[fossil-users] Thank you developers for the unversioned feature...

2018-02-12 Thread Matt Welland
I'm finding the unversioned files to be extraordinarily useful. Thanks you all for implementing it. The most recent use case I found was to solve the annoying problem of having some changes that are not quite ready to commit and needing to move to another computer. By storing a patch as an

Re: [fossil-users] fossil help set no longer provides essential information

2018-01-05 Thread Matt Welland
On Fri, 2018-01-05 at 13:06 -0700, Andy Bradford wrote: > Thus said Richard Hipp on Fri, 05 Jan 2018 13:42:29 -0500: > > > > > Maybe  I just  need to  improve the  "fossil help  setting" > > output  to > > provide some clue about how to get help on individual settings? > That would be an  

Re: [fossil-users] fossil help set no longer provides essential information

2018-01-05 Thread Matt Welland
On Fri, 2018-01-05 at 13:42 -0500, Richard Hipp wrote: > On 1/5/18, Matt Welland <m...@kiatoa.com> wrote: > > > > Older versions of fossil would provide some very helpful > > information > > from "fossil help set": > > > > gmerg

[fossil-users] fossil help set no longer provides essential information

2018-01-05 Thread Matt Welland
Older versions of fossil would provide some very helpful information from "fossil help set": gmerge-command   A graphical merge conflict resolver command operating                  on four files.               Ex: kdiff3 "%baseline" "%original" "%merge" -o "%output"               Ex: xxdiff

[fossil-users] Request for different behavior with adding files in nested fossils

2016-05-03 Thread Matt Welland
Given directory structure like this: fossildirparent - fossilsubdir where fossilsubdir is fossil nested under fossildirparent If you cd to fossildirparent and do a fossil add of a file in fossilsubdir: cd fossildirparent fossil add fossilsubdir/somefile.txt The file

Re: [fossil-users] fossil update --latest not working

2016-04-07 Thread Matt Welland
On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 5:04 AM, John Regehr wrote: > Argh, thanks, sorry for the noise! > > John > > > On 4/7/16 2:02 PM, Richard Hipp wrote: > >> On 4/7/16, John Regehr wrote: >> >>> What is the branch tag reported by fossil status? Perhaps the branch

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil and symbolic links

2016-02-07 Thread Matt Welland
On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 4:55 PM, Yannick Duchêne wrote: > Hi people, > > I have a working directory containing symbolic links to directories. > Versioned files belong to these symbolically linked directories. > > If I have a modified file in one of these linked directory

Re: [fossil-users] Semi-annual drumming-up-of-support for libfossil

2016-01-21 Thread Matt Welland
This is way off topic but an interesting subject. Trying this is on my to-do list: http://blog.xkcd.com/2007/08/14/mirrorboard-a-one-handed-keyboard-layout-for-the-lazy/ By using workrave (http://www.workrave.org) religiously - especially micro breaks - RSI has gone from an escalating problem to

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil repo on a network share?

2015-11-17 Thread Matt Welland
On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 3:57 PM, Dömötör Gulyás wrote: > I've got an environment where it'd be good to put a fossil repo onto a > windows network share, as running an actual server is hindered by corporate > IT policy. Has anybody done this, or is this at least theoretically

Re: [fossil-users] symlinks (was Re: xkcd on git)

2015-11-03 Thread Matt Welland
On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 9:40 AM, Eric Rubin-Smith wrote: > > - Symlinks. Now we're getting into file system specifics. Some users >> may want to track them because they find them useful. What about users >> that find FIFOs or block devices or character device useful? Should >>

Re: [fossil-users] xkcd on git

2015-11-01 Thread Matt Welland
On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 2:14 AM, Stephan Beal <sgb...@googlemail.com> wrote: > On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 10:19 PM, Matt Welland <mattrwell...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Stephan Beal <sgb...@googlemail.com> >> wrote: >> >

Re: [fossil-users] xkcd on git

2015-10-31 Thread Matt Welland
Hmmm I'm in a loquacious sort of mood and this spiel got long so I'm adding a summary blurb, I recommend read the blurb and skip the rest. Summary: Modest needs of a lone developer not doing branching etc. can be met with file system based methodology. Even so IMHO an SCM is still a

Re: [fossil-users] xkcd on git

2015-10-31 Thread Matt Welland
On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 11:33 AM, Stephan Beal <sgb...@googlemail.com> wrote: > On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 6:45 PM, Matt Welland <mattrwell...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > [snip] > (i) Is fossil that much less arcane? Last I checked mv, cp and rm don't >> work the s

Re: [fossil-users] xkcd on git

2015-10-31 Thread Matt Welland
On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Stephan Beal <sgb...@googlemail.com> wrote: > On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 9:41 PM, Matt Welland <mattrwell...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> BTW, to some extent it is ok for fossil to be opinionated software that >> strives to dictate

[fossil-users] Why is fossil extras so slow?

