Re: [fossil-users] Why do we need a fossil hosting service?

2013-04-02 Thread Steve Havelka
On 03/30/2013 02:59 AM, Stephan Beal wrote: On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 4:06 AM, Steve Havelka yo...@q7.com mailto:yo...@q7.com wrote: You're saying that Fossil is intended to be used by few people, or that Fossil is intended not to have a user community? Fossil _repos_

Re: [fossil-users] Why do we need a fossil hosting service?

2013-03-29 Thread Steve Havelka
On 03/29/2013 09:29 AM, James Bremner wrote: Just wondering why we need a dedicated fossil hosting service. I have managed for years without. For example: Copy fossil repository to dropbox folder; make folder publicly available, or privately share it. Done! Am I missing something?

Re: [fossil-users] Why do we need a fossil hosting service?

2013-03-29 Thread Steve Havelka
On 03/29/2013 05:56 PM, Richie Adler wrote: Matt Welland decía, en el mensaje Re: [fossil-users] Why do we need a fossil hosting service? del Viernes, 29 de Marzo de 2013 14:38:25: Ability for loosely coupled collaboration (i.e. fork). Not exactly what Fossil was designed for, I believe...

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil vs. Git/Mercurial/etc.?

2012-12-31 Thread Steve Havelka
On 12/31/2012 06:21 AM, Jan Danielsson wrote: On 12/31/12 11:17, Nico Williams wrote: [---] But I feel I must at least address this insinuation that I was trolling. It's obvious that you aren't trolling. You don't have to defend yourself against such nonsense. I agree with Jan. I also

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil vs. Git/Mercurial/etc.?

2012-12-30 Thread Steve Havelka
On 12/30/2012 03:26 PM, Michael Richter wrote: If I had written a ten-page post explaining in excruciating detail what rebase is, why it matters, and how to adapt it to the Fossil philosophy, who -but who!- would have read that first post? I, for one, would have. I wouldn't

Re: [fossil-users] why does `fossil rm' not do the real thing?

2012-12-15 Thread Steve Havelka
On 12/15/2012 03:52 AM, Jan Danielsson wrote: On 12/15/12 05:26, Joe Mistachkin wrote: My opinion is that backward compatibility should be retained because various people, including several that may not be involved in this discussion, have existing scripts and other automation that relies upon

Re: [fossil-users] why does `fossil rm' not do the real thing?

2012-12-15 Thread Steve Havelka
On 12/15/2012 06:28 PM, Joe Mistachkin wrote: Jan Danielsson wrote: First, I feel you're inventing problems to make arguments in order to exclude features which address real world issues. (A little like the script issue brought up earlier). Straw man argument. Five yard penalty, still

Re: [fossil-users] Obvious solution to the rm/mv problem?

2012-12-14 Thread Steve Havelka
On 12/14/2012 06:15 PM, Richard Hipp wrote: On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 8:58 PM, Themba Fletcher themba.fletc...@gmail.com mailto:themba.fletc...@gmail.com wrote: Could I humbly suggest unmanage for the name of the remove-from-repo-and-leave-the-disk-alone command? This would be

Re: [fossil-users] why does `fossil rm' not do the real thing?

2012-12-13 Thread Steve Havelka
On 12/13/2012 07:38 AM, Richard Hipp wrote: FWIW, I am following this thread with great interest. I think I understand the various points of view. I think most everybody brings up good points, and I encourage this kind of discussion. My current leanings are to change rm and mv as follows:

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil design error and possible ways to fix it

2012-11-23 Thread Steve Havelka
On 11/22/2012 05:05 AM, Richard Hipp wrote: (2) Always assume text/x-fossil-wiki for check-in comments that were entered prior to some cut-off date (say 2012-12-01) and assume text/plain thereafter. Perhaps the cut-off date can be changed for individual repositories using a configuration

Re: [fossil-users] Help improve bot exclusion

2012-10-30 Thread Steve Havelka
My guess is that you don't really want to filter out bots, specifically, but really anyone who's attempting to hit every link Fossil makes--that is to say, it's the behavior that we're trying to stop here, not the actor. I suppose what I'd do is set up a mechanism to detect when the remote user

Re: [fossil-users] Wiki naming limitations

2012-10-28 Thread Steve Havelka
It seems like, at least for now, you ought to patch your own copy--I'm not seeing any strong general response that that's a good or needed change to make, so you could be waiting a while if you're waiting on the main devs for this. On 10/28/2012 09:57 AM, K wrote: On Oct 26, 2012, Carlo Miron

[fossil-users] bug in error message

2012-08-21 Thread Steve Havelka
Can someone with commit privileges fix the help message on fossil scrub? [steve@localhost ~]$ fossil scrub fossil: use --repository or -R to specify the repository database [steve@localhost ~]$ fossil scrub -R myrepo fossil: Usage: fossil scrub ?REPOSITORY? aaand... [steve@localhost ~]$ fossil

Re: [fossil-users] Why is there both a checkbox and text field for adding tags?

2012-07-19 Thread Steve Havelka
Not all of them, I don't think - just the one directly adjacent to the new tag input field. I actually had the same experience as Nolan yesterday..I typed in a new tag name on the edit screen, hit the 'save' button, and the tag text I'd just typed wasn't there. I went to the edit screen again,

Re: [fossil-users] Why is there both a checkbox and text field for adding tags?

2012-07-19 Thread Steve Havelka
On 07/19/2012 10:28 AM, Stephan Beal wrote: Seems to have been just a long-term oversight (no pun intended). i can't say it's ever crossed my mind that a programming tool should need to be screen-reader friendly. It had never occurred to me that the fossil ui wouldn't play nicely with screen

Re: [fossil-users] Why is there both a checkbox and text field for adding tags?

