-users] Work flow with fossil (understanding conflict resolution)

2011-03-09 Thread Eric
! And, as Richard said, what is a fork? Regards, Eric ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users

Re: [fossil-users] ticket opened date

2011-02-12 Thread Eric
not believe it contains clock. Eric ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users

Re: [fossil-users] Post Git import cleanup

2010-11-17 Thread Eric
, but will everyone remember that a critical feature of any software anywhere in the VCS/SCM/whatever niche is that it should always tell the truth? Eric ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman

Re: [fossil-users] Extending Tcl idea

2010-10-26 Thread Eric
-contained as possible. So I don't think this is a good idea. Eric ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users

Re: [fossil-users] cmd line support for tickets

2010-10-07 Thread Eric
Eric e...@... writes: : fossil ticket fields depending on the rest of the possible syntax. : With checkin 3f06f272cd , i changed it to fossil ticket list fields and added fossil ticket list reports All commands can be shortend, f.e. fossil l f is valid! I assume you mean

Re: [fossil-users] cmd line support for tickets

2010-10-06 Thread Eric
ticket fields depending on the rest of the possible syntax. Regards, Eric ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users

Re: [fossil-users] Code review and branch per issue

2010-10-05 Thread Eric
nothing stops you re-using _any_ branch name later. Regards, Eric ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users

Re: [fossil-users] autobuild

2010-09-14 Thread Eric Junkermann
. There has to be something there waiting to be pushed. It could be waiting on an event rather than polling, but then there has to be an event co-ordinator... Eric -- Eric Junkermann ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http

Re: [fossil-users] Proposed Change To Wiki vs. HTML

2010-07-26 Thread Eric
. Which will give guidance to us all. Thankyou. I tried to say much the same some time ago, but you have made a better job of it. Eric ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman

Re: [fossil-users] filename contains illegal characters

2010-06-28 Thread Eric
don't really know which way it should be. Regards, Eric ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users

Re: [fossil-users] Patch to not show files not added to repository in /doc/ckout

2010-05-27 Thread Eric Junkermann
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 8:10 am, Michal Suchanek hramr...@centrum.cz wrote: On 26 May 2010 19:58, Eric Junkermann e...@deptj.eu wrote: ... what will be committed, since the repository doesn't know, you might It does as my patch demonstrates. Not the repository - vfile is in _FOSSIL_ which

Re: [fossil-users] Patch to not show files not added to repository in /doc/ckout

2010-05-26 Thread Eric Junkermann
On 25 May 2010 23:38, Eric Junkermann e...@deptj.eu wrote: On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 10:10 pm, Michal Suchanek hramr...@centrum.cz wrote: On 25 May 2010 19:59, Eric e...@deptj.eu wrote: ... But ckout is only available if the server is running in a local checkout, otherwise it is silently

Re: [fossil-users] Patch to not show files not added to repository in /doc/ckout

2010-05-25 Thread Eric
of doc files is rendered while you are still working on it. See the last paragraph of http://www.fossil-scm.org/fossil/doc/tip/www/embeddeddoc.wiki This is NOT a bug, it is a useful feature. Regards, Eric ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users

Re: [fossil-users] Internal hyperlinks, content-type and stuff

2010-05-19 Thread Eric
with a relative link such as img src=branch01.gif width=280 height=68 The fossil code that handles this is in src/doc.c if you are interested and can read C (or even if you can't) HTH Eric ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http

Re: [fossil-users] Internal hyperlinks, content-type and stuff

2010-05-19 Thread Eric
On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 5:06 PM, Michal Suchanek hramr...@centrum.czwrote: On 19 May 2010 20:27, Eric e...@deptj.eu wrote: It looks like images magically get the correct doctype when accessed through the doc/ urls so it's necessary to check them into the repo as managed files and access

Re: [fossil-users] Internal hyperlinks, content-type and stuff

2010-05-19 Thread Eric
I'm thinking Eric intended these links: http://www.fossil-scm.org/index.html/doc/tip/www/embeddeddoc.wiki http://www.fossil-scm.org/index.html/doc/tip/www/branching.wiki Instead of: snip Regards, Donald Well, what I intended was: http://www.fossil-scm.org/fossil/doc/tip/www