2015-10-30 Thread Matt Welland
time find . -name foo.bar > /dev/null ; time fossil extras > /dev/null;time find . -name foo.bar > /dev/null ; time fossil extras > /dev/null 0.064u 0.404s 0:03.80 12.1% 0+0k 0+0io 0pf+0w# find 0.204u 1.160s 0:13.03 10.4% 0+0k 0+104io 0pf+0w # fossil extras 0.032u 0.288s 0:02.25 13.7%

Re: [fossil-users] Question about MERGE

2015-10-28 Thread Matt Welland
This is a surprisingly frequent need. Fossil is designed around a "get things right the first time" philosophy but real life is often not that crisp and clean. Being able to gracefully recover from mistakes and then get rid of the irrelevant leftover cruft would be a wonderful addition to fossil.

Re: [fossil-users] A branch that won't go away ...

2015-10-26 Thread Matt Welland
That was it. There was a very old branch that we missed. Thanks! On Oct 24, 2015 5:56 AM, "Richard Hipp" <d...@sqlite.org> wrote: > On 10/23/15, Matt Welland <mattrwell...@gmail.com> wrote: > > We have a fossil with a branch that was closed over a year ago where t

[fossil-users] A branch that won't go away ...

2015-10-23 Thread Matt Welland
We have a fossil with a branch that was closed over a year ago where the closed branch is showing up in the "fossil branch" list. I tried a few experiments, opening and closing the branch, rebuilding the repo, re-cloning etc. and that dang branch continues to show up in the command line listing

Re: [fossil-users] Markdown checkin comments and tickets (was: Multi line formatting)

2015-08-30 Thread Matt Welland
Good support for sending email would be wonderful. We are getting along by running rss2email, far from ideal but adequate. On Sun, Aug 30, 2015, 1:55 AM Baptiste Daroussin baptiste.darous...@gmail.com wrote: 2015-08-30 10:27 GMT+02:00 Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com: On Sun, Aug 30, 2015

Re: [fossil-users] painful merge

2015-08-10 Thread Matt Welland
On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 7:29 AM, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote: On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 4:22 PM, arnoldemu mem...@arnoldemu.freeserve.co.uk wrote: kdiff3 makes it hard work, I must go and resolve every little thing including whitespace and empty lines. Merging multiple lines is

Re: [fossil-users] quick poll: do you generally use add/rm or mv

2015-08-05 Thread Matt Welland
On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 8:01 AM, Andy Goth andrew.m.g...@gmail.com wrote: On 8/4/2015 12:59 AM, Stephan Beal wrote: On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 9:04 PM, Ross Berteig r...@cheshireeng.com mailto:r...@cheshireeng.com wrote: And then, there will be fresh set of edge cases with subtly different

Re: [fossil-users] quick poll: do you generally use add/rm or mv

2015-08-02 Thread Matt Welland
I've been using (and advising others to use) addremove because fossil mv behavior did not match Unix mv. The differences were confusing. I've no idea if fossil mv now behaves exactly like mv. The other issue was that fossil move did not keep the filesystem in sync with fossil which is also

Re: [fossil-users] Merging repositories

2015-07-16 Thread Matt Welland
I think Andy's suggestion(s) are your best bet but I want to mention what I've done in the past. Is your intent to co-mingle same-named branches? I.e. if there is a trunk in both source repos do you wish to merge both dev streams to a single trunk? I have done this via brute force in the past and

[fossil-users] clones taking 2x (or more?) time due to extra delta compression

2015-06-26 Thread Matt Welland
but I don't see any way to turn it off. also it looks like fossil has low tolerance for parallel running open process. I guess I naively assumed that since sqlite3 is mostly ACID compliant that parallel opening of fossils would be supported. I'm adding locking as a work-around but would the

Re: [fossil-users] Irrecoverable repository inconsistency between local and remote, after an assertion failure on Windows.

2015-06-03 Thread Matt Welland
Another thing to try if you haven't already done so is to rebuild repos at both ends. I've seen this fix weird sync errors a couple times. On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 6:12 PM, Andy Bradford amb-fos...@bradfords.org wrote: Thus said Ardie H. Hwang on Thu, 04 Jun 2015 06:01:15 +0900: Clearly,

Re: [fossil-users] trunk closed??

