Re: [Foundation-l] Interesting legal action

2011-05-21 Thread Sarah
On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 20:19, Wjhonson wjhon...@aol.com wrote:  It is not up to us to decide that something is private.  If it's been published, then it is public. If it's been published in a reliable source, than it's useable in our project. But not everything that's usable has to be used.

Re: [Foundation-l] Interesting legal action

2011-05-21 Thread Thomas Morton
Our BLP policy is pretty solid, and the editors that enforce it are pretty good at keeping out the crap :) We can always improve it, of course. And there are never enough BLP editors. (There are probably about 5 or 6 that specialise heavily in such content). Most of the outstanding issues are

Re: [Foundation-l] Interesting legal action

2011-05-21 Thread Marco Chiesa
On 5/20/11, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote: Please mail User:Oversight with any such instance you are aware of. We do suppress any mention of a superinjunction, as the assertion that there is embarrassing personal information sufficient to support issuance of a superinjunction is

Re: [Foundation-l] Interesting legal action

2011-05-21 Thread David Gerard
On 21 May 2011 14:39, Marco Chiesa chiesa.ma...@gmail.com wrote: Is there any project which allows usernames such as Administrator, Bureaucrat, Oversight or Steward? Isn't that confused and probably not allowed? Or which project allows a user name for more than one person? en:wp has

Re: [Foundation-l] Interesting legal action

2011-05-21 Thread MZMcBride
Marco Chiesa wrote: Is there any project which allows usernames such as Administrator, Bureaucrat, Oversight or Steward? Isn't that confused and probably not allowed? Or which project allows a user name for more than one person? http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Title_blacklist prohibits those

Re: [Foundation-l] Interesting legal action

2011-05-21 Thread MZMcBride
Sarah wrote: I'm increasingly wondering whether we should be hosting any BLPs, because these are often difficult decisions to make -- at which point there is legitimate public interest in a person's private life -- and they can't be reached thoughtfully in an open-editing environment. I think

Re: [Foundation-l] Interesting legal action

2011-05-21 Thread Sarah
On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 14:33, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Sarah wrote: I'm increasingly wondering whether we should be hosting any BLPs, because these are often difficult decisions to make -- at which point there is legitimate public interest in a person's private life -- and they

Re: [Foundation-l] Interesting legal action

2011-05-21 Thread MZMcBride
Sarah wrote: On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 14:33, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: I think anyone who has been in the BLP trenches has had the same thought. The reality is that an encyclopedia without a Barack Obama article or a Nelson Mandela article really isn't a general reference

Re: [Foundation-l] Interesting legal action

2011-05-21 Thread Sarah
On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 15:14, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Sarah wrote: On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 14:33, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: I think anyone who has been in the BLP trenches has had the same thought. The reality is that an encyclopedia without a Barack Obama article or a

Re: [Foundation-l] Interesting legal action

2011-05-21 Thread geni
On 21 May 2011 22:14, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: That sounds vaguely similar to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:BLP_problem#Dead_tree_standard. Let me know if you start a Requests for comment/discussion about this. I'd be interested, as would a number of other list

Re: [Foundation-l] Interesting legal action

2011-05-21 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
MZMcBride, 21/05/2011 22:25: Marco Chiesa wrote: Is there any project which allows usernames such as Administrator, Bureaucrat, Oversight or Steward? Isn't that confused and probably not allowed? Or which project allows a user name for more than one person?

Re: [Foundation-l] Interesting legal action

2011-05-21 Thread Risker
On 21 May 2011 17:35, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com wrote: MZMcBride, 21/05/2011 22:25: Marco Chiesa wrote: Is there any project which allows usernames such as Administrator, Bureaucrat, Oversight or Steward? Isn't that confused and probably not allowed? Or which project allows

Re: [Foundation-l] Interesting legal action

2011-05-21 Thread Sarah
On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 16:01, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: As to the comments from MZMcBride and Sarah, I would like to see a significantly higher minimal level of notability for BLPs.  In the past few years of working with the Arbitration Committee, I have seen literally thousands of

Re: [Foundation-l] Interesting legal action

2011-05-21 Thread Philippe Beaudette
On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Sarah slimvir...@gmail.com wrote: For those who deal with the BLP queue on OTRS, how serious is the problem of BLP attack pages, whether rising to the level of defamation or not? I know the problem exists -- anyone who edits can see it -- but I'd be

Re: [Foundation-l] Interesting legal action

2011-05-21 Thread Philippe Beaudette
On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Sarah slimvir...@gmail.com wrote: For those who deal with the BLP queue on OTRS, how serious is the problem of BLP attack pages, whether rising to the level of defamation or not? I know the problem exists -- anyone who edits can see it -- but I'd be

[Foundation-l] Stalking on Wikipedia

2011-05-21 Thread Dror Kamir
Hello, I found an email today from someone who still cares to keep me updated about what happens on the English Wikipedia's corridors. Since my name is mentioned in the discussion, he thought I'd be interested in this. There is a user on the English language Wikipedia who calls himself

Re: [Foundation-l] Stalking on Wikipedia

2011-05-21 Thread George Herbert
On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 9:57 PM, Dror Kamir dqa...@bezeqint.net wrote: Hello, I found an email today from someone who still cares to keep me updated about what happens on the English Wikipedia's corridors. Since my name is mentioned in the discussion, he thought I'd be interested in this.

Re: [Foundation-l] Stalking on Wikipedia

2011-05-21 Thread Dror Kamir
I am not going to act as if this is a trial against me. If this is a trial, then I have every right to know who accuses me and on what ground. Currently what we have here is a WP user who says he has private information about me and about other users, allegedly proving we are the same person