[Foundation-l] Fwd: [Internal-l] WMF board election - inspiration for candidates

2009-07-17 Thread Brianna Laugher
Hi, There are just 3 days left for community members to nominate themselves as candidates in the upcoming Board election. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Board_elections/2009/Candidates/en Stu West, who is the Board's Treasurer and has served on the board since April 2008, wrote this piece,

Re: [Foundation-l] Attribution on small interactive devices and systems

2009-07-17 Thread Harald Krichel
Peter Gervai schrieb: On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 01:32, John at Darkstarvac...@jeb.no wrote: Minimum attribution of «Terms of Use» from Wikimdia Foundations site would be http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Terms_of_Use http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/; That is 96 chars,

Re: [Foundation-l] Attribution on small interactive devices and systems

2009-07-17 Thread Chad
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 8:42 AM, Harald Krichelharald.kric...@googlemail.com wrote: Peter Gervai schrieb: On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 01:32, John at Darkstarvac...@jeb.no wrote: Minimum attribution of «Terms of Use» from Wikimdia Foundations site would be

Re: [Foundation-l] Attribution on small interactive devices and systems

2009-07-17 Thread Tris Thomas
Over at Wikinews, we've just started using a new url shortening service-enwn.net for our twitter feed. You'll need to talk to http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/User:ShakataGaNai if interested. On 17/07/2009 14:06, Chad wrote: On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 8:42 AM, Harald

Re: [Foundation-l] Attribution on small interactive devices and systems

2009-07-17 Thread David Gerard
2009/7/17 Harald Krichel harald.kric...@googlemail.com: Shouldn't we set up our own URL-aliasing service? This would also have the advantage that you could be sure that the wikimedia shortened urls only lead to wikimedia domains. I know of: http://enwp.org/ http://enwn.net/ - d.

Re: [Foundation-l] Attribution on small interactive devices and systems

2009-07-17 Thread Andrew Gray
2009/7/17 Harald Krichel harald.kric...@googlemail.com: Shouldn't we set up our own URL-aliasing service? This would also have the advantage that you could be sure that the wikimedia shortened urls only lead to wikimedia domains. eg.: http://wp.cx/3tT5u7Z redirects to

Re: [Foundation-l] Attribution on small interactive devices and systems

2009-07-17 Thread Chad
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 9:14 AM, David Gerarddger...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/7/17 Harald Krichel harald.kric...@googlemail.com: Shouldn't we set up our own URL-aliasing service? This would also have the advantage that you could be sure that the wikimedia shortened urls only lead to wikimedia

Re: [Foundation-l] Attribution on small interactive devices and systems

2009-07-17 Thread Chad
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 9:26 AM, Andrew Grayandrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk wrote: 2009/7/17 Harald Krichel harald.kric...@googlemail.com: Shouldn't we set up our own URL-aliasing service? This would also have the advantage that you could be sure that the wikimedia shortened urls only lead to

Re: [Foundation-l] CentralNotice and extending the Board Nomination period

2009-07-17 Thread Philippe Beaudette
Robert, Thank you for your concern. I'll take this to the Board elections committee. Philippe Philippe Beaudette Facilitator, Strategic Plan Wikimedia Foundation pbeaude...@wikimedia.org Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the

Re: [Foundation-l] Attribution on small interactive devices and systems

2009-07-17 Thread Jon Davis
I control enwn.net. We just set it up primarily for our Twitter feed. That being said, I've already had requests to make it available for external users - so that's in progress, and I can expand it to allow all WMF sites (not just wn). Otherwise it does support short redirects for CurID.

Re: [Foundation-l] Attribution on small interactive devices and systems

2009-07-17 Thread Philippe Beaudette
On Jul 17, 2009, at 8:25 AM, Chad wrote: Does anyone know the guy who owns enwp.org? That being said, enwp.org/?oldid=1234 does work :) -Chad (Asked whois.pir.org:43 about enwp.org) Domain ID: D148943548-LROR Domain Name: ENWP.ORG Created On: 23-Aug-2007 14: 33: 18 UTC Last

Re: [Foundation-l] Attribution on small interactive devices and systems

2009-07-17 Thread Chad
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Philippe Beaudettepbeaude...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Jul 17, 2009, at 8:25 AM, Chad wrote: Does anyone know the guy who owns enwp.org? That being said, enwp.org/?oldid=1234 does work :) -Chad (Asked whois.pir.org:43 about enwp.org)  Domain ID:

Re: [Foundation-l] Attribution on small interactive devices and systems

2009-07-17 Thread John at Darkstar
This is a wikipedian from Norway. John Erling Blad Wikimedia Norway Chad wrote: On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Philippe Beaudettepbeaude...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Jul 17, 2009, at 8:25 AM, Chad wrote: Does anyone know the guy who owns enwp.org? That being said, enwp.org/?oldid=1234

[Foundation-l] National Portrait Gallery

2009-07-17 Thread John at Darkstar
If we forget about politics and who-did-what, what is the common grounds between us and them? To me it seems like they want us to use their material, but that they are scared to let go of a possible income. This seems fairly similar to the Galleri NOR -case. Would it be possible for us to define

Re: [Foundation-l] National Portrait Gallery

2009-07-17 Thread David Gerard
2009/7/17 John at Darkstar vac...@jeb.no: If we forget about politics and who-did-what, what is the common grounds between us and them? To me it seems like they want us to use their material, but that they are scared to let go of a possible income. This seems fairly similar to the Galleri NOR

Re: [Foundation-l] National Portrait Gallery

2009-07-17 Thread geni
2009/7/17 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com: So: what would everyone here like to see in a compromise, that addresses the concerns of all sides? What makes the NPG happier and more secure, and will fly with WMF and with the Wikimedia community? Nothing. Wikimedia are not the only group that knows