2015-05-29 Thread Matt Welland
This is an exceedingly confusing behavior from fossil but the fix is easy. Just do fossil up trunk. On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 11:36 AM, Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org wrote: On 5/28/15, jungle Boogie jungleboog...@gmail.com wrote: Hello All, I follow and update from trunk pretty

Re: [fossil-users] trunk closed??

2015-05-29 Thread Matt Welland
on a DAG. In short a very loud warning is needed, no matter what path you take. Just my $0.02. On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 9:05 AM, j. van den hoff veedeeh...@googlemail.com wrote: On Fri, 29 May 2015 17:38:39 +0200, Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org wrote: On 5/29/15, Matt Welland mattrwell

Re: [fossil-users] Feature idea: Protected branches

2015-05-13 Thread Matt Welland
On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 1:51 PM, Warren Young w...@etr-usa.com wrote: On May 12, 2015, at 2:31 PM, Matt Welland mattrwell...@gmail.com wrote: Does your team use Unix file permissions to prevent people from viewing files they have no right to be looking at? Are you suggesting that Fossil

Re: [fossil-users] Testing. Was: Two trunks?

2015-04-26 Thread Matt Welland
I like this idea. I will test this branch Monday. +1 On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 10:16 AM, Jan Nijtmans jan.nijtm...@gmail.com wrote: 2015-04-26 12:54 GMT+02:00 Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org: Yes, but it is not a fork. And so we shouldn't call it fossil forks since that would prevent us from

Re: [fossil-users] Two trunks?

2015-04-25 Thread Matt Welland
If a fork happens, merge it, change it into a branch or close it. There is no need for a forks page. All that is needed is to keep developers informed so the fork doesn't lie undetected and cause confusion. On Apr 25, 2015 11:35 AM, jungle Boogie jungleboog...@gmail.com wrote: On 25 April 2015

Re: [fossil-users] Two trunks?

2015-04-25 Thread Matt Welland
On Sat, Apr 25, 2015 at 1:48 PM, Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org wrote: On 4/25/15, Matt Welland mattrwell...@gmail.com wrote: There is no need for a forks page. All that is needed is to keep developers informed ... To my ears, those two sentences directly contradict one another

Re: [fossil-users] Two trunks?

2015-04-25 Thread Matt Welland
On Sat, Apr 25, 2015 at 9:50 PM, Andy Bradford amb-fos...@bradfords.org wrote: Thus said Matt Welland on Sat, 25 Apr 2015 15:05:54 -0700: Our preferred work style is to get feedback from the command line where possible. If notified of a fork during update, sync or commit a developer

Re: [fossil-users] Two trunks?

2015-04-25 Thread Matt Welland
On Sat, Apr 25, 2015 at 10:20 PM, Ron W ronw.m...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Apr 25, 2015 at 6:05 PM, Matt Welland mattrwell...@gmail.com wrote: A fork is seen as a failure of fossil to handle a commit that requires tiresome manual intervention to fix. But, doesn't a blocked merge due

Re: [fossil-users] Testing. Was: Two trunks?

2015-04-25 Thread Matt Welland
bf6ca looks very much like a potential accidentally orphaned commit. Did mistachkin commit his changes thinking they were on the branch branch-3.7.16 and part of the merge that led to sessions? Maybe, maybe not. The commit should be inspected and either merged, closed or named to a different

Re: [fossil-users] Two trunks?

2015-04-25 Thread Matt Welland
On Apr 25, 2015 8:57 PM, Ron W ronw.m...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Apr 25, 2015 at 6:05 PM, Matt Welland mattrwell...@gmail.com wrote: The expectation is that if a commit succeeds *it is a part of the series of commits on that branch*. This expectation is valid in git, it is valid in subversion

Re: [fossil-users] Two trunks?

2015-04-18 Thread Matt Welland
seeing. Disconnected users would sync in commits as before, potentially creating forks. The warning on fork detection code would still be needed. On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 4:14 AM, Matt Welland mattrwell...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 10:12 AM, Ron W ronw.m...@gmail.com wrote

Re: [fossil-users] Two trunks?

2015-04-18 Thread Matt Welland
On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 10:12 AM, Ron W ronw.m...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 7:24 AM, Joerg Sonnenberger jo...@britannica.bec.de wrote: As discussed earlier, a fork means more than one leaf for the same branch. And merging the leaf of a branch to another branch (maybe

Re: [fossil-users] Two trunks?

