Re: [Foundation-l] National Portrait Gallery

2009-07-18 Thread Lars Aronsson
David Gerard wrote: I have been told this by Wikimedians who used to work in and with such institutions. Governments told them to be more businesslike, this attracted the people you describe. If there was a document originating from elected politicians, telling public *schools* to be more

Re: [Foundation-l] National Portrait Gallery

2009-07-18 Thread Henning Schlottmann
David Gerard wrote: That's what I mean - this issue goes way beyond NPG into how arts institutions are funded and sustained, which is why the NPG or people therein may believe they're really fighting for their lives and we threaten that. And if the NPG doesn't think that, other galleries may

[Foundation-l] Ombudsman commission

2009-07-18 Thread Peter Jacobi
On dewiki there is a discussion whether the Ombudsman commission does fulfill its mission. http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Diskussion:Checkuser/Anfragen#Ombudskommission Some months ago there was a checkuser action which was questioned by some users and the Ombudsman commission was asked

Re: [Foundation-l] National Portrait Gallery

2009-07-18 Thread Yann Forget
geni wrote: 2009/7/18 John at Darkstar vac...@jeb.no: Sorry, I don't follow you on this one. If the existing business model don't work and it should be changed, then work with them to change it and make the alternate options viable. John We do not have the capacity to raise sufficient

Re: [Foundation-l] National Portrait Gallery

2009-07-18 Thread David Gerard
2009/7/18 Yann Forget y...@forget-me.net: geni wrote: 2009/7/18 John at Darkstar vac...@jeb.no: Sorry, I don't follow you on this one. If the existing business model don't work and it should be changed, then work with them to change it and make the alternate options viable. We do not have

Re: [Foundation-l] National Portrait Gallery

2009-07-18 Thread geni
2009/7/18 Yann Forget y...@forget-me.net: geni wrote: 2009/7/18 John at Darkstar vac...@jeb.no: Sorry, I don't follow you on this one. If the existing business model don't work and it should be changed, then work with them to change it and make the alternate options viable. John We do not

Re: [Foundation-l] National Portrait Gallery

2009-07-18 Thread Yann Forget
geni wrote: 2009/7/18 Durova nadezhda.dur...@gmail.com: Put me in touch with instructors at art schools and I'll incorporate restoration into their curriculum. You'll be surprised how scaleable this is, particularly if we work out exhibition opportunities. -Durova Restoration isn't the

Re: [Foundation-l] National Portrait Gallery

2009-07-18 Thread geni
2009/7/18 Yann Forget y...@forget-me.net: geni wrote: 2009/7/18 Durova nadezhda.dur...@gmail.com: Put me in touch with instructors at art schools and I'll incorporate restoration into their curriculum. You'll be surprised how scaleable this is, particularly if we work out exhibition

[Foundation-l] New Larry Sanger project: WatchKnow

2009-07-18 Thread David Gerard
http://www.watchknow.org/ CC-by-sa educational videos for school kids. Currently building up a head of steam before its official big splash launch: http://blog.citizendium.org/2009/07/17/garrison-keillor-notices-my-birthday/ - d. ___ foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] foundation-l Digest, Vol 64, Issue 51

2009-07-18 Thread Durova
2009/7/18 Durova nadezhda.dur...@gmail.com: Put me in touch with instructors at art schools and I'll incorporate restoration into their curriculum. You'll be surprised how scaleable this is, particularly if we work out exhibition opportunities. -Durova Restoration isn't the problem for the

Re: [Foundation-l] National Portrait Gallery

2009-07-18 Thread Sage Ross
On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 10:19 AM, genigeni...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/7/18 Yann Forget y...@forget-me.net: In the case of the NPG, it is quite clear that the cost of the digitalization is small compared with the potential benefit. There are people and organisations willing to pay to have a copy

Re: [Foundation-l] National Portrait Gallery

2009-07-18 Thread Yann Forget
geni wrote: 2009/7/18 Yann Forget y...@forget-me.net: In the case of the NPG, it is quite clear that the cost of the digitalization is small compared with the potential benefit. There are people and organisations willing to pay to have a copy of these famous portraits. The issue is how to

Re: [Foundation-l] National Portrait Gallery

2009-07-18 Thread David Goodman
The problem is in sustaining the less used part of the collection, which from an archival standpoint and also ultimate cultural value is equally important. Normally, any such institution would expect to use the profits from the ones that sell most to support the others--[[The long tail]]. This

Re: [Foundation-l] National Portrait Gallery

2009-07-18 Thread John at Darkstar
Forget direct funding, its not practical. The interesting thing is, we do have sales organization that is very important for GLAM-institutions, and it is probably so interesting that a conflict with us is simply to damaging. How do we turn this around to make it even more interesting for them?

Re: [Foundation-l] Attribution on small interactive devices and systems

2009-07-18 Thread Andrew Turvey
Seems like a very useful service. Would the Foundation be interesting in taking ownership of this URL? If so, would Blad be willing to give/sell it to them? If so, could it be incorporated into a sidebar link similar to permanent link? - John at Darkstar vac...@jeb.no wrote: From: John

Re: [Foundation-l] Attribution on small interactive devices and systems

2009-07-18 Thread Andrew Turvey
Sorry I misunderstood! Great to hear WM-NO is following up. - John at Darkstar vac...@jeb.no wrote: From: John at Darkstar vac...@jeb.no To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Sunday, 19 July, 2009 00:26:28 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland,

Re: [Foundation-l] Attribution on small interactive devices and systems

2009-07-18 Thread John at Darkstar
The domain is not mine, nor does it belong to Wikimedia Norway, it is another wikipedian from Norway who owns the domain. Wikimedia Norway has been in contact with him about the domain and the future use of the service, and another wikipedian has also made inquiries. John Erling Blad Wikimedia

Re: [Foundation-l] foundation-l Digest, Vol 64, Issue 51

2009-07-18 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
Digitizing isn't really that hard. You take a scanner, upload an image, label it, repeat. From: Durova nadezhda.dur...@gmail.com To: foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 9:28:28 AM Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] foundation-l Digest, Vol

Re: [Foundation-l] foundation-l Digest, Vol 64, Issue 51

2009-07-18 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I have had the pleasure of getting a tour at the Bibliotheka Alexandrina. It was impressive and it certainly is not that simple. Certainly not when you want to have a high quality high volume protocol. Thanks, GerardM 2009/7/19 Geoffrey Plourde geo.p...@yahoo.com Digitizing isn't

[Foundation-l] Fwd: linux.conf.au Call for Papers are now open

2009-07-18 Thread Brianna Laugher
Hi all, I would not normally forward an open source conference CFP to this list, but I think this case has particular merit. The linux.conf.au 2010 Call for Papers closes this Friday. LCA is a free software technical conference, but one of the topics they are targeting this year is Free Software