Why one small project changed from CC-by-nc-sa to CC-by-sa:
http://zak.greant.com/free-culture-vs-fear-culture-vs-fee-culture
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2009/2/18 Michael Snow wikipe...@verizon.net:
We do still plan to have a survey, although I don't think it's critical
that it precede the vote. The point of the survey is in particular to
get some more information that would help work out details for
attribution standards. Not everything is
Thomas Dalton wrote:
2009/2/18 Michael Snow wikipe...@verizon.net:
We do still plan to have a survey, although I don't think it's critical
that it precede the vote. The point of the survey is in particular to
get some more information that would help work out details for
attribution
Hoi,
The way I read Michael, it is an open issue never mind what license we
choose. It is therefore an issue whether we stay with the GFDL or not. It is
in my opinion weird to allow arguments that have no bearing whatsoever on
the subject make a difference.
Thanks,
GerardM
2009/2/18 Thomas
Hoi,
Sure but when the way we are going to do this is different from what the
license says anyway.. and this is the implication, then there is no point in
throwing the child away with the bathing water as you propose. So imho we
should compare the two licenses and in essence we already agree that
2009/2/18 Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com:
Sure but when the way we are going to do this is different from what the
license says anyway
It is? Then I won't be voting for it...
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It's already been made clear that the foundation has no obligation to
consult the community on this issue. My interpretation of Michael's
post is that he is restating this point. They are *going* to make the
switch, and when they do we will be bound by what the CC-BY-SA says
attribution is. We
2009/2/18 Brian brian.min...@colorado.edu:
It's already been made clear that the foundation has no obligation to
consult the community on this issue. My interpretation of Michael's
post is that he is restating this point. They are *going* to make the
switch, and when they do we will be bound
Thomas Dalton wrote:
2009/2/18 Michael Snow wikipe...@verizon.net:
That's why we made it a point to include some attribution standards in
the proposal, so that we don't vote on this in a vacuum.
I don't believe I've seen a formal proposal yet - did I miss it?
There's the
It's been said quite clearly that the foundation doesn't have to
consult the community, although not in this thread.
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/2/18 Brian brian.min...@colorado.edu:
It's already been made clear that the foundation has no
Hoi,
This is indeed an interesting question.. I hope that there are ways to
accommodate you.
Thanks,
GerardM
2009/2/19 basedrop based...@gmail.com
Hello,
I'm not sure if this is the place to pose this question, if not could you
respond with the proper place.
I'm building out a
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 6:36 PM, basedrop based...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
I'm not sure if this is the place to pose this question, if not could you
respond with the proper place.
You'd probably get better replies on wikitech-l, but you're here already.
I'm building out a social
2009/2/18 basedrop based...@gmail.com:
Hello,
I'm not sure if this is the place to pose this question, if not could you
respond with the proper place.
I'm building out a social networking site centered around an art and
arthistory theme. I would like to display a real time dynamic
2009/2/18 Ryan Kaldari kald...@gmail.com:
As far as anyone not subscribed to this listserv can tell, the
proposal to migrate Wikipedia to Creative Commons is dead in the
water. Despite requests for an update on-wiki, no updates have come
from the Foundation since January. Looking at the
The French Wikipedia wasn't created by the Foundation.
skype: node.ue
2009/2/18 basedrop based...@gmail.com:
Hello Thomas and thanks for your response.
I would point out that the foundation created a French version, hosted it
on French servers, in the French language because they saw the
Sue Gardner wrote:
Report to the Board: Davos
Prepared by: Sue Gardner, Executive Director
Prepared for: Wikimedia Board of Trustees
Date: February 3, 2009
Interestingly, a number of people complained to me about their
articles being overly negative. Obviously Jimmy gets this all the
2009/2/19 basedrop based...@gmail.com:
Hello Thomas and thanks for your response.
I would point out that the foundation created a French version, hosted it
on French servers, in the French language because they saw the benefit of
delivering something to a specific constituency.
Delivering
Thomas Dalton wrote:
2009/2/18 Michael Snow wikipe...@verizon.net:
We do still plan to have a survey, although I don't think it's critical
that it precede the vote. The point of the survey is in particular to
get some more information that would help work out details for
attribution
2009/2/19 Jussi-Ville Heiskanen cimonav...@gmail.com:
Without disagreeing on the importance of attribution standards
per se, it is clearly inaccurate to say that they signify how we
interpret the license. Contributors can be asked to waive
rights to content they add to the site (where they are
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 7:04 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/2/19 Jussi-Ville Heiskanen cimonav...@gmail.com:
Without disagreeing on the importance of attribution standards
per se, it is clearly inaccurate to say that they signify how we
interpret the license.
For the record, I disagree that the way we are going to do
this is different from what the license says anyway at least
as the starting point. I think it should be very carefully
thought about if there were a conscious decision to
violate the license explicitly. That said there is of course
a gray
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 8:38 PM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
cimonav...@gmail.com wrote:
Personally I can't fully agree. Where no new problems are
introduced, and old obstacles are removed, the move can
be a good thing in itself, irregardless of the ambiguities
that were there before, and still
On Tuesday, after Kat and I had spent a couple days assisting Sue and
Erik with interviews for the CPO position (an intriguing group of
candidates, by the way), I was at the BART station on my way to the
airport. I bought my ticket from the machine, and when I pulled my
receipt out of the
Hoi,
Thomas OTHER people can see this benefit.. It is not that hard.. even I can.
Thanks,
GerardM
2009/2/19 Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com
2009/2/19 Robert Rohde raro...@gmail.com:
Do other people agree that supporting live mirrors, if it could be
done in a practical manner,
Was it ever on French servers?
That aside: the two situations are entirely different. This proposal
is effectively outsourcing a section of Wikipedia to some experts
in the field. That's entirely unlike the Foundation deciding to add
an additional language for Wikipedia to appear in.
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