2015-04-18 Thread Matt Welland
, 2015 at 1:16 PM, Scott Robison sc...@casaderobison.com wrote: On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 12:19 PM, Ron W ronw.m...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 7:14 AM, Matt Welland mattrwell...@gmail.com wrote: #3 was looking problematic, possibly due to philosophy trumping pragmatism? Might

Re: [fossil-users] Two trunks?

2015-04-16 Thread Matt Welland
On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 1:38 AM, Jan Nijtmans jan.nijtm...@gmail.com wrote: 2015-04-14 21:11 GMT+02:00 Andy Bradford: Thus said Jan Nijtmans on Tue, 14 Apr 2015 16:36:18 +0200: Maybe more valuable would be to adapt the /leaves page, so people searching forks have an easy way to do so.

Re: [fossil-users] Two trunks?

2015-04-16 Thread Matt Welland
On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 5:37 AM, Jan Nijtmans jan.nijtm...@gmail.com wrote: 2015-04-16 13:44 GMT+02:00 Matt Welland mattrwell...@gmail.com: I'm confused by this. If the fork was merged to trunk it is no longer a fork and should not be detected. Can you elaborate? In fossil it is possible

Re: [fossil-users] Two trunks?

2015-04-16 Thread Matt Welland
On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 1:22 PM, Ron W ronw.m...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 3:57 PM, Matt Welland mattrwell...@gmail.com wrote: Since these are effectively forks that have been resolved by merging is it possible to detect them as such and not report them? I think

Re: [fossil-users] Two trunks?

2015-04-14 Thread Matt Welland
In short, if there are no false positive notifications on forks the fallout from this change should really be very minimal and the benefits for those who need it are substantial. The long-winded response: Mark Twain said it well, “I've lived through some terrible things in my life, some of which

Re: [fossil-users] Two trunks?

2015-04-13 Thread Matt Welland
Does fork notification really warrant another setting? If there is a fork on some other branch either fix by merging it or rename one of the legs. There is no sensible need for a fork to exist in a timeline that I can think of. Forks are rare in most repos (the intensely busy repos I deal with

Re: [fossil-users] Two trunks?

2015-04-13 Thread Matt Welland
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 1:59 AM, Jan Nijtmans jan.nijtm...@gmail.com wrote: 2015-04-13 6:31 GMT+02:00 Andy Bradford amb-fos...@bradfords.org: It's not yet merged to trunk, but I have borrowed from Jan's work and merged into the sync-forkwarn branch for what I think will provide a

Re: [fossil-users] Two trunks?

2015-04-09 Thread Matt Welland
This is the timeline from that repo. If there is data to sync and you are in the 0b2ff node then you get the double WARNING. [image: Inline image 1] On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 11:01 PM, Andy Bradford amb-fos...@bradfords.org wrote: Thus said Matt Welland on Wed, 08 Apr 2015 22:39:36 -0700

Re: [fossil-users] Two trunks?

2015-04-09 Thread Matt Welland
On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 7:43 AM, Andy Bradford amb-fos...@bradfords.org wrote: Thus said Matt Welland on Wed, 08 Apr 2015 21:07:00 -0700: Would it be possible to detect and warn on update, status and push? What about pull?? E.g. if I pull in new content that creates a fork should the pull

Re: [fossil-users] Two trunks?

2015-04-08 Thread Matt Welland
On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 9:39 PM, Andy Bradford amb-fos...@bradfords.org wrote: Thus said Matt Welland on Wed, 08 Apr 2015 21:07:00 -0700: matt@xena:/tmp/testing$ fossil sync Sync with file:///home/matt/fossils/blah.fossil Round-trips: 1 Artifacts sent: 4 received: 0 Server says

Re: [fossil-users] Two trunks?

2015-04-08 Thread Matt Welland
On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 5:57 PM, Andy Bradford amb-fos...@bradfords.org wrote: Thus said Matt Welland on Wed, 08 Apr 2015 08:27:00 -0700: What we are seeing is that forks happen due to simultaneous, partially overlapping, commits and that neither party involved in the two commits

Re: [fossil-users] Two trunks?

2015-04-08 Thread Matt Welland
On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 7:14 PM, Andy Bradford amb-fos...@bradfords.org wrote: Thus said Piotr Orzechowski on Tue, 07 Apr 2015 19:46:22 +0200: If they can happen when two people push to central repository one after another, then IMHO they should be blocked. Or at least there

Re: [fossil-users] Two trunks?

