Re: [fossil-users] New skin: Blitz
I sent DRH a new bundle with some tweaks. - set padding on a instead of li in .mainmenu - adjust font-sizes on diff panels to 1rem, Blitz is 1rem=10px. 0.85rem is too small. - set the timeline checkin-id to lowercase rather than uppercase As for the content-width... the reason to set a max width is to avoid distortion of content. It's a common practice in webapps. This is often coupled with responsive design where components are shown/hidden based on CSS media queries. This allows a UI to scale gracefully from handhelds to desktops. Most current CSS toolkits feature responsive layout classes, but adoption of one would require changes to the Fossil-generated HTML, not just wrapping a header and a footer around the current generated content. -J ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] New skin: Blitz
On 16 March 2015 at 15:13, James Moger james.mo...@gmail.com wrote: I sent DRH a new bundle with some tweaks. - set padding on a instead of li in .mainmenu - adjust font-sizes on diff panels to 1rem, Blitz is 1rem=10px. 0.85rem is too small. - set the timeline checkin-id to lowercase rather than uppercase As for the content-width... the reason to set a max width is to avoid distortion of content. It's a common practice in webapps. This is often coupled with responsive design where components are shown/hidden based on CSS media queries. This allows a UI to scale gracefully from handhelds to desktops. Most current CSS toolkits feature responsive layout classes, but adoption of one would require changes to the Fossil-generated HTML, not just wrapping a header and a footer around the current generated content. Maybe I am stating the obvious but it does not make sense to scale the main content area to arbitrarily wide screens. At some point the lines get so long they are pain to read. Of course, this length is individual to some extent and it would be nice tunable parameter but there certainly should be a limit. When you have headers and footers that you can reflow beside the main content and a toolkit that has the ability it's fine but that still does not extend to arbitrarily wide screen. Thanks Michal ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] New skin: Blitz
It depends on the selected toolkit, but there are generally two approaches: 1. allow reflow 2. show/hide Blitz is based on Skeleton without any of the response classes. Skeleton supports reflow only. http://getskeleton.com/#grid Bootstrap - much heavier/larger and more powerful - supports reflow and show/hide. http://getbootstrap.com/css If I take the timeline, for example, there is a lot of content and density. If you wanted to display it legibly on a phone (i.e. without pinch/zoom) you'd have to hide elements from displayed page. This would be done by specifying additional css classes on the elements within the timeline table that allowed/prohibited display on small screen devices. If you want a live example based on (older) Bootstrap, take a look at this page https://dev.gitblit.com/summary/gitblit.git with different browser form-factors. -J On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 10:26 AM, Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org wrote: On 3/16/15, James Moger james.mo...@gmail.com wrote: adoption of [a responsive interface] would require changes to the Fossil-generated HTML, not just wrapping a header and a footer around the current generated content. Can you elaborate? What changes would be required? -- D. Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] New skin: Blitz
Hi Sean, Normalize gets you to a level playing field across browsers but it is a starting point for creating a consistently operating CSS theme - it's not an endpoint. If you want a modern-looking CSS toolkit and don't mind looking like almost everyone else, then Twitter Bootstrap is a great choice. It has an impressive array of canned components and is the one that most other projects integrate with. If you want something powerful but a little more bare-bones, then I would checkout Zurb Foundation. In the Blitz skin I use a minimalistic toolkit (Skeleton) and I threw away half of it modified the remainder. To start off with you'd probably be happiest with Twitter Bootstrap. -J On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 9:26 PM, Sean Woods s...@seanwoods.com wrote: No, I couldn't fill that role for you. I'm an independent developer and not associated with the core Git team. (A bit off-topic) I am impressed with your Blitz skin and also the relatively new skin on the main fossil web site. Do you have any quick tips/resources on how I can make my sites look more modern? I know you mentioned Normalize and I have also heard about Bootstrap, but I guess I'm looking more towards general techniques on more cutting edge CSS. When I design a web site it tends to look like it's stuck in 2004. Functionality wise I don't really care but it might be interesting to freshen up a bit. I am NOT a designer and have very little visual sense so something for a mere programmer would be appreciated. ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] New skin: Blitz
Am 14.03.2015 um 16:52 schrieb jungle Boogie: Does anyone else have issues reading diffs? Me too. After years spent glaring at computer screens Ctrl++ became my friend -- being too obstinate to wear glasses I'm probably not a yardstick for proper font-size. ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] New skin: Blitz
On 3/13/15, James Moger james.mo...@gmail.com wrote: I decided to make some time to play with your DVCS (being a fan of SCM) and to whip-up a new skin accompanying resources to contribute to your effort. https://www.fossil-scm.org/fossil/artifact/f10bb06c1015336a?ln=745 I sometimes have browser windows that are significantly wider than 900px. (And also sometimes significantly narrow.) Would it mess up the look to remove the upper bound on the width? I would have thought that a lower bound would be more important. What's the rationale here? -- D. Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] New skin: Blitz
Perfect skin. I really like `login` button positioning. One thing though,
shouldn't it be
.mainmenu li a{padding: 10px 15px;}
instead of
.mainmenu li {padding: 10px 15px;}
as I expect to see clickable object as li background changes
On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 9:11 PM, James Moger james.mo...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello Fossil community,
My name is James and I am not a Fossil user, I'm a git user. I also
happen to run a moderately successful on-premise Git server project not
unlike Fossil, http://gitblit.com. But that is not why I am writing you.
I've long been an admirer of Fossil's integrated approach and I
periodically check-in to see how things are moving along in this project.
I see that in the last few releases Fossil has been getting a lot more
competent and that is great.
