Re: [Foundation-l] Proposed revised attribution language

2009-03-14 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
Erik Moeller wrote: 2009/3/11 Jussi-Ville Heiskanen cimonav...@gmail.com: 3. If the intent is to maintain a stipulation that conforming to the license can be done by satisfying a significantly lower threshold than supplying the authors, but since we are doing that more onerous route,

Re: [Foundation-l] status of the licensing update

2009-03-14 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
Robert Rohde wrote: On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 8:38 PM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen cimonav...@gmail.com wrote: Personally I can't fully agree. Where no new problems are introduced, and old obstacles are removed, the move can be a good thing in itself, irregardless of the ambiguities that were

Re: [Foundation-l] Proposed revised attribution language

2009-03-14 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/3/14 Jussi-Ville Heiskanen I think you fail at logic. You could not have two mirrors linking to each others with neither listing the authors, if the first one to mirror was compliant with the CC-BY-SA. Posit the first mirror complied with and required compliance of that license. It

Re: [Foundation-l] Proposed revised attribution language

2009-03-14 Thread David Gerard
2009/3/14 Jussi-Ville Heiskanen cimonav...@gmail.com: The only thing *on* wikimedia websites that does satisfy that currently is the history of articles; a direct link into the history is sadly the only option available. I think it is way cool that people are thinking of innovative ways of

Re: [Foundation-l] Proposed revised attribution language

2009-03-14 Thread geni
2009/3/14 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com: 2009/3/14 Jussi-Ville Heiskanen cimonav...@gmail.com: The only thing *on* wikimedia websites that does satisfy that currently is the history of articles; a direct link into the history is sadly the only option available. I think it is way cool that

Re: [Foundation-l] Proposed revised attribution language

2009-03-14 Thread David Gerard
2009/3/14 geni geni...@gmail.com: 2009/3/14 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com: Here's an idea: nice URLs for the history. So we don't end up with stupid things peppered with ? and and = printed on mugs, travel guides, etc. If the people producing the mugs want that they are free to produce a

[Foundation-l] Wikimedia Hungary picture competiton

2009-03-14 Thread Bence Damokos
Dear All, Pray, allow me to announce the first ever international picture competition of Wikimedia Hungary. [1] The competition officially launching tomorrow, commemorating a Hungarian national holiday[2], is aimed at gathering visual representations - photographs, videos, maps, drawings, SVG

Re: [Foundation-l] Proposed revised attribution language

2009-03-14 Thread David Gerard
2009/3/14 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com: 2009/3/14 geni geni...@gmail.com: 2009/3/14 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com: Here's an idea: nice URLs for the history. So we don't end up with stupid things peppered with ? and and = printed on mugs, travel guides, etc. If the people producing the

Re: [Foundation-l] Proposed revised attribution language

2009-03-14 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
David Gerard wrote: 2009/3/14 Jussi-Ville Heiskanen cimonav...@gmail.com: The only thing *on* wikimedia websites that does satisfy that currently is the history of articles; a direct link into the history is sadly the only option available. I think it is way cool that people are thinking

Re: [Foundation-l] Proposed revised attribution language

2009-03-14 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/3/15 Jussi-Ville Heiskanen cimonav...@gmail.com: Hehe, I am way ahead of you, brother. I've already sort of put the idea out there, discreetly, that it would be cool if there was a url redirection service on wikimedia servers, that would shorten the urls into something like

Re: [Foundation-l] Licensing update committee open for membership applications

2009-03-14 Thread Thomas Larsen
I would actually be in favour of all committee members being required to publicly reveal their real names. The licensing update (if and when it occurs) would be major, historical event. People in charge of supporting/facilitating/implementing the decision regarding any license change should be

Re: [Foundation-l] Proposed revised attribution language

2009-03-14 Thread Ray Saintonge
Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote: Language will not bind contributors who understand they are protected by the copyleft provisions of both GFDL and CC-BY-SA. That just will not happen. In the real world much of the terms of use will be just so much arm-waving, let us be realistic. This just