2015-04-08 Thread Matt Welland
On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 6:16 AM, Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org wrote: On 4/8/15, Matt Welland mattrwell...@gmail.com wrote: Today I got to hear from a team that had a very near serious QA escape due to an undetected fork. Can you provide more detail on this incident so that I can better

Re: [fossil-users] Two trunks?

2015-04-06 Thread Matt Welland
On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 10:05 AM, James Moger james.mo...@gmail.com wrote: I thought forks were blocked by the push in git. What scenario can lead to dual heads in git? By default non-fast-forward pushes (fork in Fossil terms) are blocked. This is what I thought. So what technical obstacles

Re: [fossil-users] Two trunks?

2015-04-06 Thread Matt Welland
On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 2:53 AM, Joerg Sonnenberger jo...@britannica.bec.de wrote: On Sun, Apr 05, 2015 at 02:59:27PM -0700, Matt Welland wrote: I understand (mostly) why git doesn't have this problem, it makes no pretense about being centralized and it doesn't allow the fork to happen

Re: [fossil-users] Two trunks?

2015-04-05 Thread Matt Welland
On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 12:48 PM, Joerg Sonnenberger jo...@britannica.bec.de wrote: On Sun, Apr 05, 2015 at 12:39:28PM -0700, Matt Welland wrote: The auto fork merge is the same as the automatic merge that one of the fork creators would have experienced if they had done their commit a few

Re: [fossil-users] Two trunks?

2015-04-05 Thread Matt Welland
On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 2:13 PM, Joerg Sonnenberger jo...@britannica.bec.de wrote: On Sun, Apr 05, 2015 at 01:56:06PM -0700, Matt Welland wrote: On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 12:48 PM, Joerg Sonnenberger jo...@britannica.bec.de wrote: On Sun, Apr 05, 2015 at 12:39:28PM -0700, Matt Welland

Re: [fossil-users] Two trunks?

2015-04-05 Thread Matt Welland
-distributed mode for those of us trying to use it in a corporate setting and a Unix mode where the constraints of Microsoft Windows could be ignored :) From: Matt Welland It would be very cool if on update if a fork was detected it was (optionally) automerged. If the merge had conflicts then it would

Re: [fossil-users] Two trunks?

2015-04-04 Thread Matt Welland
On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 6:11 AM, Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org wrote: On 4/3/15, Sean Woods s...@seanwoods.com wrote: On Fri, Apr 3, 2015, at 08:25 AM, Richard Hipp wrote: On 4/3/15, Sean Woods s...@seanwoods.com wrote: How can I merge both of these branches back into one trunk?

Re: [fossil-users] Introducing Lagerstatte, an open-source hosting service for Fossil repositories

2015-04-01 Thread Matt Welland
On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 6:55 PM, Andy Goth andrew.m.g...@gmail.com wrote: On 4/1/2015 3:21 AM, Vikrant Chaudhary wrote: I'm thinking about how this could be used at my workplace. On some projects we have shared computers called viewservers (view being a ClearCase term) on which we create

Re: [fossil-users] Introducing Lagerstatte, an open-source hosting service for Fossil repositories

2015-03-31 Thread Matt Welland
On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 10:57 PM, Vikrant Chaudhary vikr...@webstream.io wrote: fossil clone --cheap file:///path/to/upstream.fossil new-project.fossil +1 I think I would use this feature should it ever come available. I have 500M+ repos where a cheap clone would be quite nice to have. I

Re: [fossil-users] New timeline display options

2015-03-31 Thread Matt Welland
is which branch. Just my $0.02 ... -bch On 3/31/15, Matt Welland mattrwell...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 9:20 AM, Andy Bradford amb-fos...@bradfords.org wrote: Thus said Matt Welland on Mon, 30 Mar 2015 21:08:49 -0700: +1 circular nodes, +1 colored lines, seemed

Re: [fossil-users] New timeline display options

2015-03-31 Thread Matt Welland
On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 9:20 AM, Andy Bradford amb-fos...@bradfords.org wrote: Thus said Matt Welland on Mon, 30 Mar 2015 21:08:49 -0700: +1 circular nodes, +1 colored lines, seemed to make visually tracking the branch easier to my eyes. but as Brad said, a matter of style. Definitely

Re: [fossil-users] New timeline display options

2015-03-30 Thread Matt Welland
+1 circular nodes, +1 colored lines, seemed to make visually tracking the branch easier to my eyes. but as Brad said, a matter of style. On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 2:22 PM, bch brad.har...@gmail.com wrote: +1 circular nodes, -1 colored lines, as a matter of style, imo. Really nice work, though!