I decided to make some time to play with your DVCS (being a fan of SCM)
and to whip-up a new skin accompanying resources to contribute to your
effort. This theme, Blitz, is demonstrated here:
http://dev.gitblit.com:8080/cgi-bin/repo/fossil
http://dev.gitblit.com:8080/cgi-bin/repo/sqlite
If you've ever seen Gitblit, then this theme will feel comfortable,
although it is specialized for Fossil and shares little of the same CSS
code.
Blitz has two variants (with logo without logo). It includes an
alternative Ticket page layout and several image resources which may be of
use to other skins.
@Richard: I've emailed a signed CLA and a bundle for your review and
integration consideration.
I hope to contribute more in the future.
-J
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Re: [fossil-users] New skin: Blitz
On 3/13/15, James Moger james.mo...@gmail.com wrote: @Richard: I've emailed a signed CLA and a bundle for your review and integration consideration. The new skin (both the with and without logo variants) are now merged onto trunk. I hope to contribute more in the future. Please do. -- D. Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] New skin: Blitz
Hi James, Richard, On 14 March 2015 at 08:31, Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org wrote: On 3/14/15, Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org wrote: On 3/13/15, James Moger james.mo...@gmail.com wrote: @Richard: I've emailed a signed CLA and a bundle for your review and integration consideration. The new skin (both the with and without logo variants) are now merged onto trunk. The new skin can now also be previewed on-line at: https://www.fossil-scm.org/blitz/doc/trunk/www/index.wiki I like the new skin, especially the clever rss icon placement. I wear glasses and I'm long overdue for an optometrist appointment, but I find the diffs rather too small to read. https://www.fossil-scm.org/blitz/info/39f084cf2cf8791d https://www.fossil-scm.org/fossil/info/39f084cf2cf8791d vs. https://www.fossil-scm.org/skin2/info/39f084cf2cf8791d Andrew updated the latter skin from .75em to .85 and it makes all the difference: https://www.fossil-scm.org/skin2/info/56f9d72933fe966b Attached is what the diff looks like for blitz (and pretty much identical for default) in google chrome on windows. No, I didn't zoom to outterspace, my browser is at 100%. Does anyone else have issues reading diffs? -- D. Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org -- --- inum: 883510009027723 sip: jungleboo...@sip2sip.info xmpp: jungle-boo...@jit.si ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] New skin: Blitz
On 3/14/15, Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org wrote: On 3/13/15, James Moger james.mo...@gmail.com wrote: @Richard: I've emailed a signed CLA and a bundle for your review and integration consideration. The new skin (both the with and without logo variants) are now merged onto trunk. The new skin can now also be previewed on-line at: https://www.fossil-scm.org/blitz/doc/trunk/www/index.wiki -- D. Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] New skin: Blitz
On 13/03/15 19:11, James Moger wrote: [---] Blitz has two variants (with logo without logo). It includes an alternative Ticket page layout and several image resources which may be of use to other skins. Would you be willing to change the upper-case 'A-F' in hex digits to lower-case in the timeline? -- Kind Regards, Jan ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] New skin: Blitz
On 3/13/15, James Moger james.mo...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Fossil community, My name is James and I am not a Fossil user, I'm a git user. Thanks for sending in the CLA and the new skin. I announced just this morning plans to cut a release (1.32) tomorrow morning. Even though adding a skin is a very low-risk undertaking, I'm going to wait until after I cut the release to fold in your bundle. Sorry for the delay. So are you connected to the Git community? Can you be our bridge? There are number of ideas in Fossil that could be ported to Git to make Git better. The fossil all command, is one example that seems like it would be very easy to port and would provide a lot of benefit. I have a longer list, but I'll wait on your reply before typing them all. I also happen to run a moderately successful on-premise Git server project not unlike Fossil, http://gitblit.com. But that is not why I am writing you. I've long been an admirer of Fossil's integrated approach and I periodically check-in to see how things are moving along in this project. I see that in the last few releases Fossil has been getting a lot more competent and that is great. I decided to make some time to play with your DVCS (being a fan of SCM) and to whip-up a new skin accompanying resources to contribute to your effort. This theme, Blitz, is demonstrated here: http://dev.gitblit.com:8080/cgi-bin/repo/fossil http://dev.gitblit.com:8080/cgi-bin/repo/sqlite If you've ever seen Gitblit, then this theme will feel comfortable, although it is specialized for Fossil and shares little of the same CSS code. Blitz has two variants (with logo without logo). It includes an alternative Ticket page layout and several image resources which may be of use to other skins. @Richard: I've emailed a signed CLA and a bundle for your review and integration consideration. I hope to contribute more in the future. -J -- D. Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] New skin: Blitz
On 13/03/15 19:11, James Moger wrote: Hello Fossil community, [---] This just became my new favorite skin. Thank you for submitting this. -- Kind Regards, Jan ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] New skin: Blitz
So are you connected to the Git community? Can you be our bridge? No, I couldn't fill that role for you. I'm an independent developer and not associated with the core Git team. -J ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] New skin: Blitz
No, I couldn't fill that role for you. I'm an independent developer and not associated with the core Git team. (A bit off-topic) I am impressed with your Blitz skin and also the relatively new skin on the main fossil web site. Do you have any quick tips/resources on how I can make my sites look more modern? I know you mentioned Normalize and I have also heard about Bootstrap, but I guess I'm looking more towards general techniques on more cutting edge CSS. When I design a web site it tends to look like it's stuck in 2004. Functionality wise I don't really care but it might be interesting to freshen up a bit. I am NOT a designer and have very little visual sense so something for a mere programmer would be appreciated. ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