2012-07-19 Thread Steve Havelka
What happens now, if the checkbox is checked but the text field is empty? On 07/19/2012 11:28 AM, Stephan Beal wrote: On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 8:26 PM, Steve Havelka smh...@gmail.com mailto:smh...@gmail.com wrote: Would something simpler do the trick? Like this - http

Re: [fossil-users] Why is there both a checkbox and text field for adding tags?

2012-07-19 Thread Steve Havelka
Perfect! On 07/19/2012 11:29 AM, Stephan Beal wrote: On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 8:28 PM, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com mailto:sgb...@googlemail.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 8:26 PM, Steve Havelka smh...@gmail.com mailto:smh...@gmail.com wrote: Would something

Re: [fossil-users] Why is there both a checkbox and text field for adding tags?

2012-07-19 Thread Steve Havelka
mailto:sgb...@googlemail.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 8:26 PM, Steve Havelka smh...@gmail.com mailto:smh...@gmail.com wrote: Would something simpler do the trick? Like this - http://pastebin.com/7k2B5iW9 That's 90% of it, but ignores the special case

Re: [fossil-users] Markdown engine integrated into fossil

2012-05-30 Thread Steve Havelka
On 05/30/2012 02:28 PM, Natacha Porté wrote: Hello, on Wednesday 23 May 2012 at 15:26, Richard Hipp wrote: Nevertheless, though attached by fraud, the name is still inappropriate, and must be changed before being added to Fossil. Thanks to some invaluable help, I finally managed to get it

Re: [fossil-users] Help finding download links. Was: SQLite and Windows Metro Style

2012-03-16 Thread Steve Havelka
I've heard the same complaint a couple of times. I'd suggest, underneath Timelines:, a new line, Source code: browse | download .tgz | download .zip. I'd then put the manifest link after the hash on the SHA Hash: line. I'd also rename the edit link to edit checkin properties and leave

[fossil-users] command line help question

2012-03-10 Thread Steve Havelka
Dear list, I built 1.21 from source tonight (no 64-bit prebuilt binaries), and noticed this in testing: steve@pewter ~/src/tmp/fossil-src-20111213135356 $ ./fossil Usage: ./fossil COMMAND ... or: ./fossil help -- for a list of common commands or: ./fossil help COMMMAND -- for

Re: [fossil-users] problem with illegal characters

2012-03-08 Thread Steve Havelka
If it is just three lines of code that filter out those characters, how difficult would it be to wrap those into a configurable option, enabled by default but with an option to disable for those who really know what they're doing? best, Steve On 3/8/2012 6:22 PM, Matt Welland wrote: I'm

Re: [fossil-users] A little self-promotion

2011-11-16 Thread Steve Havelka
On 11/16/11 4:11 PM, Ron Wilson wrote: On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 4:15 PM, Jacek Całajacek.c...@gmail.com wrote: and wonder why fossil is by default so humble to not include a link to its web site in the footer. Maybe to encourage users to contact their project leader first? In my team, I've

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil is Awesome

2011-10-26 Thread Steve Havelka
On Tue, 25 Oct 2011 18:51:05 -0700 Caleb Gray ca...@calebgray.com wrote: [trimmed ...] What are the community's feelings on jQuery? I get the gist that externals are trying to be avoided, so that's why I'm asking, I would love to write a library that turns the current site in to a highly

[fossil-users] wiki page names can't be less than 3 letters

2011-10-12 Thread Steve Havelka
Hi all, Today, while playing around with an experimental repository, I ran up against the character length limit (3-100 bytes) on wiki page names. The limit is not, I discovered, on the number of characters in the page name, but just the number of bytes, i.e. unicode page names consisting of

Re: [fossil-users] Listing artifact IDs for shunning?

2011-10-05 Thread Steve Havelka
On 10/5/11 2:19 AM, Eric wrote: On Wed, October 5, 2011 6:14 am, Matt Welland wrote: ... Every time pragmatism loses to philosophy someone, somewhere, is gonna get screwed. But pragmatic decisions made by someone who doesn't understand the philosophy/principles/rules can also cause problems,

Re: [fossil-users] Listing artifact IDs for shunning?

2011-10-04 Thread Steve Havelka
On 10/4/11 4:11 PM, Dmitry Chestnykh wrote: Found it. In the UI, go to the Files section, select a file, click on Shun in the menu bar, and finalize with Rebuild. As has already been said, you don't really want to do that. If you think you do, you do not understand what Fossil is for, nor do

Re: [fossil-users] Listing artifact IDs for shunning?

2011-10-04 Thread Steve Havelka
On 10/4/11 4:35 PM, Dmitry Chestnykh wrote: Oh, sorry, I'm not talking about Fossil's philosophy (I'm okay with not deleting stuff), I'm talking about about the tone of the message (nor do you understand the principles of software engineering). Well, I agree with you there, too. : )

Re: [fossil-users] any interest in integrating jimtcl w/fossil?

2011-09-20 Thread Steve Havelka
Excuse my bluntness: that sounds like a terrible idea. Tcl is huge compared to fossil, and certainly not installed everywhere by default. And for what benefit? To have a full-blown programming language built in? That of course isn't a benefit in itself. If an organization needs some sort

[fossil-users] Escape characters in the wiki

2011-05-01 Thread Steve Havelka
Hi all. This might be a very simple question, but I've poked around a bit to try to find an answer and have come up empty. How do you escape the square brackets [ and ] in wiki-markup, so that they're not turned into links? E.g., array[x] = 1; -- don't want [x] turned into a link. I tried \,