Re: [fossil-users] For your dscm-politik reading pleasure

2015-03-02 Thread Matt Welland
On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 1:37 PM, jungle Boogie jungleboog...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Matt, On 2 March 2015 at 12:14, Matt Welland mattrwell...@gmail.com wrote: The basic point made in the post by Mark Shuttleworth (in 2007 BTW) is a good one. Cleaning up or refactoring is hard to do

Re: [fossil-users] For your dscm-politik reading pleasure

2015-03-02 Thread Matt Welland
On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 11:46 AM, bch brad.har...@gmail.com wrote: Renames as first-class dscm operations: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/123 The basic point made in the post by Mark Shuttleworth (in 2007 BTW) is a good one. Cleaning up or refactoring is hard to do and ideally an

Re: [fossil-users] Wishlist: Interface to technotes from command line

2015-02-22 Thread Matt Welland
. Once I started doing this my RSI issues went away. On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 8:16 AM, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote: On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 4:10 PM, Matt Welland estifo...@gmail.com wrote: Technotes might be useful for automation. For example automated build sysmtems could post

[fossil-users] Wishlist: Interface to technotes from command line

2015-02-22 Thread Matt Welland
Technotes might be useful for automation. For example automated build sysmtems could post a technote when the build completes and passes validation. Just my $0.02 ... -- Matt -=- The moment we want to believe something, we suddenly see all the arguments for it, and become blind to the arguments

Re: [fossil-users] does fossil rstats exist?

2015-02-21 Thread Matt Welland
On Feb 21, 2015 1:34 PM, jungle Boogie jungleboog...@gmail.com wrote: Hello All, Came across this docs page today: http://www.fossil-scm.org/index.html/doc/2010-01-01/www/reference.wiki It references something I've never heard of, rstats: Deliver a report of the repository statistics for

Re: [fossil-users] does fossil rstats exist?

2015-02-21 Thread Matt Welland
On Feb 21, 2015 6:23 PM, jungle Boogie jungleboog...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Matt, On 21 February 2015 at 14:50, Matt Welland mattrwell...@gmail.com wrote: Secondly, can you check out a specific file on a repo if you give a path? I knwo checkout but that requires a version number. The cat

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil 2.0 (reprise)

2015-02-19 Thread Matt Welland
On Feb 18, 2015 11:47 PM, Warren Young w...@etr-usa.com wrote: On Feb 18, 2015, at 11:04 PM, Andy Bradford amb-fos...@bradfords.org wrote: I prefer monospaced fonts for most things that I do with text. We have hundreds of years of evidence that it is easier to read prose in a proportional

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil 2.0 (reprise)

2015-02-16 Thread Matt Welland
I really like the new look and the new features. It looks like it is almost time to qualify the new version and upgrade! A couple comments: 1. Under tickets it was initially non-obvious to me to click on reports to see more tickets. It might be nice to list the first 4 or so report types on the

Re: [fossil-users] fixing db locked error

2015-02-05 Thread Matt Welland
If an sqlite3 db gets locked on NFS the fix is to copy the file to a tmp dir and copy dump it: mkdir tmp cp foo.fossil* tmp rm foo.fossil* sqlite3 tmp/foo.fossil .dump | sqlite3 foo.fossil This deals gracefully with cases where there is a .journal file, locks and other problems. Just my $0.02

Re: [fossil-users] [Suggestion] Branch descriptions

2015-01-05 Thread Matt Welland
+1 IMHO this is a good idea. How technically feasible it is I have no idea. On Jan 4, 2015 10:59 AM, Philip Bennefall phi...@blastbay.com wrote: Hi all, I have a quick suggestion to present. While browsing the SqLite timeline, it struck me that I don't know what a lot of the branches are and

[fossil-users] Symlinks issue, replacing a symlink with a directory breaks fossil update

2014-11-03 Thread Matt Welland
(I posted this initially to the symlinks appear as regular files thread, reposting as new thread). Someone reported to me that there are problems when a symlink is replaced with a directory or vice versa. Here is the script that he generated to illustrate the issue: ## Create repo and initial

Re: [fossil-users] proposed patch: symlinks appear as regular files even when allow-symlinks is on

2014-10-31 Thread Matt Welland
Since you all are looking at symlinks someone reported to me that there are problems when a symlink is replaced with a directory or vice versa. Here is the script that he generated to illustrate the issue: ## Create repo and initial population fossil init bare.repo mkdir link_target_dir touch

Re: [fossil-users] auto-sync before merge?