Re: [Foundation-l] National Portrait Gallery

2009-07-17 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 5:26 PM, John at Darkstarvac...@jeb.no wrote: If we forget about politics and who-did-what, what is the common grounds between us and them? To me it seems like they want us to use their material, but that they are scared to let go of a possible income. This seems fairly

Re: [Foundation-l] National Portrait Gallery

2009-07-17 Thread Yann Forget
geni wrote: 2009/7/17 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com: So: what would everyone here like to see in a compromise, that addresses the concerns of all sides? What makes the NPG happier and more secure, and will fly with WMF and with the Wikimedia community? Nothing. Wikimedia are not the only

Re: [Foundation-l] National Portrait Gallery

2009-07-17 Thread geni
2009/7/17 Yann Forget y...@forget-me.net: geni wrote: 2009/7/17 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com: So: what would everyone here like to see in a compromise, that addresses the concerns of all sides? What makes the NPG happier and more secure, and will fly with WMF and with the Wikimedia

[Foundation-l] Bridgeman v. Corel

2009-07-17 Thread Klaus Graf
I do not think that WMF should betray the Public Domain. The largest possible resolution is good enough for scholars and people who wish to explore the heritage items. Please note that Wikimedia Commons is not an illustration appendix for Wikipedia but an multimedia repository. The UK mainstream

Re: [Foundation-l] National Portrait Gallery

2009-07-17 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/7/17 geni geni...@gmail.com: 2009/7/17 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com: So: what would everyone here like to see in a compromise, that addresses the concerns of all sides? What makes the NPG happier and more secure, and will fly with WMF and with the Wikimedia community? Nothing.

Re: [Foundation-l] National Portrait Gallery

2009-07-17 Thread David Gerard
2009/7/17 geni geni...@gmail.com: Not really. Remember there are a bunch of other collections. Many will be looking to use the NPG's business model. National maritime museum, Imperial war museum, British library, Various national archives. Can't afford to buy them all off. It's worth noting

Re: [Foundation-l] National Portrait Gallery

2009-07-17 Thread geni
2009/7/17 Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com: 2009/7/17 geni geni...@gmail.com: 2009/7/17 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com: So: what would everyone here like to see in a compromise, that addresses the concerns of all sides? What makes the NPG happier and more secure, and will fly with WMF

Re: [Foundation-l] National Portrait Gallery

2009-07-17 Thread George Herbert
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Thomas Daltonthomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/7/17 geni geni...@gmail.com: 2009/7/17 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com: So: what would everyone here like to see in a compromise, that addresses the concerns of all sides? What makes the NPG happier and more

Re: [Foundation-l] National Portrait Gallery

2009-07-17 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 6:29 PM, David Gerarddger...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/7/17 Gregory Maxwell gmaxw...@gmail.com: (*) Would not make the Wikimedia Foundation or its community of user appear to endorse or support the assertion of copyright on exacting reproductions of clearly public domain

Re: [Foundation-l] National Portrait Gallery

2009-07-17 Thread John at Darkstar
Sorry, I don't follow you on this one. If the existing business model don't work and it should be changed, then work with them to change it and make the alternate options viable. John David Gerard wrote: 2009/7/17 geni geni...@gmail.com: Not really. Remember there are a bunch of other

Re: [Foundation-l] National Portrait Gallery

2009-07-17 Thread geni
2009/7/18 John at Darkstar vac...@jeb.no: Sorry, I don't follow you on this one. If the existing business model don't work and it should be changed, then work with them to change it and make the alternate options viable. John We do not have the capacity to raise sufficient funds to make it a

Re: [Foundation-l] National Portrait Gallery

2009-07-17 Thread Lars Aronsson
David Gerard wrote: (The real problem, IMO, is funding - that governments tell galleries they have to make money from exploiting the works in their possession. Ah, but do governments really say this? I think it's museum people who want to play business because business is glamorous and

Re: [Foundation-l] National Portrait Gallery

2009-07-17 Thread David Gerard
2009/7/18 John at Darkstar vac...@jeb.no: Sorry, I don't follow you on this one. If the existing business model don't work and it should be changed, then work with them to change it and make the alternate options viable. That's what I mean - this issue goes way beyond NPG into how arts

Re: [Foundation-l] National Portrait Gallery

2009-07-17 Thread David Gerard
2009/7/18 Lars Aronsson l...@aronsson.se: Ah, but do governments really say this?  I think it's museum people who want to play business because business is glamorous and state-owned administration is dull and grey. I don't think governments originally came up with this idea. I have been

Re: [Foundation-l] foundation-l Digest, Vol 64, Issue 51

2009-07-17 Thread Durova
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Re: [Foundation-l] foundation-l Digest, Vol 64, Issue 51

2009-07-17 Thread geni
2009/7/18 Durova nadezhda.dur...@gmail.com: Put me in touch with instructors at art schools and I'll incorporate restoration into their curriculum. You'll be surprised how scaleable this is, particularly if we work out exhibition opportunities. -Durova Restoration isn't the problem for the

[Foundation-l] Rest in Peace, Walter Cronkite

2009-07-17 Thread Chad
All, For those of you who have not read the news yet, Walter Cronkite, icon of the CBS Evening News, has passed away. We are the continuation of the media industry that he helped define in many ways. My thoughts are with his family. -Chad ___

Re: [Foundation-l] Rest in Peace, Walter Cronkite

2009-07-17 Thread Marc Riddell
on 7/17/09 8:39 PM, Chad at innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote: All, For those of you who have not read the news yet, Walter Cronkite, icon of the CBS Evening News, has passed away. We are the continuation of the media industry that he helped define in many ways. My thoughts are with his