Re: [Foundation-l] RfC: License update proposal

2009-01-31 Thread Ray Saintonge
David Goodman wrote: My view is that any restriction of distribution that is not absolutely and unquestionably legally necessary is a violation of the moral rights of the contributors. We contributed to a free encyclopedia, in the sense that the material could be used freely--and widely. We

Re: [Foundation-l] Are model releases required for 'Free' content? (was: Sexual Content on Wikimedia)

2009-01-31 Thread geni
2009/1/31 Geoffrey Plourde geo.p...@yahoo.com: Sam; I think that this is more of a Commons discussion. While I disagree with much of what you say, I agree that this class of image, by its very nature, requires more scrutiny. Serious thought should be given to a Nude Model Policy of

Re: [Foundation-l] Are model releases required for 'Free' content? (was: Sexual Content on Wikimedia)

2009-01-31 Thread Peter Jacobi
David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: I didn't add (or are supposed to be). Now I'm wondering if I was thinking of the personality rights tag. Can you please give an example link to the tag you are talking about? ___ foundation-l mailing list

Re: [Foundation-l] Are model releases required for 'Free' content? (was: Sexual Content on Wikimedia)

2009-01-31 Thread David Gerard
2009/1/31 Peter Jacobi pjacobi...@googlemail.com: David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: I didn't add (or are supposed to be). Now I'm wondering if I was thinking of the personality rights tag. Can you please give an example link to the tag you are talking about? This is the personality

Re: [Foundation-l] Agreement between WMF and O'Reilly Media about Wikipedia: The Missing Manual on Wikipedia?

2009-01-31 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/1/30 Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk: 2009/1/28 Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com: The new GFDL license only allows relicensing under CC-BY-SA of things either published for the first time on the wiki or added to the wiki before the new license was announced. Since this was

Re: [Foundation-l] RfC: License update proposal

2009-01-31 Thread David Goodman
I am proud of my work, not of my name being on my work. that's narcissism. On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 6:33 PM, Nikola Smolenski smole...@eunet.yu wrote: On Saturday 31 January 2009 11:23:33 Ray Saintonge wrote: David Goodman wrote: My view is that any restriction of distribution that is not

Re: [Foundation-l] RfC: License update proposal

2009-01-31 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
David Goodman wrote: I am proud of my work, not of my name being on my work. that's narcissism. It is a bit ego-centric to only care about how one self only views ones work as mattering. It is wise and pragmatic to acknowledge that not every individual thinks as one thinks themselves. That

Re: [Foundation-l] Re-licensing

2009-01-31 Thread Ray Saintonge
George Herbert wrote: Used relative to copyright law, the term unambiguously means what Mike is saying, the rights that Europe (and others) have assigned to actual authors distinct from copyright owners etc. The specific term as used in copyright law (as Mike says, a term of the art in that

Re: [Foundation-l] RfC: License update proposal

2009-01-31 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
Ray Saintonge wrote: David Goodman wrote: My view is that any restriction of distribution that is not absolutely and unquestionably legally necessary is a violation of the moral rights of the contributors. We contributed to a free encyclopedia, in the sense that the material could be

Re: [Foundation-l] Re-licensing

2009-01-31 Thread Ray Saintonge
Anthony wrote: Actually, the difference is quite relevant in a courtroom, especially when dealing with constitutional issues. That's why I find it nearly impossible to believe that Mike doesn't understand this. How in the world can you defend people's constitutional rights if you think

Re: [Foundation-l] RfC: License update proposal

2009-01-31 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
Ray Saintonge wrote: The only reason that moral rights is an issue is its inclusion in the statutes of various countries. It mostly stems from an inflated Napoleonic view of the Rights of Man that was meant to replace the divine rights of kings. Common law countries have been loath to