2014-10-12 Thread Matt Welland
On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 8:01 PM, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 10:10 PM, Ross Berteig r...@cheshireeng.com wrote: Personally, I wouldn't expect that at all. The fossil merge command edits the currently open workspace based ... +1 The fossil update

Re: [fossil-users] auto-sync before merge?

2014-10-09 Thread Matt Welland
I've been mildly bitten by this behavior before. When merging from a branch a warning that you haven't sync'd would be a nice to have. Autosync prior to merge would work for me but the warning would be a decent alternative. On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 12:43 PM, Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org wrote: I

Re: [fossil-users] How to do branching with new major versions

2014-09-10 Thread Matt Welland
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 5:12 PM, Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org wrote: Sometimes we will make a check-in to trunk then later decide it doesn't belong there, so then move it into a branch. ( Isn't this only possible if no further commits have been made on the trunk? I suppose one possible fix

Re: [fossil-users] How to do branching with new major versions

2014-09-10 Thread Matt Welland
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 8:47 PM, Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org wrote: On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 10:48 PM, Matt Welland estifo...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 5:12 PM, Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org wrote: Sometimes we will make a check-in to trunk then later decide it doesn't

Re: [fossil-users] More on Fossil-v-Git

2014-09-05 Thread Matt Welland
On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Ron W ronw.m...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Gour g...@atmarama.net wrote: I use lto-2 tapes, but the point is that Fossil keeps project's history since the very beginning. :-) Still need to keep the Fossil repo backed up. Is there

Re: [fossil-users] Asciidoc(tor) Fossil

2014-08-14 Thread Matt Welland
On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 3:39 AM, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Gour g...@atmarama.net wrote: https://github.com/srackham/asciidoc-fossil-backend which says: https://github.com/srackham/asciidoc-fossil-backend; Sorry, i missed that part. i'm

Re: [fossil-users] syncing many repositories

2014-08-09 Thread Matt Welland
Using rsync, make and some smart log file processing using logpro I was able to bidirectionally sync over 250 fossils every two minutes between three sites. It worked very well for two years and then we switched to all sites using ssh. If details on this would be useful let me know and I'll write

[fossil-users] Fossil does not handle this (ugly) scenario gracefully

2014-07-28 Thread Matt Welland
A fossil user accidentally created a file where he intended to create a directory. After correcting his mistake he was completely unable to commit. To repair this I moved his changes to a branch and recreated them correctly. I think fossil should handle this by disallowing a file to become a

Re: [fossil-users] 'open --nested', quick poll

2014-07-22 Thread Matt Welland
NOTE: In Unix there is the handy shortcut that you can leave off the target location: ln -s foo/bar will create the link: bar - foo/bar Quite handy and yet another reason for the parameter ordering used on Linux/Unix. On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 9:46 AM, Warren Young war...@etr-usa.com wrote:

Re: [fossil-users] 'open --nested', quick poll

2014-07-22 Thread Matt Welland
We are using -nested very successfully to break a large area of related but mostly independent sub-areas into multiple fossils. I'm very happy with it. BTW, the whole reason why the modern SCM approach used by fossil, git etc. is so powerful is because the number of degrees of freedom were

[fossil-users] committing to a *new* branch from a closed branch not currently possible?

2014-07-18 Thread Matt Welland
It seems it is not possible to commit to a new branch from a closed branch. this is version 1.28. I think this should be allowed. Closing a branch only implies to me that no more commits are to be made to that branch. -- Matt -=- 90% of the nations wealth is held by 2% of the people. Bummer to

Re: [fossil-users] committing to a *new* branch from a closed branch not currently possible?

2014-07-18 Thread Matt Welland
On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 10:23 AM, Eric Rubin-Smith eas@gmail.com wrote: Stephan Beal wrote: On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 6:06 PM, Matt Welland estifo...@gmail.com wrote: It seems it is not possible to commit to a new branch from a closed branch. this is version 1.28. I think

Re: [fossil-users] committing to a *new* branch from a closed branch not currently possible?

2014-07-18 Thread Matt Welland
: On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 6:06 PM, Matt Welland estifo...@gmail.com wrote: It seems it is not possible to commit to a new branch from a closed branch. this is version 1.28. I think this should be allowed. Closing a branch only implies to me that no more commits are to be made to that branch

Re: [fossil-users] committing to a *new* branch from a closed branch not currently possible?