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil now uses the Simplified BSD License

2010-05-16 Thread Eric
can contribute to it. Eric ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users

Re: [fossil-users] Using ticket system from command line

2010-05-15 Thread Eric
to be a law that once a software product is sufficiently popular people want it to do everything, i.e. they want it to be a platform. Fossil sending email - probably OK. Fossil handling incoming mail - far too complicated and too far away from Fossil's core purpose, in my opinion. Eric

Re: [fossil-users] cgi.c

2010-05-12 Thread Eric
whatever the global variables resulting from the parse tell it to do. I don't know the answer to your debugging question, but you might benefit from fossil's approach - there is a way to run pretty much any code without being in server mode! HTH Eric

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil GUI for local source tree operations

2010-04-04 Thread Eric
removed at a particular time and not used thereafter. This follows the accounting principle that incorrect entries have to be reversed out, not made invisible. Without this it is not possible to demonstrate how some situation arose from an action taken while the repository was incorrect. Regards, Eric

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil GUI for local source tree operations

2010-04-01 Thread Eric
? when the day job has kept me away for a while, and Do I actually want to commit everything right now?, i.e. the way it works now. Eric ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman

Re: [fossil-users] Hiding files

2010-02-12 Thread Eric
a shortcut to do the rest of that. It might also be nice if the resulting page had a button for All Files and the all-files page had a brief note saying that the files shown might not be in a current checkin. Eric ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users

Re: [fossil-users] Please contribute Fossil skins or themes

2009-12-20 Thread Eric
comment in a skin (in skin.c) will be chopped to just ! by the translate program. In this case it would be OK to take that line out of the skin altogether, but I don't know if there can be a case where it will matter. Regards, Eric ___ fossil-users

Re: [fossil-users] Manifest files

2009-12-18 Thread Eric
answered that (in the message the one you answered was an answer to!). Seems the only way to keep everyone happy would be to make it another repository option. Eric ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil

Re: [fossil-users] tree checksum does not match

2009-12-15 Thread Eric
with the no-file in the checkout, so if it is restored fossil should report it as it does for a conventional merge. Eric ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil

Re: [fossil-users] The case for Markdown (yes, I rtfm)

2009-12-06 Thread Eric
as the wiki markup is concerned, we are still waiting. Eric ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users

Re: [fossil-users] Search WAS:The case for Markdown

2009-11-30 Thread Eric
From: Stephen De Gabrielle spdegabrie...@gmail.com Date: Mon, November 30, 2009 12:36 pm Hi, Does anyone else have a burning desire for a search facility to be added to Fossil? Cheers, Stephen DRH is working on it - see [20600107f1] Eric

Re: [fossil-users] The case for Markdown (yes, I rtfm)

2009-11-29 Thread Eric
, then do it that way - as project files. The other problem is introducing external dependencies for Fossil - have you noticed how few there are? My vote (somebody else mentioned votes!) is to leave the Fossil wiki alone (except for gradual improvement). Eric

Re: [fossil-users] The case for Markdown (yes, I rtfm)

2009-11-29 Thread Eric
, and the like. It's great for meta-documentation, and for communication among the development team. Use it for more than that and you're asking for trouble. I wish I'd said that! Eric ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil close

2009-03-19 Thread Eric
never open or close my primary local checkout for each repository. Actually, it feels like a change in philosophy - what does a repository mean? Regards, Eric ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org

Re: [fossil-users] fossil slow on binary file changes

2009-03-19 Thread Eric
if there is any synergy between this and the request for a database interface to TH? Eric ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users

Re: [fossil-users] fossil chan + fossil ext in one?

2009-03-09 Thread Eric
Thanks Eric and Michael. Ah - I didn't make myself at all clear here, sorry. What I'm after is for something like fossil change to also show _extra_ files that fossil extra would show (_not_ _added_ files as I incorrectly said in my post. Sorry.). So If I do this: EdgeRuby # fossil change

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