[Foundation-l] Why Wikipedia and not the Wikipedia?

2009-06-27 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Hello, Could someone explain to me why Wikipedia is without definite article? In English you say the Britannica, so why not the Wikipedia? I am wondering that also in German Wikipedians and non-Wikipedians tend to drop the article, although we say der Brockhaus. Kind regards Ziko -- Ziko van

Re: [Foundation-l] Using Wikisource as an Alternative Open Access Repository

2009-06-27 Thread Michael Peel
On 26 Jun 2009, at 02:08, Samuel Klein wrote: Wikimedia currently doesn't like files as large as a feature film, or even a high-def short. (how should we address this? Brion mentioned something about making video easier to upload in November.) As I understand it, there are three issues with

Re: [Foundation-l] Why Wikipedia and not the Wikipedia?

2009-06-27 Thread Andrew Gray
2009/6/27 Ziko van Dijk zvand...@googlemail.com: Hello, Could someone explain to me why Wikipedia is without definite article? In English you say the Britannica, so why not the Wikipedia? I am wondering that also in German Wikipedians and non-Wikipedians tend to drop the article, although we

Re: [Foundation-l] Why Wikipedia and not the Wikipedia?

2009-06-27 Thread Eddie Tejeda
I've always assumed it's because websites are locations... not things. You don't say go to the google or go to the wikipedia for the same reason you do not say go to the new york or go to the london -- Eddie A. Tejeda On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 8:12 AM, Ziko van Dijk

Re: [Foundation-l] Why Wikipedia and not the Wikipedia?

2009-06-27 Thread Michael Snow
Ziko van Dijk wrote: Hello, Could someone explain to me why Wikipedia is without definite article? In English you say the Britannica, so why not the Wikipedia? I am wondering that also in German Wikipedians and non-Wikipedians tend to drop the article, although we say der Brockhaus.

Re: [Foundation-l] Why Wikipedia and not the Wikipedia?

2009-06-27 Thread Unionhawk
Let's just cut to the point; it's pretty much the same reason we don't abbreviate as wiki; just thinking about somebody calling Wikipedia the Wikipedia makes my head hurt... --Unionhawk On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Michael Snow wikipe...@verizon.netwrote: Ziko van Dijk wrote: Hello,

Re: [Foundation-l] Why Wikipedia and not the Wikipedia?

2009-06-27 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/6/27 Michael Snow wikipe...@verizon.net: Ziko van Dijk wrote: Hello, Could someone explain to me why Wikipedia is without definite article? In English you say the Britannica, so why not the Wikipedia? I am wondering that also in German Wikipedians and non-Wikipedians tend to drop the

Re: [Foundation-l] Why Wikipedia and not the Wikipedia?

2009-06-27 Thread Ziko van Dijk
When I look into Duden Die Grammatik, this authoritative reference work about German grammar says that proper names (Angela, Berlin, Christmas) don't get an article: Hamburg liegt an der Elbe. But it mentions many exceptions, like for rivers who actually do get an article (such as die Elbe). An

Re: [Foundation-l] Why Wikipedia and not the Wikipedia?

2009-06-27 Thread Jim Redmond
On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 10:37, Michael Snow wikipe...@verizon.net wrote: There are some situations where you would use the definite article for singular proper nouns, such as with some geographical names, or when the name is actually a combination of common and proper nouns. I would also use

Re: [Foundation-l] Why Wikipedia and not the Wikipedia?

2009-06-27 Thread Anthony
On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.ukwrote: (Perhaps Britannica gets it because Encyclopedia is a common word - we'd feel silly with the sentence I looked it up in Encyclopedia Britannica, because I looked it up in encyclopedia would itself be wrong) I

Re: [Foundation-l] Why Wikipedia and not the Wikipedia?

2009-06-27 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/6/27 Anthony wikim...@inbox.org: On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.ukwrote: (Perhaps Britannica gets it because Encyclopedia is a common word - we'd feel silly with the sentence I looked it up in Encyclopedia Britannica, because I looked it up in

[Foundation-l] Fwd: [WikiEN-l] The edit heard round the world

2009-06-27 Thread David Gerard
Anyone able to help with this? (Durova's been doing a lot of restoration work on Commons. There has also been discussion on wikien-l about crediting restorers - there's frequently no copyright obligation to credit restorers, but doing so is (a) polite (b) more accurate sourcing (c) encourages

[Foundation-l] antisocial production

2009-06-27 Thread Eddie Tejeda
'Forget altruism. Misanthropy and egotism are the fuel of online social production. That's the conclusion suggested by a new study of the character traits of the contributors to Wikipedia. A team of Israeli research psychologists gave personality tests to 69 Wikipedians and 70 non-Wikipedians.

Re: [Foundation-l] antisocial production

2009-06-27 Thread Fred Bauder
'Forget altruism. Misanthropy and egotism are the fuel of online social production. That's the conclusion suggested by a new study of the character traits of the contributors to Wikipedia. A team of Israeli research psychologists gave personality tests to 69 Wikipedians and 70

Re: [Foundation-l] antisocial production

2009-06-27 Thread Marc Riddell
'Forget altruism. Misanthropy and egotism are the fuel of online social production. That's the conclusion suggested by a new study of the character traits of the contributors to Wikipedia. A team of Israeli research psychologists gave personality tests to 69 Wikipedians and 70

Re: [Foundation-l] antisocial production

2009-06-27 Thread Steven Walling
I concur with Phil. That thing is more press stunt than it is a conclusive scientific study. The key thing that makes me discount it is, just like in a survey of articles, Wikipedia as a community is both gargantuan and diverse. The motivation and character of the long tail of contributors who

Re: [Foundation-l] antisocial production

2009-06-27 Thread David Moran
While not exactly science, having gone to more than one Wikipedia picnic to break bread with my fellow contributors ... the conclusions seem pretty accurate to me. DM On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 6:29 PM, Steven Walling steven.wall...@gmail.comwrote: I concur with Phil. That thing is more press

Re: [Foundation-l] antisocial production

2009-06-27 Thread Marc Riddell
on 6/27/09 6:35 PM, David Moran at fordmadoxfr...@gmail.com wrote: While not exactly science, having gone to more than one Wikipedia picnic to break bread with my fellow contributors ... the conclusions seem pretty accurate to me. DM And, until that changes, the Project will grow only in

Re: [Foundation-l] antisocial production

2009-06-27 Thread Phil Nash
Marc Riddell wrote: on 6/27/09 6:35 PM, David Moran at fordmadoxfr...@gmail.com wrote: While not exactly science, having gone to more than one Wikipedia picnic to break bread with my fellow contributors ... the conclusions seem pretty accurate to me. DM And, until that changes, the

Re: [Foundation-l] antisocial production

2009-06-27 Thread Milos Rancic
On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 11:57 PM, Eddie Tejedaed...@visudo.com wrote: 'Forget altruism. Misanthropy and egotism are the fuel of online social production. That's the conclusion suggested by a new study of the character traits of the contributors to Wikipedia. A team of Israeli research