2014-07-18 Thread Matt Welland
Personally I see limited usefulness in closing a leaf. It is branches that need to be closed (albeit by closing a leaf). I'll let the developers that are requesting this know that it ain't gonna happen. As was suggested they can open/re-close the node as needed. On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 12:09

Re: [fossil-users] libfossil: new script binding

2014-07-17 Thread Matt Welland
I keep hoping to make time to work on a Chicken Scheme binding for libfossil (it would be really help in several projects I'm working on) so I'm keenly following your progress on libfossil. Anyhow in your post I couldn't help but think of Greenspuns Tenth Rule of Programming :)

Re: [fossil-users] purge/shun single branch(es)

2014-07-14 Thread Matt Welland
The desire for this ability, to sync or purge specific branches, has many possible motives - only one of which is hiding something :) Having the ability to push, remove and create private branches on a individual basis would make it much easier to use fossil for a gatekeeper based build system.

Re: [fossil-users] Forks are fun.

2014-07-11 Thread Matt Welland
On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 11:04 AM, Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org wrote: On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 1:51 PM, Matt Welland estifo...@gmail.com wrote: I'd like to make life a little easier for the people using fossil here. I, personally, take no great concern with an occasional accidental fork

Re: [fossil-users] [fossil extras] versus symlinks

2014-07-10 Thread Matt Welland
What is allow-symlinks set to for you? From context it sounds like it is set to yes. If so this is *terrible* behavior and a bad bug. If it is set to 0 (IMHO an awful option that is default and should not even exist [i] ) then I think what you are seeing is the expected behavior. [i] In my

[fossil-users] Forks are fun.

2014-07-10 Thread Matt Welland
I'd like to make life a little easier for the people using fossil here. There are some behavioral changes that can be made (do more work on branches for example) but it would be nice if this could be improved. Three unintentional forks here caused some unnecessary ugliness on the timeline.

Re: [fossil-users] [fossil extras] versus symlinks

2014-07-10 Thread Matt Welland
On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 11:38 AM, Andy Goth andrew.m.g...@gmail.com wrote: It is versionable, Ha! I can't believe I didn't think of taking advantage of this! I'll have to look at how to build creating the .fossil-settings dir + appropriate files into the fsl wrapper on creation of a new

Re: [fossil-users] Automating a clone - any other way than the URL to pass in password?

2014-07-06 Thread Matt Welland
Thanks for the replies. On Linux I'll just use the url password and do: echo y|fossil clone I'm sure Google knows the equivalent magic invocation for windows. On Jul 5, 2014 10:19 AM, Matt Welland estifo...@gmail.com wrote: I'd like to automate a clone but I think I'd prefer

[fossil-users] Automating a clone - any other way than the URL to pass in password?

2014-07-05 Thread Matt Welland
I'd like to automate a clone but I think I'd prefer the password not be in the URL. The concern is that the password in the URL might be visible in the webserver logs. First, is this a legit concern? Second, how best to do this? AFAICT there is no switch for fossil to take the password in on

Re: [fossil-users] no common ancestor

2014-06-18 Thread Matt Welland
IIRC this can happen if a file is created independently in both branches. On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 10:55 AM, Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org wrote: On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 1:52 PM, B Harder brad.har...@gmail.com wrote: If everything is (ultimately) spawned from the initial empty checkin, how

Re: [fossil-users] fossil CLI tricks: interrupting a commit message

2014-06-16 Thread Matt Welland
Under bash another way to achieve the goal of temporarily putting your partially written commit command aside is to do: ^a ^k This puts your command in the cut buffer. To retrieve it (after having run fossil gdiff to figure out what you did!) just do: ^y On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 1:24 PM,

Re: [fossil-users] How to deal with incomplete code?

2014-06-14 Thread Matt Welland
On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 1:02 PM, to...@acm.org wrote: Private branches? I don't know, I'll give that a try. Thanks for your suggestion. Questions (to all): 1. If the only way is to use a special branch to do what I need, can at least a single branch be reused multiple times? I mean the

[fossil-users] Annoying timeline merge lines that go back to infinity ...

2014-06-11 Thread Matt Welland
If you have a branch with a merge from a hidden branch the merge line goes back to infinity. I think it would be more sensible if it turned into a dotted line for a few mm and then ended. -- Matt -=- 90% of the nations wealth is held by 2% of the people. Bummer to be in the majority...

Re: [fossil-users] Index (was Re: git-fossil-git does not obtain the same commit hashes.)

2014-06-07 Thread Matt Welland
On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 10:51 PM, Nico Williams n...@cryptonector.com wrote: On Saturday, June 7, 2014, Andy Bradford amb-sendok-1404710677.ahchkeilcibgninda...@bradfords.org wrote: Thus said Nico Williams on Fri, 06 Jun 2014 18:45:13 -0500: I should add that it's not always possible or

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