[fossil-users] More on Fossil-v-Git

2014-09-05 Thread Richard Hipp
There seems to be a spirited debate on the relative merits of Fossil and Git going on at the Russian-language website: http://habrahabr.ru/post/235369/ Machine translation here: https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=ensl=rutl=enu=http%3A%2F%2Fhabrahabr.ru%2Fpost%2F235369%2F My

Re: [fossil-users] More on Fossil-v-Git

2014-09-05 Thread Stephan Beal
On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 1:51 PM, Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org wrote: cannot seem to grasp why anyone would ever consider using Fossil. They certainly will after they've lost enough data. If not, their loss. - stephan beal http://wanderinghorse.net/home/stephan/ http://gplus.to/sgbeal

Re: [fossil-users] More on Fossil-v-Git

2014-09-05 Thread Arseniy Terekhin
This article is about fossil usage only. The author say nothing about how cool and rock solid fossil is. I expected to see some facts from fossil-v-git.wiki. Really upset with the article as it seems to only confuse Russian community. On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 3:51 PM, Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org

Re: [fossil-users] More on Fossil-v-Git

2014-09-05 Thread Ron W
On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 7:51 AM, Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org wrote: My summary: Some people get it and understand why Fossil is an interesting idea. Others (perhaps due to different backgrounds or work styles or expectations) cannot seem to grasp why anyone would ever consider using Fossil.

Re: [fossil-users] More on Fossil-v-Git

2014-09-05 Thread Gour
On Fri, 5 Sep 2014 10:48:11 -0400 Ron W ronw.m...@gmail.com wrote: The intermediate to advanced git users I've talked with seem to take the position that version control is not a backup means that history is in the back ups. I just wonder how 'long' is the usual backup history...

Re: [fossil-users] More on Fossil-v-Git

2014-09-05 Thread Ron W
On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 10:55 AM, Gour g...@atmarama.net wrote: On Fri, 5 Sep 2014 10:48:11 -0400 Ron W ronw.m...@gmail.com wrote: The intermediate to advanced git users I've talked with seem to take the position that version control is not a backup means that history is in the back ups.

Re: [fossil-users] More on Fossil-v-Git

2014-09-05 Thread Gour
On Fri, 5 Sep 2014 12:34:39 -0400 Ron W ronw.m...@gmail.com wrote: Depends on who is maintaining the backups. [...] For my personal use, I have 2 growing stacks of hard drives. As I fill the current pair, I store them in 2 different heat and water resistant document boxes in opposite

Re: [fossil-users] More on Fossil-v-Git

2014-09-05 Thread Scott Robison
FYI the Google translation service is reporting that the site is compromised in some way. So no translation at the moment, and I would probably advise extreme caution loading the original site even of you can read Russian. Sorry for top post, sent from phone. SDR On Sep 5, 2014 5:52 AM, Richard

Re: [fossil-users] More on Fossil-v-Git

2014-09-05 Thread Ron W
On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Gour g...@atmarama.net wrote: I use lto-2 tapes, but the point is that Fossil keeps project's history since the very beginning. :-) Still need to keep the Fossil repo backed up. But yes, I like that Fossil is designed to preserve the history instead of being

Re: [fossil-users] More on Fossil-v-Git

2014-09-05 Thread Gour
On Fri, 5 Sep 2014 15:10:31 -0400 Ron W ronw.m...@gmail.com wrote: It is possible to organize history in Fossil by doing your work on private branches, then creating organized views in your work space and committing those to trunk and/or release branches. There is one thing I'd like to see

Re: [fossil-users] More on Fossil-v-Git

2014-09-05 Thread Matt Welland
On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Ron W ronw.m...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Gour g...@atmarama.net wrote: I use lto-2 tapes, but the point is that Fossil keeps project's history since the very beginning. :-) Still need to keep the Fossil repo backed up. Is there

Re: [fossil-users] More on Fossil-v-Git

2014-09-05 Thread Warren Young
On 9/5/2014 13:36, Matt Welland wrote: On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Ron W ronw.m...@gmail.com mailto:ronw.m...@gmail.com wrote: Still need to keep the Fossil repo backed up. Is there really a need for a backup if you have offsite fossils to which you regularly sync? Probably not. I

Re: [fossil-users] More on Fossil-v-Git

2014-09-05 Thread sky5walk
Repo backups saved me in this scenario. A developer did a fossil add *.* by mistake and committed. Well, that bloated our repo size tenfold. We knew quickly because push/pulls were taking too long. A query to this mailing list mentioned shun's and rebuilds, but I had already made some poor hacks

Re: [fossil-users] More on Fossil-v-Git

2014-09-05 Thread Andreas Kupries
On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 1:24 PM, sky5w...@gmail.com wrote: I asked about an automated shun, but shun is not available except through ui. :( http://core.tcl.tk/akupries/fx/index fx help ... Advanced Armed Dangerous Shunning fx shun add uuid... Shun artifacts

Re: [fossil-users] More on Fossil-v-Git

2014-09-05 Thread Ron W
On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 3:36 PM, Matt Welland estifo...@gmail.com wrote: I'd like support for moving nodes around a branch - but I want it to produce new branches. I.e. it is an additive process, not a lossy one. I had one really horrible merge where 100's of lines of code were conflicting. By

Re: [fossil-users] More on Fossil-v-Git

2014-09-05 Thread Ron W
On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 3:36 PM, Matt Welland estifo...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Ron W ronw.m...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Gour g...@atmarama.net wrote: I use lto-2 tapes, but the point is that Fossil keeps project's history since the very

Re: [fossil-users] More on Fossil-v-Git

2014-09-05 Thread sky5walk
Interesting, but I am unsuccessful attempting to read any of what you post? Can you provide a url directly to 'fx shun add' documentation? Or do I have to install this to become Armed Dangerous? :) On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 4:39 PM, Andreas Kupries andre...@activestate.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 5,

Re: [fossil-users] More on Fossil-v-Git

2014-09-05 Thread Andreas Kupries
On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 4:09 PM, sky5w...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting, but I am unsuccessful attempting to read any of what you post? My apologies for making my post short and inscrutable. Can you provide a url directly to 'fx shun add' documentation? Or do I have to install this to become